Ryzaki wrote...
Hawke would win because the Warden would wait and wait for Hawke to make the first move. Hawke being only able to react wouldn't so the Warden would give up and walk off.
This would be hilarious if it wasn't so true...
Hawke vs. Warden: who would win and why?
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#276
Posté 31 mai 2011 - 10:27
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This would be hilarious if it wasn't so true...
Retour en haut
#277
Posté 31 mai 2011 - 10:35
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XX-Pyro wrote...
Flemeth would squish both.
That didn't happen when my warden fought her...
#278
Posté 31 mai 2011 - 10:40
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Dridengx wrote...
People seem to be using their old 'stats' vs none for Hawke since they have not created him, being not far. They seemed to have failed to consider Hawke attacks much quicker being from DA2 with the new combat system lol as well as having new skills. Hawke can kill the Grey Warden because not only is he faster but he has upgradable skills and spells.
Mage Warden can get off Mana Cage instantainously, it goes off at the start of the casting animation. After that you can take your pick of gamebreaking insta death combos that you can cast at your leasure.
#279
Posté 31 mai 2011 - 11:24
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In game? Depends on class and level. If the warden is a high level Arcane Warrior Hawke has no chance in hell regardless of class. But if Hawke is a high level Rouge with the Duelist/Assassin spec Warden is kind of boned.
Not in game though? I'm not sure, probably the warden.
Not in game though? I'm not sure, probably the warden.
#280
Posté 31 mai 2011 - 11:37
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have to say the warden would win. at least at this point in time. More content is available for the original DA than the DA2 game. which means: More Toys. Also, I beleive the "powers" (abilities-magic, rogue skills, warrior skills) are toned down or missing in DA2. Several branches of rogue arent even in DA2 (forget what it's called, but there is an ability that lets you teleport and backstab all baddies in a certain area that isabella gets, but hawke doesnt; warden can get this ability if a dwarven rogue).And I believe the same is true at least for mage also. Mage abilities that have the same name, are also not the same as they were in DA origins.I sure as heck remember the hemerage power being a lot more deadly in DA Origins
#281
Posté 31 mai 2011 - 11:41
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This is a very silly question, wouldn't it depend on the character you made? I mean some of my Hawke characters were made to be tougher or weaker then my Wardens.
I have 2 DAO characters and 2 DA2 characters, I could tell you who could kill who, but I doubt you would care.
I have 2 DAO characters and 2 DA2 characters, I could tell you who could kill who, but I doubt you would care.
#282
Posté 01 juin 2011 - 04:15
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Edhriano wrote...
AwesomeEffect2 wrote...
*A Dalish Warden and the Champion cross paths*
[snip]
Hawke: I RESCUED FLEMETH FROM YOU AND I SLAUGHTERED YOUR ENTIRE CLAN! Oh, later I even killed a friend of yours who had deep romantic feelings for you when you were young!
Warden: D': MOTHERF@#$%R!
Huh? when did that happen?
@Serpieri
Is it ok to repost your image about hawk vs warden from hilarious image topic here?
The mods did give several warning not to repost images, It would be very sad
to have hilarous image topic lock again >.< ... one of few topic I really like.
Reason they locked it was people would repost the image in the replies so it created large pyramids.
Modifié par Serpieri Nei, 01 juin 2011 - 09:26 .
#283
Posté 01 juin 2011 - 04:35
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Serpieri Nei wrote...
Reason they locked it was people would report the image in the replies so it created large pyramids.
Oh I see, my bad
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#284
Posté 01 juin 2011 - 05:46
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The Players:
Elissa Cousland: Queen of Fereldan and Commander of the Wardens:
Elissa, while born to a life a privilage was never complacent with her station, longing for a way to meaningfully change the world. Since she was a small child she dreamed of joining the Grey Wardens but kept her ambitions secret from her parents fearing their disapproval. Elissa spent almost every free hour with her mother, training her skills with the bow, when her mother wasn't avaliable Elissa entertained herself by exploring Highever, stealing pies from the cooks, and talking her way out of trouble when she got caught, which was infrequent. She developped into a cheery, eay-going young woman, charming, skilled and confident in herself but disatisfied with the life that her station had planned for her. Though it would be unfair to say that Elissa was glad at for the events that led to her initiation into the Grey Wardens, and indeed she harbored a burning grudge against their instigator for her whole life, they were a fulfillment of a life-long dream for her.
During her travels Elissa met and fell in love with Alistair. Soon after meeting they were inseperable, both willing to do anything for eachother, it was no suprise, but a little bit of a disappointment for Lelianna, when they married little more than a year after meeting.
On the battlefield Elissa is like a phantom. Elissa never prided herself on being the strongest, the toughest and she certainly never claimed to be magical but no one could avoid danger like Elissa. That statement may be a bit misleading, however, to clarify, Elissa was never afraid of combat and, indeed, often revelled in it but she did not like hurting others when other solutions presented themselves. In that capacity her cunning and skill with her tongue served her better than any sword, which isn't saying much because Elissa never wielded a sword in her life. Instead Elissa wielded the bow. Using a combination of stealth, well-placed shots and selfless allies Elissa was almost never close enough to an enemy for them to hit her. Even on the rare occasions when they were none ever landed a hit on her. Whenever they struck out she slipped past their attack earning her the nickname "Unscathed Elissa."
On a sidenote: Elissa is probably adopted.
Alecsander Hawke: Champion of Kirkwall and Current Fugative:
Alecsander was a goofy charmer with a heart of gold, an oversized sword and a borderline depraved elf-fetish. Among his redeeming qualities was a fierce, uncompromising loyalty, a burning dedication to freedom and a REALLY big sword.
Since Hawke isn't as much a creation of my imagination as Elissa I don't feel comfortable making up a pre-Kirkwall story and I shouldn't say anything about the plot and Alecsander's choices except that he sided with the mages every time and had a deep respect for the Qunari, taking their side as much as possible as well. In addition Alecsander romanced Merrill exclusively. From the moment he saw her he had eyes for no one else. It took a while for him to convince her that they could work but eventually they came together and let nothing seperate them.
On the battlefield Hawke is always in the front. Though he learned the basics of templar abilities to better understand and briefly pursued the rage of a berserker he never really varied from his twin pursuits of basic offense and defense. Hawke's ultimate goal in any battle is to keep his enemies away from his spellcasting and sharpshooting companions, hopefully in a group around himself. Instead of hiding behing a shield and calling names at his enemies Hawke makes them come to him by making himself seem the biggest threat. When he has gathered them all together his allies unleash a rain of arrows, torrents of fire and storms of ice on his position as Hawke slams the ground, stunning his enemies then charges out of the thick of them to spare himself his ally's wroth.
The Battle:
Bent low, Hawke charges Elissa, sword scrapping the weed-choked tiles. As he reaches her he snaps his whole body up, his sword roars as it slashes up from his thigh lightening fast. It catches only air. Hawke looks around confused, sword held defensively, waiting for her to strike. Sensing something coming he spins and strikes at their, again he contacts nothing. The trepidation rising in Hawke is quickly replaced by pain as a arrow pierces the meat of his calve from behind. It flys into his leg and rips out the other side, embedding itself in the ground. If he doesn't move Hawke knows she will hav e him and, in desperation, the rips the arrow from his leg and rolls away. Four arrows whish past him, missing by a hair's breathe. The fifth arrow catches him in the hand. In disbelief he watches as it rips one finger free after another. They spiral through the air trailing streams of Hawke's bright blood. Hawke leaps behind a pillar and crouches there. With quick motions he removes an Elfroot potion from his bag. Briefly preparing himself for the bitter taste, he closes his eyes then, in a moment of decision, he quaffs the whole bottle. Almost instantly his hand and leg have regrown. With his newly repair hand Hawke grasps the hilt of his greatsword and holds them emty bottle in the other. With a leonine roar Hawke leaps from behind the pillar expecting to immediately spot tohe almost-black skin and perfectly maintained hair that gave her away. She was nowhere to be seen. Slowly Hawke puts down the bottle that he had intended to throw at her for a moment's distraction. Hawke felt an arrow pass through his shoulder than another one through hs heart. Using the tiny bit left of the magic. Conciosness if faiding away from Hawke, it souldn't slike isablella
Elissa Cousland: Queen of Fereldan and Commander of the Wardens:
Elissa, while born to a life a privilage was never complacent with her station, longing for a way to meaningfully change the world. Since she was a small child she dreamed of joining the Grey Wardens but kept her ambitions secret from her parents fearing their disapproval. Elissa spent almost every free hour with her mother, training her skills with the bow, when her mother wasn't avaliable Elissa entertained herself by exploring Highever, stealing pies from the cooks, and talking her way out of trouble when she got caught, which was infrequent. She developped into a cheery, eay-going young woman, charming, skilled and confident in herself but disatisfied with the life that her station had planned for her. Though it would be unfair to say that Elissa was glad at for the events that led to her initiation into the Grey Wardens, and indeed she harbored a burning grudge against their instigator for her whole life, they were a fulfillment of a life-long dream for her.
During her travels Elissa met and fell in love with Alistair. Soon after meeting they were inseperable, both willing to do anything for eachother, it was no suprise, but a little bit of a disappointment for Lelianna, when they married little more than a year after meeting.
On the battlefield Elissa is like a phantom. Elissa never prided herself on being the strongest, the toughest and she certainly never claimed to be magical but no one could avoid danger like Elissa. That statement may be a bit misleading, however, to clarify, Elissa was never afraid of combat and, indeed, often revelled in it but she did not like hurting others when other solutions presented themselves. In that capacity her cunning and skill with her tongue served her better than any sword, which isn't saying much because Elissa never wielded a sword in her life. Instead Elissa wielded the bow. Using a combination of stealth, well-placed shots and selfless allies Elissa was almost never close enough to an enemy for them to hit her. Even on the rare occasions when they were none ever landed a hit on her. Whenever they struck out she slipped past their attack earning her the nickname "Unscathed Elissa."
On a sidenote: Elissa is probably adopted.
Alecsander Hawke: Champion of Kirkwall and Current Fugative:
Alecsander was a goofy charmer with a heart of gold, an oversized sword and a borderline depraved elf-fetish. Among his redeeming qualities was a fierce, uncompromising loyalty, a burning dedication to freedom and a REALLY big sword.
Since Hawke isn't as much a creation of my imagination as Elissa I don't feel comfortable making up a pre-Kirkwall story and I shouldn't say anything about the plot and Alecsander's choices except that he sided with the mages every time and had a deep respect for the Qunari, taking their side as much as possible as well. In addition Alecsander romanced Merrill exclusively. From the moment he saw her he had eyes for no one else. It took a while for him to convince her that they could work but eventually they came together and let nothing seperate them.
On the battlefield Hawke is always in the front. Though he learned the basics of templar abilities to better understand and briefly pursued the rage of a berserker he never really varied from his twin pursuits of basic offense and defense. Hawke's ultimate goal in any battle is to keep his enemies away from his spellcasting and sharpshooting companions, hopefully in a group around himself. Instead of hiding behing a shield and calling names at his enemies Hawke makes them come to him by making himself seem the biggest threat. When he has gathered them all together his allies unleash a rain of arrows, torrents of fire and storms of ice on his position as Hawke slams the ground, stunning his enemies then charges out of the thick of them to spare himself his ally's wroth.
The Battle:
Bent low, Hawke charges Elissa, sword scrapping the weed-choked tiles. As he reaches her he snaps his whole body up, his sword roars as it slashes up from his thigh lightening fast. It catches only air. Hawke looks around confused, sword held defensively, waiting for her to strike. Sensing something coming he spins and strikes at their, again he contacts nothing. The trepidation rising in Hawke is quickly replaced by pain as a arrow pierces the meat of his calve from behind. It flys into his leg and rips out the other side, embedding itself in the ground. If he doesn't move Hawke knows she will hav e him and, in desperation, the rips the arrow from his leg and rolls away. Four arrows whish past him, missing by a hair's breathe. The fifth arrow catches him in the hand. In disbelief he watches as it rips one finger free after another. They spiral through the air trailing streams of Hawke's bright blood. Hawke leaps behind a pillar and crouches there. With quick motions he removes an Elfroot potion from his bag. Briefly preparing himself for the bitter taste, he closes his eyes then, in a moment of decision, he quaffs the whole bottle. Almost instantly his hand and leg have regrown. With his newly repair hand Hawke grasps the hilt of his greatsword and holds them emty bottle in the other. With a leonine roar Hawke leaps from behind the pillar expecting to immediately spot tohe almost-black skin and perfectly maintained hair that gave her away. She was nowhere to be seen. Slowly Hawke puts down the bottle that he had intended to throw at her for a moment's distraction. Hawke felt an arrow pass through his shoulder than another one through hs heart. Using the tiny bit left of the magic. Conciosness if faiding away from Hawke, it souldn't slike isablella
#285
Posté 01 juin 2011 - 05:55
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Hawke, because the combat mechanics DICTATE! But seriously my Warden will give Hawke a good run. It will be a tie, and then they will have sexual combat afterward, doesn't matter on sexual preference, they are too good not to make whoopy.
#286
Posté 01 juin 2011 - 08:37
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My mage warden Malcome Amell shows his second cousin mage Garrett Hawke what it truely means to be an Amell.
And after defeating him in a nice spar.
Hawke and Amell both go to blow up a another chantry for the lulz. As they are both chantry haters and pro-imperium people.
And after defeating him in a nice spar.
Hawke and Amell both go to blow up a another chantry for the lulz. As they are both chantry haters and pro-imperium people.
#287
Posté 01 juin 2011 - 08:43
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It really depends on the classes. A warrior or rogue Hawke would probably beat a warrior or rogue Warden. A mage Hawke could probably beat a warrior or rogue Warden. A mage Warden would beat just about anything Hawke could dish out.
#288
Posté 01 juin 2011 - 08:53
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My Wardens would win easily over Hawke. All they would have to do is wait for an opening in one of Hawke's comedicly bad attack animations, leaping, spinning and constantly turning his/her back to opponents.
Then...sadly, Bioware would re-write the fight scene to make Hawke win no matter what, bending lore of outright breaking it just so DA 3 can be made.
Then...sadly, Bioware would re-write the fight scene to make Hawke win no matter what, bending lore of outright breaking it just so DA 3 can be made.
#289
Posté 01 juin 2011 - 09:03
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Hawke would win. Why? Cause he has pirate Isabela on his side. Don't mess with pirates!
#290
Posté 01 juin 2011 - 09:10
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In game? The Warden, obviously. If Hawke is a mage, mana clash=bye bye. Also, arcane warrior.
The Warden can dual wield as a warrior, using spirit warrior would ignore Hawke's armour and deal multiple 300+ damage attacks every couple of seconds. The Warden as a rogue: stealth.
Not in game? The Warden obviously. Just look at their claims to fame:
Hawke: I killed a Qunari!
Warden: I am the only being in existence to survive the slaying of an Old God!
The Warden can dual wield as a warrior, using spirit warrior would ignore Hawke's armour and deal multiple 300+ damage attacks every couple of seconds. The Warden as a rogue: stealth.
Not in game? The Warden obviously. Just look at their claims to fame:
Hawke: I killed a Qunari!
Warden: I am the only being in existence to survive the slaying of an Old God!
#291
Posté 01 juin 2011 - 10:21
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Warden. AW + battlemage + blood mage, duh! 100 magic, 45 con, and 35 dex? Yeah okay. GL Hawke.
#292
Posté 01 juin 2011 - 03:24
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Lol at the people that think Hawke even stands a chance, never mind win, again The Warden.
#293
Posté 01 juin 2011 - 05:21
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Brody Hawke (2nd play through) = Brodon "the Warden" (1st play through) > Landon "the warden (2nd play through) > Logan Hawke (1st play through)
But Brodon is already dead so i guess Brody Hawke wins
But Brodon is already dead so i guess Brody Hawke wins
#294
Posté 01 juin 2011 - 05:25
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Mage Hawke vs rouge or warrior Warden = Mage Hawke wins.
Warrior/rouge hawke vs Warrior/rouge warden= Warden wins.
Mage Warden vs Any Hawke = Warden easily.
Also light spoiler Human Mage Warden is Hawke's second cousin.
Warrior/rouge hawke vs Warrior/rouge warden= Warden wins.
Mage Warden vs Any Hawke = Warden easily.
Also light spoiler Human Mage Warden is Hawke's second cousin.
#295
Posté 01 juin 2011 - 05:34
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Mecher3k wrote...
Lol at the people that think Hawke even stands a chance, never mind win, again The Warden.
Says:In reality. Wouldn't Hawke win beause he is more faster than The Warden and his slow attacks? If both are present in DA3 (not likely but let's just go with it for argument's sake) and both have the same speed of attacks, then I guess who would win would go down to how they have been leveled up and who has the better gear etc.
#296
Posté 01 juin 2011 - 06:00
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Hawke.
My Warden does all kinds of preparations, strategy, tactics, potions, etc.
Hawke uses Awesome Button.
Hawke wins.
My Warden does all kinds of preparations, strategy, tactics, potions, etc.
Hawke uses Awesome Button.
Hawke wins.
#297
Posté 01 juin 2011 - 07:19
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AwesomeEffect2 wrote...
Hawke: I RESCUED FLEMETH FROM YOU AND I SLAUGHTERED YOUR ENTIRE CLAN! Oh, later I even killed a friend of yours who had deep romantic feelings for you when you were young!
Warden: D': MOTHERF@#$%R!
See, that would just make my Dalish Warden mad. Mad enough to have Anders (or Wynne, if she's still kicking) revive Hawke after being killed the first time just so she could kill him/her all over again.
Mahariel has killed an archdemon, the Architect, the Mother, scores of blood mages, Loghain, Flemeth (at least temporarily) and a few high dragons. To paraphrase, well, the Grey Warden herself, hundreds have died in her wake. Hawke would be just a number.
#299
Posté 01 juin 2011 - 07:39
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Warden counteracts anything Hawke can do because of restorative cooldowns.
Hawke gets 1. Warden can spam all day till supply is exhausted.
Hawke presses awesome button, warden heals and begins to wear down Hawke's HP. Wash rinse repeat. I can take this position because I spent a lot of time like this in Origins on my first nightmare playthrough.
Hawke gets 1. Warden can spam all day till supply is exhausted.
Hawke presses awesome button, warden heals and begins to wear down Hawke's HP. Wash rinse repeat. I can take this position because I spent a lot of time like this in Origins on my first nightmare playthrough.
#300
Posté 01 juin 2011 - 07:42
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My Warden's got a good five or ten levels on Hawke, so she's the clear winner.
