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Anyone know where I can find Anders full tree?

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Icy Magebane wrote...

@ Haus of Dye - I'm counting 4 hearts in that post. You like it that much? Frankly, I was disappointed by Blood Magic... :/


I can't fully explain why, I just do.  I just hope the animations for it are better, but I'm happy so far.

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Haus of Dye wrote...

Icy Magebane wrote...

@ Haus of Dye - I'm counting 4 hearts in that post. You like it that much? Frankly, I was disappointed by Blood Magic... :/


I can't fully explain why, I just do.  I just hope the animations for it are better, but I'm happy so far.

Fair enough.  I'll probably tinker with my build some more before release... I don't exactly want to give up on Blood Magic, so we'll see.

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I wonder if Hemmorage does FF

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I kept it to 20 points since I wanted to think in terms of what I'll have for most of the latter part of the game, not just the final conflict.

I dunno--is he too much of a one-trick pony? I'm sorry not have more Disorient exploits, but I'm playing on nightmare, so I'm a little afraid of Walking Bomb.


1. Mind Blast.................Arcane
2. Winter's Grasp............Elemental
3. Chain Lightning...........Primal
4. Spirit Bolt .................Spirit
5. Cone of Cold..............Elemental
6. Chain Reaction ...........Primal ........Stagger
7. Winter's Blast.............Elemental.....Brittle
8. Spirit Strike................Spirit..............Disorient
9. Deep Freeze.............Elemental.....Brittle
10. Crushing Prison........Arcane
11. Stunning Blast.........Arcane
12. Paralyzing Prison......Arcane...........Stagger
13. Fist of the Maker......Force
14. Telekinetic Burst.......Force
15. Pull of the Abyss......Force
16. Maker's Fury...........Force
17. Maker's Hammer........Force.............Stagger
18. Edge of the Abyss.....Force
19. Gravitic Ring............Force
20. Telekinetic Blast........Force

Modifié par distinguetraces, 06 mars 2011 - 09:36 .


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godlike13 wrote...

I wonder if Hemmorage does FF


Don't think so and it doesn't look like the force mage abilities do either.

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distinguetraces wrote...

I dunno--is he too much of a one-trick pony? I'm sorry not have more Disorient exploits, but I'm playing on nightmare, so I'm a little afraid of Walking Bomb

1. Mind Blast Arcane
2. Winter's Grasp Elemental
3. Chain Lightning Primal
4. Spirit Bolt Spirit
5. Cone of Cold Elemental
6. Chain Reaction Primal Stagger
7. Winter's Blast Elemental Brittle
8. Spirit Strike Spirit Disorient
9. Deep Freeze Elemental Brittle
10. Crushing Prison Arcane
11. Stunning Blast Arcane
12. Paralyzing Prison Arcane Stagger
13. Fist of the Maker Force
14. Telekinetic Burst Force
15. Pull of the Abyss Force
16. Maker's Fury Force
17. Maker's Hammer Force Stagger
18. Edge of the Abyss Force
19. Gravitic Ring Force
20. Dispel Magic Arcane


This is a pretty good build... as long as you're careful with Fist of the Maker.  Also, keep in mind that Pull only lasts for 5 seconds (pointing that out just in case you missed it).  Also, I would learn Heal, but I might just be paranoid, so feel free to ignore that.  Anyway, I think it should work out nicely!

Wait... are allies immune to your knockdown attacks in Nightmare?  Or is it based on their fortitude?

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Morroian wrote...

godlike13 wrote...

I wonder if Hemmorage does FF


Don't think so and it doesn't look like the force mage abilities do either.

If this is true, then I need to reconsider the last third of my build...

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Icy Magebane wrote...

Morroian wrote...

godlike13 wrote...

I wonder if Hemmorage does FF


Don't think so and it doesn't look like the force mage abilities do either.


If this is true, then I need to reconsider the last third of my build...


Actually I think I'm probably wrong about force mage. The wording is confusing but its similar to the wording used for normal abilities with FF so there's no reason that force mage  would not be FF. I'd still be confident that Haemmorage is not FF though. 

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Icy Magebane wrote...

distinguetraces wrote...

I dunno--is he too much of a one-trick pony?


This is a pretty good build... as long as you're careful with Fist of the Maker.  Also, keep in mind that Pull only lasts for 5 seconds (pointing that out just in case you missed it).  Also, I would learn Heal, but I might just be paranoid, so feel free to ignore that.  Anyway, I think it should work out nicely!


Thanks. I'm always going to have a second mage with me in this party, so I'll let them handle the healing as needed (depending on what healing spells it turns out Merrill can learn).

Merrill is going to go full Primal plus her unique tree, and Anders is going to go full Elemental plus his unique tree. My PC splits the difference with Lightning and Ice.

Wait... are allies immune to your knockdown attacks in Nightmare?  Or is it based on their fortitude?


I rather think they are not immune. Other than my tank, though, I'm going to be running with my second mage and an archer, so they should be able to stay out of the way.

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Morroian wrote...

godlike13 wrote...

I wonder if Hemmorage does FF


Don't think so and it doesn't look like the force mage abilities do either.


Really? Are you getting that from the wording of the power descriptions, or from something a dev has said? The descriptions do say "enemies" but the descriptions of some elemental spells that definitely do FF damage only talk about damaging "opponents" and "foes"

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Is there some clear denotation in the spell/talent descriptions that tells whether they do friendly fire or not, or are we just going to have to learn all of them by trial and error and/or the wiki?

Same with the "offensive spell" categorization for Spirit Healer and Anders' spec.

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Filament wrote...

Is there some clear denotation in the spell/talent descriptions that tells whether they do friendly fire or not, or are we just going to have to learn all of them by trial and error and/or the wiki?

Same with the "offensive spell" categorization for Spirit Healer and Anders' spec.


Offensive spells are spells that do direct damage, including AoEs like firestorm.

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How many specializations can you have in DA2? Is it one or two?

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Oh, so which spells do damage in a "very indirect" way that would still be usable during healing mode? ("If it doesn't do damage, or does so in a very indirect way (Tempest/Firestorm is not indirect), then you can still use it.")

PureSlayer wrote...

How many specializations can you have in DA2? Is it one or two?


You still get spec points at 7 and 14, as before.

Modifié par Filament, 06 mars 2011 - 09:59 .


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Great to have information on these finally. Thanks Naitaka. :) Spirit healer turned out more powerful than I expected, but I still rather take blood mage instead. Blood slave is a disappointment. I was hoping its upgrade would extend charm duration or allow us to control higher ranked enemies. As is, it seems more like a poor woman's walking bomb. Bloodlust seems handy as ever, though...

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Force Mage: Too much exposure to Eezo. :/

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I think a Rogue Duelist Tank makes very good sense (especially with a Heroic Aura/Arcane Wall mage and investing in constitution on the rogue), here's my analysis in the tanking thread: http://social.biowar...18363/9#6371831

As I said there, the big question I have is whether Isabella can fit in that role as well with the Swashbuckler tree. I'd really love to see the full Isabella and Anders trees... please? :)

Modifié par Utoryo, 06 mars 2011 - 10:47 .


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It's funny how everyone seem to forget that spell damage is always a multiplier of basic staff damage . If you put  your point into constitution instead of willpower than you won't be able to wear mages equipment as all mage equipment will need high magic and high willpower score.

and with a terrible staff you will do terrible damage no matter what.

It's seem like you would need high magic, high willpower and high con to play a bloodmage something not possible. another broken talent tree, so far all 9 specialization looks extremly disapointing.

Modifié par JSLfromBx, 06 mars 2011 - 10:53 .


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JSLfromBx wrote...

It's funny how everyone seem to forget that spell damage is always a multiplier of basic staff damage . If you put  your point into constitution instead of willpower than you won't be able to wear mages equipment as all mage equipment will need high magic and high willpower score.

and with a terrible staff you will do terrible damage no matter what.

It's seem like you would need high magic, high willpower and high con to play a bloodmage something not possible. another broken talent tree, so far all 9 specialization looks extremly disapointing.

Um... are we looking at the same trees?  Warrior and Rogue specs look awesome.

Modifié par Icy Magebane, 06 mars 2011 - 10:55 .


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JSLfromBx wrote...

It's funny how everyone seem to forget that spell damage is always a multiplier of basic staff damage . If you put  your point into constitution instead of willpower than you won't be able to wear mages equipment as all mage equipment will need high magic and high willpower score.

OK then please give us some examples from the game.

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JSLfromBx wrote...

It's funny how everyone seem to forget that spell damage is always a multiplier of basic staff damage . If you put  your point into constitution instead of willpower than you won't be able to wear mages equipment as all mage equipment will need high magic and high willpower score.

and with a terrible staff you will do terrible damage no matter what.

It's seem like you would need high magic, high willpower and high con to play a bloodmage something not possible. another broken talent tree, so far all 9 specialization looks extremly disapointing.


i wonder where you get this from. are you certain that mages need willpower to equip armor/staves? bloodmagic seems incredibly efficien .A ratio of 1 to 3 isnt something you can ignore. not to mention it seems to be entirely self supporting with the varies self heal abilities

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bah liking the look of the blood mage tree.might have to have my first char a blood mage then make a warrior next

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JSLfromBx wrote...

It's seem like you would need high magic, high willpower and high con to play a bloodmage something not possible.


And why is that not possible?

Modifié par godlike13, 06 mars 2011 - 11:19 .


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koshindan wrote...

Force Mage: Too much exposure to Eezo. :/


Blasphemy! Theres no such thing as too much Element Zero.