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[Dangerfoot]

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

Dangerfoot wrote...

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

Do you even know what sub par means? World of Warcraft's graphics are sub par, not DA 2's.

Well to be fair, World of Warcraft is an entire open world.

Bioware games are a series of hallways with different skins over them. So I'd be pretty worried if they couldn't muster average graphics.

Don't give me that sh*t. People should not complain about graphics unless they totally su*k. Dragon Age 2 has good stylized look. People are just crying babies. Go play your broken witchers and stuff if you want realistic graphics.

Give you what? I'm simply saying that WoW is a huge game with a ton of things to do, so it's not crazy that the graphics aren't the best. Dragon Age and other Bioware games only have the illusion of being huge. Games that are smaller and more linear are a lot more capable of having great graphics.

I'm not saying Dragon Age is bad, just that games like Dragon Age are kind of counted on to have better than average graphics.

[PhrosniteAgainROFL]

Dangerfoot wrote...

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

Dangerfoot wrote...

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

Do you even know what sub par means? World of Warcraft's graphics are sub par, not DA 2's.

Well to be fair, World of Warcraft is an entire open world.

Bioware games are a series of hallways with different skins over them. So I'd be pretty worried if they couldn't muster average graphics.

Don't give me that sh*t. People should not complain about graphics unless they totally su*k. Dragon Age 2 has good stylized look. People are just crying babies. Go play your broken witchers and stuff if you want realistic graphics.

Give you what? I'm simply saying that WoW is a huge game with a ton of things to do, so it's not crazy that the graphics aren't the best. Dragon Age and other Bioware games only have the illusion of being huge. Games that are smaller and more linear are a lot more capable of having great graphics.

I'm not saying Dragon Age is bad, just that games like Dragon Age are kind of counted on to have better than average graphics.

OK. Let's wait and see if any of the reviewers says that DA2 has bad or average graphics. I bet no-one will say it because it has nice stylized look which is NOT bad or average.

Modifié par PhrosniteAgainROFL, 07 mars 2011 - 01:01 .

[Tennessee88]

Dangerfoot wrote...

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

Dangerfoot wrote...

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

Do you even know what sub par means? World of Warcraft's graphics are sub par, not DA 2's.

Well to be fair, World of Warcraft is an entire open world.

Bioware games are a series of hallways with different skins over them. So I'd be pretty worried if they couldn't muster average graphics.

Don't give me that sh*t. People should not complain about graphics unless they totally su*k. Dragon Age 2 has good stylized look. People are just crying babies. Go play your broken witchers and stuff if you want realistic graphics.

Give you what? I'm simply saying that WoW is a huge game with a ton of things to do, so it's not crazy that the graphics aren't the best. Dragon Age and other Bioware games only have the illusion of being huge. Games that are smaller and more linear are a lot more capable of having great graphics.

I'm not saying Dragon Age is bad, just that games like Dragon Age are kind of counted on to have better than average graphics.

They don't even give the illusion of being huge anymore... 

I am curious for others who don't like the "graphics." Is it the actual textures, lighting, etc? Or is it the art direction, sparse enviroments, etc?

[moilami]

Tennessee88 wrote...

Dangerfoot wrote...

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

Dangerfoot wrote...

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

Do you even know what sub par means? World of Warcraft's graphics are sub par, not DA 2's.

Well to be fair, World of Warcraft is an entire open world.

Bioware games are a series of hallways with different skins over them. So I'd be pretty worried if they couldn't muster average graphics.

Don't give me that sh*t. People should not complain about graphics unless they totally su*k. Dragon Age 2 has good stylized look. People are just crying babies. Go play your broken witchers and stuff if you want realistic graphics.

Give you what? I'm simply saying that WoW is a huge game with a ton of things to do, so it's not crazy that the graphics aren't the best. Dragon Age and other Bioware games only have the illusion of being huge. Games that are smaller and more linear are a lot more capable of having great graphics.

I'm not saying Dragon Age is bad, just that games like Dragon Age are kind of counted on to have better than average graphics.

They don't even give the illusion of being huge anymore... 

I am curious for others who don't like the "graphics." Is it the actual textures, lighting, etc? Or is it the art direction, sparse enviroments, etc?

Lol.

DA3 will happen in Warden's mom's basement in 20 year timespawn and it will be called the sims mother of all RPGs.

[Melra]

Tennessee88 wrote...

Dangerfoot wrote...

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

Dangerfoot wrote...

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

Do you even know what sub par means? World of Warcraft's graphics are sub par, not DA 2's.

Well to be fair, World of Warcraft is an entire open world.

Bioware games are a series of hallways with different skins over them. So I'd be pretty worried if they couldn't muster average graphics.

Don't give me that sh*t. People should not complain about graphics unless they totally su*k. Dragon Age 2 has good stylized look. People are just crying babies. Go play your broken witchers and stuff if you want realistic graphics.

Give you what? I'm simply saying that WoW is a huge game with a ton of things to do, so it's not crazy that the graphics aren't the best. Dragon Age and other Bioware games only have the illusion of being huge. Games that are smaller and more linear are a lot more capable of having great graphics.

I'm not saying Dragon Age is bad, just that games like Dragon Age are kind of counted on to have better than average graphics.

They don't even give the illusion of being huge anymore... 

I am curious for others who don't like the "graphics." Is it the actual textures, lighting, etc? Or is it the art direction, sparse enviroments, etc?

I had problems with the art direction before. I liked how DA:O looked and I still do, but if Devs think this way is the way to go, then I trust they know better. I don't mind it that much, but I did prefer DA:O in that regard. 

[Gvaz]

Hellosanta wrote...
Obviously you are trolling, do you know that? why bother come to show your TW2 fanaticism in DA2 forum? I like TW2 as much as DA2, but I would go to TW2 forum if you I want to squee over it. 

He said that The Witcher 2 looked bad, and he's objectively wrong on every level. Posting the image proves that.

Now, looks better than another game? That is a matter of subjective preference. I for one think it looks head over heels better, but the point is that TW2 by itself looks gorgeous.

[heretica]

Metalunatic wrote...

Wrong genre to look for great graphics.

You can't be serious... have you read the blog Chris posted? It makes me jump around like a squirrel on coffee.

blog.bioware.com/2011/03/03/the-technology-of-dragon-age-ii-%E2%80%93-part-2/

[randName]

Catt128 wrote...

Metalunatic wrote...

Wrong genre to look for great graphics.

You can't be serious... have you read the blog Chris posted? It makes me jump around like a squirrel on coffee.

blog.bioware.com/2011/03/03/the-technology-of-dragon-age-ii-%E2%80%93-part-2/

Its ok, its not close to the best there is; just look at the latest frostbite demos for BF3 as for rendering and light.

(And I don't play games like BF, COD etc, don't like them - so not a fan of the game as such).

Modifié par randName, 07 mars 2011 - 01:29 .

[Navasha]

A pre-release demo is often quite a bit different than the polished final build. I also think the artistic style here isn't going to please everyone. I personally don't like everyone having such a HUGE chin.
That said, on the PC, there will be mods out pretty quickly that will fix a lot of the small texture sizes that are becoming a common problem on cross-platform games.

[Leonick91]

Navasha wrote...

A pre-release demo is often quite a bit different than the polished final build. I also think the artistic style here isn't going to please everyone. I personally don't like everyone having such a HUGE chin.
That said, on the PC, there will be mods out pretty quickly that will fix a lot of the small texture sizes that are becoming a common problem on cross-platform games.

judging by what i saw of the CC in the latest livestream the chin and jaw doesnt have to be so huge in the final game

Yea, suspect the art syle is what most people have a problem with...
Personaly I think the game looks great, sure it's nit crysis 2 or BF3 level graphics but they are still great and far more than a require for a game so

[heretica]

randName wrote...

Catt128 wrote...

Metalunatic wrote...

Wrong genre to look for great graphics.

You can't be serious... have you read the blog Chris posted? It makes me jump around like a squirrel on coffee.

blog.bioware.com/2011/03/03/the-technology-of-dragon-age-ii-%E2%80%93-part-2/

Its ok, its not close to the best there is; just look at the latest frostbite demos for BF3 as for rendering and light.

(And I don't play games like BF, COD etc, don't like them - so not a fan of the game as such).

I watched a couple of videos, It looks impressive. But considering graphics in Dragon Age: Origins, this is a huge improvement, isn't it? Just look at the models, I spent five minutes looking at Hawke's arm. HANDS WITH NAILS AND PHALANXES! This is madness!

The only thing that seems a bit off is the color palette for hairstyles. That's very Origin-ish.

[Goldrock]

They are all rpgs and the last i check the focus on a rpg is character growth and epic storylines graphics more of a eye candy bonus added to the mix to add extra immersion.

[Dangerfoot]

Catt128 wrote...

The only thing that seems a bit off is the color palette for hairstyles. That's very Origin-ish.

So there's still that shade of red that no one has ever had naturally?

[Hellosanta]

So here is the irony; people say they want DA2 to have average level of graphic or better instead of dated one, yet they are comparing DA2 with games that apparently has high-end graphics. woohoooo

[JeanLuc761]

Yes folks, Dragon Age 2 is not as technically advanced as it could be: I think we all understand that. However, even though the environment in the demo was a bit on the bland side, I'm hard-pressed to complain about these:






It may not be as advanced as Mass Effect 2 or the like, but DA2 looks fine to me.

[heretica]

DAT LIGHTING.

[mmu1]

Tennessee88 wrote...

I am curious for others who don't like the "graphics." Is it the actual textures, lighting, etc? Or is it the art direction, sparse enviroments, etc?

I care first and foremost about the gameplay and the story - if those are good, I don't get too worked up about the graphics.

What I do get annoyed with are people who are so desperate that they insist that everything about it has to be the best ever, no matter what the reality is, and that every change from DAO (which they used to insist was the bestest ever, in all ways, in the last iteration of this war) is actually perfect and just what they wanted...

So as the fabric of reality weakens, I get sucked in.

All that being said - I don't mind the technical quality of the DA2 graphics so much, I just find the art direction uninspired and bland. Like I said before, when I look at the DA games I feel like the designers flipped through a book called "generic fantasy RPG design" and based things off of that. 

[FellowerOfOdin]

LOLOLOL YOU STUPID ITS ABOUT STORY NOT GRAPHICS LOLOLOLOL

Here you go, short summary of 11 pages.

[moilami]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Yes folks, Dragon Age 2 is not as technically advanced as it could be: I think we all understand that. However, even though the environment in the demo was a bit on the bland side, I'm hard-pressed to complain about these:



It may not be as advanced as Mass Effect 2 or the like, but DA2 looks fine to me.

Lol that one looks butt-ugly.

[didymos1120]

Navasha wrote...

That said, on the PC, there will be mods out pretty quickly that will fix a lot of the small texture sizes that are becoming a common problem on cross-platform games.

Yeah and the first one will be the high-res PC texture pack from Bioware itself that's going to be available, well, tomorrow.

[JeanLuc761]

moilami wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Yes folks, Dragon Age 2 is not as technically advanced as it could be: I think we all understand that. However, even though the environment in the demo was a bit on the bland side, I'm hard-pressed to complain about these:
-snip-


It may not be as advanced as Mass Effect 2 or the like, but DA2 looks fine to me.

Lol that one looks butt-ugly.

How so?  It has vibrant colors, decent textures and some nice lighting effects. 

[moilami]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

moilami wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Yes folks, Dragon Age 2 is not as technically advanced as it could be: I think we all understand that. However, even though the environment in the demo was a bit on the bland side, I'm hard-pressed to complain about these:
-snip-


It may not be as advanced as Mass Effect 2 or the like, but DA2 looks fine to me.

Lol that one looks butt-ugly.

How so?  It has vibrant colors, decent textures and some nice lighting effects. 

Those big cliffs whatevers on the ground look very cheap PS graphics. But maybe they have interesting story BW want to tell

[didymos1120]

moilami wrote...
Those big cliffs whatevers on the ground look very cheap PS graphics.

Do you actually know what "cheap PS graphics" look like? Not that, I can assure you.

[Gvaz]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Yes folks, Dragon Age 2 is not as technically advanced as it could be: I think we all understand that. However, even though the environment in the demo was a bit on the bland side, I'm hard-pressed to complain about these:






It may not be as advanced as Mass Effect 2 or the like, but DA2 looks fine to me.

Maybe to you, but there for a few things to complain about actually from a technical standpoint (since that blog brags so much about it)

will edit post with findings:
- Shadows have improper contrast
- Light sources eject from source, and aren't affected by geometry around it (see fireplace)
- light sources don't create shadows (candles, fireplace, etc) shadows other than the player are static.
- somewhat blurry textures

Modifié par GvazElite, 07 mars 2011 - 05:53 .