TwistedComplex wrote...
Skyrim?... Really?
Gamebyro dude? No
Skyrim isn't gamebryo, which makes it another reason why people are so excited for it.
http://www.rockpaper...engine-all-new/
Graphics being sub par.
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#101
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 08:17
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Skyrim isn't gamebryo, which makes it another reason why people are so excited for it.
http://www.rockpaper...engine-all-new/
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#102
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 08:17
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st6212 wrote...
When is Bioware releasing a hi-res texture pack for DA2?
This monday
#103
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 08:18
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st6212 wrote...
When is Bioware releasing a hi-res texture pack for DA2?
Release day.
#104
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 08:18
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Lennonkun wrote...
TwistedComplex wrote...
Skyrim?... Really?
Gamebyro dude? No
Skyrim isn't gamebryo, which makes it another reason why people are so excited for it.
http://www.rockpaper...engine-all-new/
Actually it's a spinoff of the gamebyro
They're basically modifying gamebyro and slapping another label on it
And It still looks like trash
#105
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 08:20
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TwistedComplex wrote...
Actually it's a spinoff of the gamebyro
They're basically modifying gamebyro and slapping another label on it
And It still looks like trash
Without passing judgment on Skyrim's graphics, the engine isn't Gamebryo. It's not based on Gamebryo. They built it themselves from the ground up. It may end up looking like trash. I haven't seen enough of it to judge. But it has nothing to do with Gamebryo. Just want that made clear.
#106
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 08:21
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I fear this obsession graphic is what will ruin the video game industry. Game shave become very expensive to make. We are talking movie budgets and AAA titles approaching the price tag of blockbusters. With this kind of money on the line publishers will take less and less risks and all we'll get is is more of the same.
Personally, I play games for the GAMEplay and not the graphics. That's why some of my favorite games are indie titles. Now you know why the industry has to rely on DLC to keep the money flowing. It's the pretty, pretty graphics.
Personally, I play games for the GAMEplay and not the graphics. That's why some of my favorite games are indie titles. Now you know why the industry has to rely on DLC to keep the money flowing. It's the pretty, pretty graphics.
#107
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 08:22
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TwistedComplex wrote...
Actually it's a spinoff of the gamebyro
They're basically modifying gamebyro and slapping another label on it
And It still looks like trash
http://www.rockpaper...ngine-detailed/
Actually no, good try though.
At the end of the day though, Skyrim blows away DA2 and that's what counts.
#108
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 08:24
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Lennonkun wrote...
TwistedComplex wrote...
Actually it's a spinoff of the gamebyro
They're basically modifying gamebyro and slapping another label on it
And It still looks like trash
http://www.rockpaper...ngine-detailed/
Actually no, good try though.
At the end of the day though, Skyrim blows away DA2 and that's what counts.
*See an endless sea of brown and grey*
*close window*
OhBoyHereWeGo.jpg
There's a difference between better graphics and looking better
Modifié par TwistedComplex, 06 mars 2011 - 08:25 .
#109
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 08:25
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TwistedComplex wrote...
Lennonkun wrote...
TwistedComplex wrote...
Skyrim?... Really?
Gamebyro dude? No
Skyrim isn't gamebryo, which makes it another reason why people are so excited for it.
http://www.rockpaper...engine-all-new/
Actually it's a spinoff of the gamebyro
They're basically modifying gamebyro and slapping another label on it
And It still looks like trash
That was my first impression but it seems it's a whole new engine called creation.
#110
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 08:26
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I had no issue with the graphics in Origins, and they are better in this one, so no issue for me.
#111
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 08:29
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[quote]Night Prowler76 wrote...
[quote]Junri wrote...
That is just a false statement, DA2 is an action RPG, also, open world games take much more work to create that world, as where DA games have set areas and that is all. So they dont need as much resources to make it pretty, but yet they dont.
People think that because a game has a good story then it gives it a pass to look sub par? Im not buying that, the "writers" for the most part, have nothing to do with the build of the game, neither do the creative directors, they give the concept the designs and the programmers take it from there, the ONLY reason a game has sub par graphics is because the studio isnt that great at making good looking games, or for money and time reason (which is kind of what happening to DA2), the graphics will not look that great compared to games that have had a longer dev time.
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If you play DA2 as an action RPG on hard+ . You'll be seeing the game over screen a lot. Its only an action RPG for those on Normal and below.
Here's a definition:
http://en.wikipedia....le-playing_game
DA2 kind of blurs the line between it, but saying it isn't a Tactical RPG is just false. We can call it a Tactical action RPG if you wish however.
And the graphics are pretty good from what I've seen on DX11 high res screenshots.
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Im pretty sure that BIOWARE is marketing and calling this game and ACTION RPG...
http://social.biowar...-4581871-1.html
DA2 is an action RPG, its just some people on these forums refuse to admit it unfortunately, that doesnt mean it wont be a good action rpg, it will probably be ok.
The Graphics are sub par from what Ive seen from walkthroughs etc, they arent even close to ME2 level, but then again, ME2 was made with Epics Unreal engine so thats probably why, I play games on the PC and 360, and I can safely say DA is on the low end of graphics chart.
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Just because marketing is calling this game an Action RPG doesn't make it one. The Witcher 2 is marketing itself as a classical RPG, but we all know that its realm is definitely in the Action RPG area, especially from the gamplay videos.
Its all about your definition of an Action RPG: Mine is an RPG whose gameplay takes place usually in realtime and requires active input of player actions. It uses stats to determine damage and other gameplay mechanics, but still requires a degree of player skill. A-RPGs also do not have auto-targetting.
The fact the DA2 has auto-targetting (at least in PC anyway). You don't have to aim your weapon towards an enemy like in Witcher 2 or Mass Effect or any games like that. The game does it for you, like in olden days CRPGs.
Not only that, you can pause the game and choose combat moves which removes the realtime play.
Also, I think you need to look up some screenshots of the DX11 textures in DA2, because they are actually really nice. I can't say anything about how the graphics really look until I actually play the game on my PC, but I disagree with the fact that it isn't even close to ME2. I'd say its pretty darn close and may be better.
I expressed my disagreement fully. If i didn't change your mind even a little bit, lets just agree to disagree :S
[quote]Junri wrote...
That is just a false statement, DA2 is an action RPG, also, open world games take much more work to create that world, as where DA games have set areas and that is all. So they dont need as much resources to make it pretty, but yet they dont.
People think that because a game has a good story then it gives it a pass to look sub par? Im not buying that, the "writers" for the most part, have nothing to do with the build of the game, neither do the creative directors, they give the concept the designs and the programmers take it from there, the ONLY reason a game has sub par graphics is because the studio isnt that great at making good looking games, or for money and time reason (which is kind of what happening to DA2), the graphics will not look that great compared to games that have had a longer dev time.
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If you play DA2 as an action RPG on hard+ . You'll be seeing the game over screen a lot. Its only an action RPG for those on Normal and below.
Here's a definition:
http://en.wikipedia....le-playing_game
DA2 kind of blurs the line between it, but saying it isn't a Tactical RPG is just false. We can call it a Tactical action RPG if you wish however.
And the graphics are pretty good from what I've seen on DX11 high res screenshots.
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Im pretty sure that BIOWARE is marketing and calling this game and ACTION RPG...
http://social.biowar...-4581871-1.html
DA2 is an action RPG, its just some people on these forums refuse to admit it unfortunately, that doesnt mean it wont be a good action rpg, it will probably be ok.
The Graphics are sub par from what Ive seen from walkthroughs etc, they arent even close to ME2 level, but then again, ME2 was made with Epics Unreal engine so thats probably why, I play games on the PC and 360, and I can safely say DA is on the low end of graphics chart.
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Just because marketing is calling this game an Action RPG doesn't make it one. The Witcher 2 is marketing itself as a classical RPG, but we all know that its realm is definitely in the Action RPG area, especially from the gamplay videos.
Its all about your definition of an Action RPG: Mine is an RPG whose gameplay takes place usually in realtime and requires active input of player actions. It uses stats to determine damage and other gameplay mechanics, but still requires a degree of player skill. A-RPGs also do not have auto-targetting.
The fact the DA2 has auto-targetting (at least in PC anyway). You don't have to aim your weapon towards an enemy like in Witcher 2 or Mass Effect or any games like that. The game does it for you, like in olden days CRPGs.
Not only that, you can pause the game and choose combat moves which removes the realtime play.
Also, I think you need to look up some screenshots of the DX11 textures in DA2, because they are actually really nice. I can't say anything about how the graphics really look until I actually play the game on my PC, but I disagree with the fact that it isn't even close to ME2. I'd say its pretty darn close and may be better.
I expressed my disagreement fully. If i didn't change your mind even a little bit, lets just agree to disagree :S
#112
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 09:17
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demo was an old build and the live streams looked much better ...but i like the look of DA2 it fits the world .....i wouldnt not say sub-par but thats me
#113
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 09:26
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Anathemic wrote...
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Geralt's an old fart that looks *fugly*
Hawke wins hands down. Well, my Hawke anyways. As for the overall graphics, the art direction on both games is different. Witcher went for realism which it pulls off on most occasions ((From what we've seen so far)). DA2 went for a style that meshes well with their cutscenes and dark themes.
At the end of the day though, I think DA2 will run smoothly on all 3 platforms while Witcher2 will/might be clunky on 360 and med performance PCs. Hell, even the PS3 might lag a bit if they didn't do a great optimization job.
Yeah what?
Looks great, did you get that in game? On your PC? Cuz mine came from ingame, on my PC. Or did you just find a nice Projekt Screenshot of the internet... Hmm.
#114
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 09:27
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Graphichs just improves the look of the game, not the game itself.
#115
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 09:31
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They seem to do shadows right and Bioware is -- according to yesterday's dev chat -- releasing a texture pack for you graphics hogs.
#116
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 09:32
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They've called DAO an action rpg as well, which it is cause all of the conflicts are resolved by combat. What neither DAO nor DA2 is is hack and slash.Junri wrote...
Im pretty sure that BIOWARE is marketing and calling this game and ACTION RPG...
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 09:33
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Morroian wrote...
They've called DAO an action rpg as well, which it is cause all of the conflicts are resolved by combat. What neither DAO nor DA2 is is hack and slash.Junri wrote...
Im pretty sure that BIOWARE is marketing and calling this game and ACTION RPG...
Considering you have to either turn on auto attack for each seperate enemy, or button mash, it kind of is a hack and slash game.
#118
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 09:41
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I am fine with the graphics. I just ran the demo on low and it looked on par with DA:O on Medium graphics, if not better.
I don't know if people are being graphic snobs or what but I really don't care much about graphics. It is the lowest thing on my priority list, personally. Nobody else has to feel the same of course. But I still replay games from AGES ago: Baldur's Gate, NWN2, Chrono Trigger, FF7.. lots of games where the graphics are not the best but everything else is top notch.
TL;DR: To me graphics is the least important thing about the game and these ones are pretty good.
I don't know if people are being graphic snobs or what but I really don't care much about graphics. It is the lowest thing on my priority list, personally. Nobody else has to feel the same of course. But I still replay games from AGES ago: Baldur's Gate, NWN2, Chrono Trigger, FF7.. lots of games where the graphics are not the best but everything else is top notch.
TL;DR: To me graphics is the least important thing about the game and these ones are pretty good.
#119
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 09:45
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Rawgrim wrote...
Considering you have to either turn on auto attack for each seperate enemy, or button mash, it kind of is a hack and slash game.
Not on PC.
#120
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 09:46
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DA:O and DA2 seems to be so so rendering wise; esp. DA:O had horrible colours (largely due to textures, but also due to the render), and the render junkie at work couldn't stand to even look at DA:O. But at least the colours seems to be in balance texture and render.
Also the design seems sharper in DA2 opposed to DA:O.
But I'd agree that the Witcher 2, ME2 and most unreal games (though I dislike Epics own creations due to overuse of detail maps, even if they are getting better at it) and most other new games are nicer from a lightning and render standpoint than DA2.
Still I like painted diffuses and I prefer the painted textures from DA2 over most other games and their looks. Now if they would just make the weapons less of the latex foam variety (more real, sharper, smaller) I'd be happy.
Also the design seems sharper in DA2 opposed to DA:O.
But I'd agree that the Witcher 2, ME2 and most unreal games (though I dislike Epics own creations due to overuse of detail maps, even if they are getting better at it) and most other new games are nicer from a lightning and render standpoint than DA2.
Still I like painted diffuses and I prefer the painted textures from DA2 over most other games and their looks. Now if they would just make the weapons less of the latex foam variety (more real, sharper, smaller) I'd be happy.
#121
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 09:56
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No offence but he looks kinda umm…fruity
#123
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 10:20
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graphic look great imo da2 seems too pulled a more dark gritty comic book look.
#124
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 10:20
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Ever played God of War 3? If so, did you play the demo? A lot of people complained the graphics sucked with others saying it was an old build, and guess what? Game comes out and graphics are heavily improved....because the demo is just that, a DEMO. Not a finished product.
#125
Posté 06 mars 2011 - 10:22
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rma2110 wrote...
I fear this obsession graphic is what will ruin the video game industry.
I doubt it.
Firstly, more and more games aren't being made exclusively for the PC. The stagger of console generations slows down the hardware rush associated with gaming. Moreover, the big selling games have to aim as mid-range PCs.
Not to mention platforms like the Wii, Nintendo DS, browser based games, and IPods. EA isn't making as much money as the publishers of Farmville. In the next few decades, 'gamers' are going to have to recognize that they're the minority of gamers.
Secondly, while there will always be a push for better looking, at some point, we'll reach a plateau where 'better-looking' is more stylistic than technological. To some extent, Dragon Age II is a product of this.
