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[Anathemic]

nisallik wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I never said Skyrim wasn't an RPG. I said Skyrim was an open-world sandbox RPG, whereas Dragon Age is a tactical RPG. They play very differently from one another, and they have different design priorities. I never said anything about RTSs. Please don't put words in my mouth.

I said something like it was an analogy. You're trying to say that this kind of RPG is not this kind of RPG therefore they shouldn't be compared. But you cannot do that since both fall under the same category of RPG and all share core values. 

And no DA is not tactical RPG anymore its a hybrid fused with action RPG.

It is exactly like DAO, but faster.  So if we sped DAO 2X, it would be a hybrid fused with action RPG?

Can you play DA2 like an action RPG, yes confirmed by devs. Can you play DA2 like a tactical RPG, yes confirmed by devs.

Now where are you going with this?

[mesmerizedish]

Anathemic wrote...

I said something like it was an analogy. You're trying to say that this kind of RPG is not this kind of RPG therefore they shouldn't be compared. But you cannot do that since both fall under the same category of RPG and all share core values. 

And no DA is not tactical RPG anymore its a hybrid fused with action RPG.

I'm not saying that they shouldn't be compared. I'm saying that when comparing them, you need to take into account what the teams focus on by nature of the type of game they're making.

Dragon Age II is a tactical RPG. It plays like a tactical RPG. If making combat actually fun magically turns it into an action RPG, then sure, it is. But I still have auto-attack, I still have pause-and-play, and tactics and positioning are still actually important in combat.

[Lethys1]

The graphics aren't great but they certainly aren't bad enough to discourage me from buying the game or anything like that.  They're colorful enough that I'm satisfied.  Kind of my policy with RPG's.  In fact, I don't think graphics really matter at all except for FPS games and some action games, but an RPG or strategy game shouldn't be held to the same standards. 

[Ayanna Nyx]

Anathemic wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Fatex3 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

DAII looks better than what I've seen of Diablo III and Witcher 2, and Skyrim is a different genre.

I love Bioware games also, but you sir, are blind or trying to brown-nose. Also Skyrim is a RPG, just like DA][

I'm not a sir, and I'm not blind. I think DAII looks better. Feel free to disagree, but don't try to tell me that my opinion is wrong.

Skyrim is a different genre. Tactical RPGs are different than sandbox RPGs. Oblivion's graphics were more detailed than Origins', even though it was released over three years earlier. They different foci.

RPGs all fall under the same genre. Your trying to argue something like  RTS != RPG, but it's not like that. Tactical RPGs, Sandbox RPGs, Action RPGs, they are all RPGs.

You said it Chewie.

And concerning graphics, I'm not blown over by DAII's appearance either but as long as the game is good, I'll play it over and over again. Not every game can have ME2 kinda quality going on.

[Beren082]

DX11

'nuff said

[Blackened25]

DA:O looks incredible with graphics maxed on a pc. It looks better than DA2 to me, but I prefer the realistic darker graphics style. DA2 has more recent technology, dx11 etc., that it can take advantage of. I'm looking forward to seeing some of the other places in the game.
On another note, I never got the whole "we're rpg players, we don't need good graphics" thing. Yeah they aren't the end all and be all, but we're as entitled to a good looking game as any other genre. Let's not accept less than any studios best efforts, on every facet of the game.

[Anathemic]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

I said something like it was an analogy. You're trying to say that this kind of RPG is not this kind of RPG therefore they shouldn't be compared. But you cannot do that since both fall under the same category of RPG and all share core values. 

And no DA is not tactical RPG anymore its a hybrid fused with action RPG.

I'm not saying that they shouldn't be compared. I'm saying that when comparing them, you need to take into account what the teams focus on by nature of the type of game they're making.

Dragon Age II is a tactical RPG. It plays like a tactical RPG. If making combat actually fun magically turns it into an action RPG, then sure, it is. But I still have auto-attack, I still have pause-and-play, and tactics and positioning are still actually important in combat.

Devs confirmed that you can play DA2 like an action RPG, it's a hybrid between the two.

And since when did action RPGs require no tactics?

[Mellakim]

Beren082 wrote...

DX11

'nuff said

Not really 

[Metalunatic]

Beren082 wrote...

DX11

'nuff said

And I suppose you think that every PC gamer and consoles can run DX11?

[panamakira]

Is this another excuse to post crap about The Witcher 2?
Seriously.

Anyway, if you were a fan of Origins you probably didn't mind the graphics. I don't think were gonna get a DA with amazing graphics until they at least change their engine or something. I don't care much for graphics but I don't complain when I get them~

[nisallik]

Anathemic wrote...

nisallik wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I never said Skyrim wasn't an RPG. I said Skyrim was an open-world sandbox RPG, whereas Dragon Age is a tactical RPG. They play very differently from one another, and they have different design priorities. I never said anything about RTSs. Please don't put words in my mouth.

I said something like it was an analogy. You're trying to say that this kind of RPG is not this kind of RPG therefore they shouldn't be compared. But you cannot do that since both fall under the same category of RPG and all share core values. 

And no DA is not tactical RPG anymore its a hybrid fused with action RPG.

It is exactly like DAO, but faster.  So if we sped DAO 2X, it would be a hybrid fused with action RPG?

Can you play DA2 like an action RPG, yes confirmed by devs. Can you play DA2 like a tactical RPG, yes confirmed by devs.

Now where are you going with this?

You could play DAO just like you can play DA2 now.  You are making them seem like different games, when they are exactly the same but with different animations.

[Anathemic]

Beren082 wrote...

DX11

'nuff said

Withcer 2 uses DX9

not 'nuff said

[STARSBarry]

its not so much the grahics i have a problem with but that I now have to fight the putty patrol from power rangers now instead of darkspawn

[Anathemic]

nisallik wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

nisallik wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I never said Skyrim wasn't an RPG. I said Skyrim was an open-world sandbox RPG, whereas Dragon Age is a tactical RPG. They play very differently from one another, and they have different design priorities. I never said anything about RTSs. Please don't put words in my mouth.

I said something like it was an analogy. You're trying to say that this kind of RPG is not this kind of RPG therefore they shouldn't be compared. But you cannot do that since both fall under the same category of RPG and all share core values. 

And no DA is not tactical RPG anymore its a hybrid fused with action RPG.

It is exactly like DAO, but faster.  So if we sped DAO 2X, it would be a hybrid fused with action RPG?

Can you play DA2 like an action RPG, yes confirmed by devs. Can you play DA2 like a tactical RPG, yes confirmed by devs.

Now where are you going with this?

You could play DAO just like you can play DA2 now.  You are making them seem like different games, when they are exactly the same but with different animations.

When DA2 rogue Hawke 'teleports/blinks' behind Darkspawn I consider it action-rpgish.

Granted its true you can still play it the same BUT you cannot deny that it is now a hybrid between the two.

[mesmerizedish]

Anathemic wrote...

When DA2 rogue Hawke 'teleports/blinks' behind Darkspawn I consider it action-rpgish.

Granted its true you can still play it the same BUT you cannot deny that it is now a hybrid between the two.

I assume we're only talking about the PC version, so I can and I do. But this thread is about graphics, not what kind of RPG DAII is, so let's just agree to disagree

Modifié par ishmaeltheforsaken, 06 mars 2011 - 02:53 .

[The Spirit of Dance]

i'll agree that the graphics are not as good as they can be. i'll also agree that it kind of ticks me off a little when trailers have misleading graphics for a game. However i've never been one to care much about graphics and will be happy with good story and/or gameplay

[mesmerizedish]

supremebloodwolf wrote...

i'll agree that the graphics are not as good as they can be. i'll also agree that it kind of ticks me off a little when trailers have misleading graphics for a game. However i've never been one to care much about graphics and will be happy with good story and/or gameplay

Good thing DAII's trailers have never misrepresented tha game's look.

[dujh]

Anathemic wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

Metalunatic wrote...

Wrong genre to look for great graphics.

Witcher 2, Skyrim would like to have a word with you, hell let's throw in Diablo 3

DAII looks better than what I've seen of Diablo III and Witcher 2, and Skyrim is a different genre.

All games are part of the RPG genre and...

[mesmerizedish]

dujh wrote...

*Witcher pic snipped*

Grats? I still think DAII looks better. Sure me.

[wulfsturm]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

dujh wrote...

*Witcher pic snipped*

Grats? I still think DAII looks better. Sure me.

BUT IT HAs BETTER GRAFIXX!!!!1!!1

[Night Prowler76]

Metalunatic wrote...

Fatex3 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

DAII looks better than what I've seen of Diablo III and Witcher 2, and Skyrim is a different genre.

I love Bioware games also, but you sir, are blind or trying to brown-nose. Also Skyrim is a RPG, just like DA][

Skyrim is an open-world RPG while DAII is a tactical RPG. (I think) The point is, they are a different subgenre. For example, you can focus more on the graphics in a open-world game, whereas in a tactial RPG they focus more on the story and characters.

That is just a false statement, DA2 is an action RPG, also, open world games take much more work to create that world, as where DA games have set areas and that is all. So they dont need as much resources to make it pretty, but yet they dont.

People think that because a game has a good story then it gives it a pass to look sub par? Im not buying that, the "writers" for the most part, have nothing to do with the build of the game, neither do the creative directors, they give the concept the designs and the programmers take it from there, the ONLY reason a game has sub par graphics is because the studio  isnt that great at making good looking games, or for money and time reason (which is kind of what happening to DA2), the graphics will not look that great compared to games that have had a longer dev time.

[Maria Caliban]

Dragon Age II looks very good. Have you seen the Direct X 11 shots with high rez textures? Because the demo had console level resolution and DX11 wasn't fully implimented.

[mesmerizedish]

wulfsturm wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

dujh wrote...

*Witcher pic snipped*

Grats? I still think DAII looks better. Sure me.

BUT IT HAs BETTER GRAFIXX!!!!1!!1

File a brief with that on the first page. My people will talk to your people.

[Jordy Laforge]

Canned Bullets wrote...

 Isn't it annoying? I don't pay much attention to graphics, but compared to other games, the graphics on DA2 aren't that good. What's annoying is that in the trailers the graphics look awesome, but in the actual game, it just looks sub par. 

So what..? I'm going to start a thread that says "Graphics not sub par.". There are only a handful of games that out do DA2 in the graphics department. There is already a bunch of these dumb graphics posts all over this forum, why not post in one of those? I get it ..this is really a "Hey! Look at me." thread.

Modifié par Jordy Laforge, 06 mars 2011 - 06:40 .

[wulfsturm]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
File a brief with that on the first page. My people will talk to your people.

This thread has been ajourned, case dismissed!