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[clopin]

You think this game looks bad? Go back and play DA:O.

[Anathemic]

Actua wrote...

I'm sure if I looked in-depth at the character models or the ground textures, I may notice a few flaws. But I'm finding myself more swept away by the art direction than insulted by 'a lack of technical prowess.'

Anathemic wrote...

Witcher 2, Skyrim would like to have a word with you, hell let's throw in Diablo 3

I disagree with you on the Skyrim point. I, personally, think Dragon Age II is a far better looking game. Not saying that Skyrim is ugly. I just don't think it's nearly as gorgeous as DAII.

Skyrim is a bit iffy, but still looks good

[Fatex3]

Almost every review I have seen states that the game is sub-par in the graphics department. That does not mean it is not a good game. I do not understand defending the graphics, when they are honestly last gen, just focus on the story.

[Anathemic]

clopin wrote...

You think this game looks bad? Go back and play DA:O.

I dunno, I personally like this ogre from DA:O than what DA2 shows

[Metalunatic]

Fatex3 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

DAII looks better than what I've seen of Diablo III and Witcher 2, and Skyrim is a different genre.

I love Bioware games also, but you sir, are blind or trying to brown-nose. Also Skyrim is a RPG, just like DA][

Skyrim is an open-world RPG while DAII is a tactical RPG. (I think) The point is, they are a different subgenre. For example, you can focus more on the graphics in a open-world game, whereas in a tactial RPG they focus more on the story and characters.

[mesmerizedish]

Fatex3 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

DAII looks better than what I've seen of Diablo III and Witcher 2, and Skyrim is a different genre.

I love Bioware games also, but you sir, are blind or trying to brown-nose. Also Skyrim is a RPG, just like DA][

I'm not a sir, and I'm not blind. I think DAII looks better. Feel free to disagree, but don't try to tell me that my opinion is wrong.

Skyrim is a different genre. Tactical RPGs are different than sandbox RPGs. Oblivion's graphics were more detailed than Origins', even though it was released over three years earlier. They different foci.

[EclipticOlive54]

Junri wrote...

Fatex3 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

DAII looks better than what I've seen of Diablo III and Witcher 2, and Skyrim is a different genre.

I love Bioware games also, but you sir, are blind or trying to brown-nose. Also Skyrim is a RPG, just like DA][

Think he meant sub-genre. DA2 is a tacitcal RPG, while Diablo 3 and Witcher 2 are action RPGs while Skyrim is a Open-world sandbox rpg.

This. Anyway,I pretty much like all those games equally, as since I have pre ordered a few of the ones you listed. *Love's RPGS*

Modifié par EclipticOlive54, 06 mars 2011 - 02:32 .

[clopin]

Anathemic wrote...

clopin wrote...

You think this game looks bad? Go back and play DA:O.

I dunno, I personally like this ogre from DA:O than what DA2 shows

Everytome I had a conversation with someone, I felt like I was playing Halo 2 :/

[Fishy]

Now we need someone to post a crysis 2 screenshot running on a quad GTX 580 overclocked to the gill .. Running on the best available CPU on the market overclocked to the gill and water cooled to the max.

and compare it to dragon age 2 on the ps3 using a cheap camera in SD resolution..

[Anathemic]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Fatex3 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

DAII looks better than what I've seen of Diablo III and Witcher 2, and Skyrim is a different genre.

I love Bioware games also, but you sir, are blind or trying to brown-nose. Also Skyrim is a RPG, just like DA][

I'm not a sir, and I'm not blind. I think DAII looks better. Feel free to disagree, but don't try to tell me that my opinion is wrong.

Skyrim is a different genre. Tactical RPGs are different than sandbox RPGs. Oblivion's graphics were more detailed than Origins', even though it was released over three years earlier. They different foci.

RPGs all fall under the same genre. Your trying to argue something like  RTS != RPG, but it's not like that. Tactical RPGs, Sandbox RPGs, Action RPGs, they are all RPGs.

Modifié par Anathemic, 06 mars 2011 - 02:35 .

[Mellakim]

Metalunatic wrote...

Fatex3 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

DAII looks better than what I've seen of Diablo III and Witcher 2, and Skyrim is a different genre.

I love Bioware games also, but you sir, are blind or trying to brown-nose. Also Skyrim is a RPG, just like DA][

Skyrim is an open-world RPG while DAII is a tactical RPG. (I think) The point is, they are a different subgenre. For example, you can focus more on the graphics in a open-world game, whereas in a tactial RPG they focus more on the story and characters.

To be honest mate, i would think it would be the other way around 

[Metalunatic]

Suprez30 wrote...

Now we need someone to post a crysis 2 screenshot running on a quad GTX 580 overclocked to the gill .. Running on the best available CPU on the market overclocked to the gill and water cooled to the max.

and compare it to dragon age 2 on the ps3 using a cheap camera in SD resolution..

No overclocking, watercooling or hardware that good is needed to run the demo on max at least.

[packardbell]

bla bla bla graphics bla bla bla

[Fatex3]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I'm not a sir, and I'm not blind. I think DAII looks better. Feel free to disagree, but don't try to tell me that my opinion is wrong.

Ok I'll take your word for it. You've got to be the only person I know that thinks a lower poly-count, low-rez textures and small maps are better graphics. By that scale your best graphic game of all time... Pong?

Modifié par Fatex3, 06 mars 2011 - 02:35 .

[XX-Pyro]

Mellakim wrote...

Metalunatic wrote...

Fatex3 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

DAII looks better than what I've seen of Diablo III and Witcher 2, and Skyrim is a different genre.

I love Bioware games also, but you sir, are blind or trying to brown-nose. Also Skyrim is a RPG, just like DA][

Skyrim is an open-world RPG while DAII is a tactical RPG. (I think) The point is, they are a different subgenre. For example, you can focus more on the graphics in a open-world game, whereas in a tactial RPG they focus more on the story and characters.

To be honest mate, i would think it would be the other way around 

No, in an open-world game you have to make the world look amazing, or people will get really bored really fast of looking at an ugly landscape. You can make things look good in DA type games and tactical RPG's, but don' t have to focus on it as much because people aren't paying as much attention to it as they would in open-world games.

[Morroian]

Mellakim wrote...

Metalunatic wrote...

Skyrim is an open-world RPG while DAII is a tactical RPG. (I think) The point is, they are a different subgenre. For example, you can focus more on the graphics in a open-world game, whereas in a tactial RPG they focus more on the story and characters.

To be honest mate, i would think it would be the other way around 

Dunno why. A tactical rpg has to run complex tactics for multiple characters and thus cannot devote the same resources to high end graphics that something like Skyrim can.

[mesmerizedish]

Anathemic wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Fatex3 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

DAII looks better than what I've seen of Diablo III and Witcher 2, and Skyrim is a different genre.

I love Bioware games also, but you sir, are blind or trying to brown-nose. Also Skyrim is a RPG, just like DA][

I'm not a sir, and I'm not blind. I think DAII looks better. Feel free to disagree, but don't try to tell me that my opinion is wrong.

Skyrim is a different genre. Tactical RPGs are different than sandbox RPGs. Oblivion's graphics were more detailed than Origins', even though it was released over three years earlier. They different foci.

RPGs all fall under the same genre. Your trying to argue something like  RTS != RPG, but it's not like that. Tactical RPGs, Sandbox RPGs, Action RPGs, they are all RPGs.

I never said Skyrim wasn't an RPG. I said Skyrim was an open-world sandbox RPG, whereas Dragon Age is a tactical RPG. They play very differently from one another, and they have different design priorities. I never said anything about RTSs. Please don't put words in my mouth.

[Anathemic]

XX-Pyro wrote...

Mellakim wrote...

Metalunatic wrote...

Fatex3 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

DAII looks better than what I've seen of Diablo III and Witcher 2, and Skyrim is a different genre.

I love Bioware games also, but you sir, are blind or trying to brown-nose. Also Skyrim is a RPG, just like DA][

Skyrim is an open-world RPG while DAII is a tactical RPG. (I think) The point is, they are a different subgenre. For example, you can focus more on the graphics in a open-world game, whereas in a tactial RPG they focus more on the story and characters.

To be honest mate, i would think it would be the other way around 

No, in an open-world game you have to make the world look amazing, or people will get really bored really fast of looking at an ugly landscape. You can make things look good in DA type games and tactical RPG's, but don' t have to focus on it as much because people aren't paying as much attention to it as they would in open-world games.

Then what's the argument for Action RPGs? Granted people would be focusing more on gameplay but they still able to pull off a good looking game (and since DA2 is trying ot incorporate Action RPG into its franchise...)

[Marhkus]

Really???

 Either some of you are graphic ****s or you need chillax, graphics are fine ((On PC anyways)):





Ogre *FACEPALMS* @ the graphic complaints.

[mesmerizedish]

Fatex3 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I'm not a sir, and I'm not blind. I think DAII looks better. Feel free to disagree, but don't try to tell me that my opinion is wrong.

Ok I'll take your word for it. You've got to be the only person I know that thinks a lower poly-count, low-rez textures and small maps are better graphics. By that scale your best graphic game of all time... Pong?

Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn, actually. Never have I seen more beautiful art in a game.

[Anathemic]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I never said Skyrim wasn't an RPG. I said Skyrim was an open-world sandbox RPG, whereas Dragon Age is a tactical RPG. They play very differently from one another, and they have different design priorities. I never said anything about RTSs. Please don't put words in my mouth.

I said something like it was an analogy. You're trying to say that this kind of RPG is not this kind of RPG therefore they shouldn't be compared. But you cannot do that since both fall under the same category of RPG and all share core values. 

And no DA is not tactical RPG anymore its a hybrid fused with action RPG.

[Metalunatic]

Still, people are talking like the graphics in DAII are actually bad, which surely isn't the case. I'd say they're good to very good graphics (can't say without testing the HD textures pack) -- which isn't the important part of games like this anyway. Story is what matters the most here.

[Mellakim]

My thinking was, since the focus is on such a smaller scale than a vast open space, you would be able to devote more time to graphics

[nisallik]

Anathemic wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I never said Skyrim wasn't an RPG. I said Skyrim was an open-world sandbox RPG, whereas Dragon Age is a tactical RPG. They play very differently from one another, and they have different design priorities. I never said anything about RTSs. Please don't put words in my mouth.

I said something like it was an analogy. You're trying to say that this kind of RPG is not this kind of RPG therefore they shouldn't be compared. But you cannot do that since both fall under the same category of RPG and all share core values. 

And no DA is not tactical RPG anymore its a hybrid fused with action RPG.

It is exactly like DAO, but faster.  So if we sped DAO 2X faster, it would be a hybrid fused with action RPG?

Modifié par nisallik, 06 mars 2011 - 02:44 .

[Mellakim]

Metalunatic wrote...

Still, people are talking like the graphics in DAII are actually bad, which surely isn't the case. I'd say they're good to very good graphics (can't say without testing the HD textures pack) -- which isn't the important part of games like this anyway. Story is what matters the most here.

Perhaps they confusing graphics with the new art direction?