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[Marhkus]

Geralt's an old fart that looks *fugly*



Hawke wins hands down. Well, my Hawke anyways. As for the overall graphics, the art direction on both games is different. Witcher went for realism which it pulls off on most occasions ((From what we've seen so far)). DA2 went for a style that meshes well with their cutscenes and dark themes.

At the end of the day though, I think DA2 will run smoothly on all 3 platforms while Witcher2 will/might be clunky on 360 and med performance PCs. Hell, even the PS3 might lag a bit if they didn't do a great optimization job.

[Junri]

Night Prowler76 wrote...

Metalunatic wrote...

Fatex3 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

DAII looks better than what I've seen of Diablo III and Witcher 2, and Skyrim is a different genre.

I love Bioware games also, but you sir, are blind or trying to brown-nose. Also Skyrim is a RPG, just like DA][

Skyrim is an open-world RPG while DAII is a tactical RPG. (I think) The point is, they are a different subgenre. For example, you can focus more on the graphics in a open-world game, whereas in a tactial RPG they focus more on the story and characters.

That is just a false statement, DA2 is an action RPG, also, open world games take much more work to create that world, as where DA games have set areas and that is all. So they dont need as much resources to make it pretty, but yet they dont.

People think that because a game has a good story then it gives it a pass to look sub par? Im not buying that, the "writers" for the most part, have nothing to do with the build of the game, neither do the creative directors, they give the concept the designs and the programmers take it from there, the ONLY reason a game has sub par graphics is because the studio  isnt that great at making good looking games, or for money and time reason (which is kind of what happening to DA2), the graphics will not look that great compared to games that have had a longer dev time.

If you play DA2 as an action RPG on hard+ . You'll be seeing the game over screen a lot. Its only an action RPG for those on Normal and below.

Here's a definition:
http://en.wikipedia....le-playing_game

DA2 kind of blurs the line between it, but saying it isn't a Tactical RPG is just false. We can call it a Tactical action RPG if you wish however.

And the graphics are pretty good from what I've seen on DX11 high res screenshots.

Modifié par Junri, 06 mars 2011 - 06:39 .

[mikeburns]

I think the graphics are eh. Kind of average. Doesn't mean game won't rock.

[BFBHLC]

Marhkus wrote...

Geralt's an old fart that looks *fugly*



Hawke wins hands down. Well, my Hawke anyways. As for the overall graphics, the art direction on both games is different. Witcher went for realism which it pulls off on most occasions ((From what we've seen so far)). DA2 went for a style that meshes well with their cutscenes and dark themes.

At the end of the day though, I think DA2 will run smoothly on all 3 platforms while Witcher2 will/might be clunky on 360 and med performance PCs. Hell, even the PS3 might lag a bit if they didn't do a great optimization job.

How did you get a modified version of Hawke in the beginning? Could you be a pirate? 

[wulfsturm]

BFBHLC wrote...

How did you get a modified version of Hawke in the beginning? Could you be a pirate? 

There's a (legal) mod that unlocks character customization and the inventory in the PC demo.

[mesmerizedish]

BFBHLC wrote...

How did you get a modified version of Hawke in the beginning? Could you be a pirate? 

No, there are some modded files that unlock character customization, inventory, and difficulty in the demo.

[Night Prowler76]

Junri wrote...

Night Prowler76 wrote...

Metalunatic wrote...

Fatex3 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

DAII looks better than what I've seen of Diablo III and Witcher 2, and Skyrim is a different genre.

I love Bioware games also, but you sir, are blind or trying to brown-nose. Also Skyrim is a RPG, just like DA][

Skyrim is an open-world RPG while DAII is a tactical RPG. (I think) The point is, they are a different subgenre. For example, you can focus more on the graphics in a open-world game, whereas in a tactial RPG they focus more on the story and characters.

That is just a false statement, DA2 is an action RPG, also, open world games take much more work to create that world, as where DA games have set areas and that is all. So they dont need as much resources to make it pretty, but yet they dont.

People think that because a game has a good story then it gives it a pass to look sub par? Im not buying that, the "writers" for the most part, have nothing to do with the build of the game, neither do the creative directors, they give the concept the designs and the programmers take it from there, the ONLY reason a game has sub par graphics is because the studio  isnt that great at making good looking games, or for money and time reason (which is kind of what happening to DA2), the graphics will not look that great compared to games that have had a longer dev time.

If you play DA2 as an action RPG on hard+ . You'll be seeing the game over screen a lot. Its only an action RPG for those on Normal and below.

Here's a definition:
http://en.wikipedia....le-playing_game

DA2 kind of blurs the line between it, but saying it isn't a Tactical RPG is just false. We can call it a Tactical action RPG if you wish however.

And the graphics are pretty good from what I've seen on DX11 high res screenshots.

Im pretty sure that BIOWARE is marketing and calling this game and ACTION RPG...

http://social.biowar...-4581871-1.html

  DA2 is an action RPG, its just some people on these forums refuse to admit it unfortunately, that doesnt mean it wont be a good action rpg, it will probably be ok.

The Graphics are sub par from what Ive seen from walkthroughs etc, they arent even close to ME2 level, but then again, ME2 was made with Epics Unreal engine so thats probably why, I play games on the PC and 360, and I can safely say DA is on the low end of graphics chart.

[Night Prowler76]

Marhkus wrote...

Geralt's an old fart that looks *fugly*



Hawke wins hands down. Well, my Hawke anyways. As for the overall graphics, the art direction on both games is different. Witcher went for realism which it pulls off on most occasions ((From what we've seen so far)). DA2 went for a style that meshes well with their cutscenes and dark themes.

At the end of the day though, I think DA2 will run smoothly on all 3 platforms while Witcher2 will/might be clunky on 360 and med performance PCs. Hell, even the PS3 might lag a bit if they didn't do a great optimization job.

The witcher 2 might not even make it to the 360 and PS3, they are thinking about it, but probably wont happen, so speculating that it will run poorly when you have no idea is kind of silly I think.

[Bryzon]

The graphics are sub par? I thought they were fantastic.

[Anathemic]

Marhkus wrote...

Geralt's an old fart that looks *fugly*



Hawke wins hands down. Well, my Hawke anyways. As for the overall graphics, the art direction on both games is different. Witcher went for realism which it pulls off on most occasions ((From what we've seen so far)). DA2 went for a style that meshes well with their cutscenes and dark themes.

At the end of the day though, I think DA2 will run smoothly on all 3 platforms while Witcher2 will/might be clunky on 360 and med performance PCs. Hell, even the PS3 might lag a bit if they didn't do a great optimization job.

Yeah what?

[wulfsturm]

Ah fanboyism, love it.

[Anathemic]

Oh and for Witcher 2 optimizing for consoles, it won't be a problem.

The RED engine (the engine sued for Witcher 2) was created with consoles in mind, CD Projekt RED has been attempting to expand to consoles for a while now (since 2009) so if a console port does happen I doubt it will be anything but successful.

[AlanC9]

Night Prowler76 wrote...


  DA2 is an action RPG, its just some people on these forums refuse to admit it unfortunately, that doesnt mean it wont be a good action rpg, it will probably be ok.

Well, a lot of folks refuse to call something without mandatory twitch elements an action RPG. Which I guess means that they disagree with Bio on the definition.

[kingboomachoo]

I don't think companies have to reinvent the graphical wheel each incarnation of a game (unless it's been like 5 years since the last game) but they certainly need to make engines that scale considerably well (UT, Cryengine, MT-Framework, etc,etc) and that are upgradeable during the progress of a generation of gaming.

DA2 isn't a ugly game by any definition but the fact there are games out there that are damn near bleeding eye-candy makes people wish that every new release was just as gorgeous, the witcher 2 being a fine example.

[didymos1120]

Anathemic wrote...

Yeah what?

Does anyone else think this kinda looks like DA:O  if  it were running on the Unreal Engine?  Seriously:  there's something very "Origins-y" about the whole look, just....shinier.

Modifié par didymos1120, 06 mars 2011 - 07:43 .

[mesmerizedish]

didymos1120 wrote...

Does anyone else think this kinda looks like DA:O  if  it were running on the Unreal Engine?  Seriously:  there's something very "Origins-y" about the whole look, just....shinier.

Yeah, I see it.

[Savber100]

ANOTHER gaming graphic thread?
Don't you guys get bored after nitpicking a department that has NEVER been Bioware's strong point? (ME series aside)
The Witcher 2 looks beautiful... whoop-teet-doo
Dragon Age 2 looks decent. OH NO! The game is ruined!

Seriously you can tell who's the actual mature gamer here just by looking at what's been argued right now.

Ask yourself this in 5 years or even 3 years, will people still be ****ing about the graphics for Witcher 2 or Dragon Age 2? Obviously no. Instead, the REAL discussion that REAL gamers will be asking is how the particular game succeeded in story and gameplay. Pretty games can only go so far.

Modifié par Savber100, 06 mars 2011 - 07:56 .

[VOA]

Hmm, another veiled advertisement for Witcher 2, someone here must be getting checks from Atari.

Bioware games have always been brain-massages rather than eye-candies (except ME2, which was both). I doubt they will sacrifice their hard-earned reputation on story and character development in pursuit of the "graphic card overheating champion" crown anytime soon.

[Ozzyfan223]

in all honesty, I don't look at DA2 and say "wow these graphics are bad" like I did with DA:O. I think they work and get the job done. The characters look nice, though enviorments are but lacking. It may not be God of War 3, or hell, even Mass Effect 2, but I like 'em.

-SL213

[Aviena]

I don't get why everyone thought ME2 had such amazing graphics. :S Don't get me wrong - I liked them - but I don't get why they are so revered. Personally, I think DA2 graphics (on PC at least) are looking to be just as good, if not better.

[BigTopTony]

I agree with Aviena. A lot of the textures on ME2 looked very poor. I always hoped they were going to do like they're doing for DA2, and that is, put out a res-texture pack.

[TwistedComplex]

Anathemic wrote...

Metalunatic wrote...

Wrong genre to look for great graphics.

Witcher 2, Skyrim would like to have a word with you, hell let's throw in Diablo 3

Skyrim?... Really?

Gamebyro dude? No

[TwistedComplex]

Anathemic wrote...


Yeah what?

I didn't know sephiroth wore leather....

[st6212]

When is Bioware releasing a hi-res texture pack for DA2?

[TwistedComplex]

Aviena wrote...

I don't get why everyone thought ME2 had such amazing graphics. :S Don't get me wrong - I liked them - but I don't get why they are so revered. Personally, I think DA2 graphics (on PC at least) are looking to be just as good, if not better.

ME2 took probably one of the worst looking graphics engines and turned into gold

That's why ME2 is awesome