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Hawke vs. Warden: who would win and why?


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darklordpocky-san

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considering Reina can freeze entire rooms of enemies, heal herself, and summon up giant firestorms. . . I'm betting Warden Reina Amell

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I'll just flip a coin

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Darthnemesis2

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EscherEnigma wrote...

On another note, this reminds me of a conversation I overheard in a bar in Amaranthine:

Drunk 1: Who do you think would win in a fight, Andraste or the Archdemon?
Drunk 2: The Archdemon.
Drunk 1: Ah, but Andraste could call on the Maker!
Drunk 2: But that would be cheating. You're not calling Andraste a dirty cheater, are you?
Drunk 1: Well, she did cheat on her husband.


Best conversation ever. :wizard:

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darklordpocky-san wrote...

considering Reina can freeze entire rooms of enemies, heal herself, and summon up giant firestorms. . . I'm betting Warden Reina Amell


And this Reina is a DAO mage I take it? What type of Champion is she fighting? A Hawke Mage could cast first. A Templar Hawke could rape Reina by casting silence and constantly knocking you down as well.

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Both will fall before Batman

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Dridengx wrote...

darklordpocky-san wrote...

considering Reina can freeze entire rooms of enemies, heal herself, and summon up giant firestorms. . . I'm betting Warden Reina Amell


And this Reina is a DAO mage I take it? What type of Champion is she fighting? A Hawke Mage could cast first. A Templar Hawke could rape Reina by casting silence and constantly knocking you down as well.


Except, the entirety of the races of Ferelden are also at the beck and call of the Warden...

So yeah, ya died.

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My Neria Surana would stomp Hawke and the entire DA2 party into a bloody mudhole before moving on to taking Kirkwall for herself.  Shimmering Shield is a ****.

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My cannon Mage would totally win, if he had survived the battle of Denerim. Reason y? My Mage was a master at primal and a master swordsman; and factor in hes an Arcane Worrier/Shapeshifter/Blood Mage. I think it would be rather one sided.

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The warden will win hands down. as a Grey Warden he (or she) and enhanced physical abilities that Hawke doesn't. i am not comparing their powers in game but a hypothetical scenario. plus no matter what the origins maybe (except maybe city elf) the warden is a highly trained hardened warrior, hawke on the other hand fled lothering like a little b*tch (sorry for the language but its true). on thop of that, the warden killed the archdemon for crying out loud!

even if we look at party members, the ones in origins are much much superior than in DAII. i mean morrigan or wynne could wipe the floor with merril though anders might fare a little better. in terms of rogues well Isabella does have a edge but then lilena and zevran are not far behind (varic i think sucks). sten and fenris would be an even match but aveline would not be able to match Alistair or orgren.
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My warden is freakishly over powered and my Hawke isnt even real yet.

So My warden.

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My Warden. It would be a rough fight though.

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vaidya.abhishek wrote...

The warden will win hands down. as a Grey Warden he (or she) and enhanced physical abilities that Hawke doesn't. i am not comparing their powers in game but a hypothetical scenario. plus no matter what the origins maybe (except maybe city elf) the warden is a highly trained hardened warrior, hawke on the other hand fled lothering like a little b*tch (sorry for the language but its true). on thop of that, the warden killed the archdemon for crying out loud!

even if we look at party members, the ones in origins are much much superior than in DAII. i mean morrigan or wynne could wipe the floor with merril though anders might fare a little better. in terms of rogues well Isabella does have a edge but then lilena and zevran are not far behind (varic i think sucks). sten and fenris would be an even match but aveline would not be able to match Alistair or orgren.


Actually, Alistair, while a warden, has the training of a humble templar, while Aveline got the training of one of those chevalairs as loghain, a man above all others once said.  Plus she is a front line fighter, and she survived Ostagar, assuming she wasn't with Loghain, that's a nice feat, although the same could be said about Carver and maybe Hawke, depending on the class. That punk Alistair got plucked from a tower, Aveline was on the ground

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Do we know what characters were in Loghain's army and which were at the battle...?

Plus, even though the Warden and Alistair were plucked from the tower... they completely took back the tower from an army of Darkspawn.

Modifié par night0205, 06 mars 2011 - 09:22 .


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invertedknife

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Kopawapatezi wrote...

vaidya.abhishek wrote...

The warden will win hands down. as a Grey Warden he (or she) and enhanced physical abilities that Hawke doesn't. i am not comparing their powers in game but a hypothetical scenario. plus no matter what the origins maybe (except maybe city elf) the warden is a highly trained hardened warrior, hawke on the other hand fled lothering like a little b*tch (sorry for the language but its true). on thop of that, the warden killed the archdemon for crying out loud!

even if we look at party members, the ones in origins are much much superior than in DAII. i mean morrigan or wynne could wipe the floor with merril though anders might fare a little better. in terms of rogues well Isabella does have a edge but then lilena and zevran are not far behind (varic i think sucks). sten and fenris would be an even match but aveline would not be able to match Alistair or orgren.


Actually, Alistair, while a warden, has the training of a humble templar, while Aveline got the training of one of those chevalairs as loghain, a man above all others once said.  Plus she is a front line fighter, and she survived Ostagar, assuming she wasn't with Loghain, that's a nice feat, although the same could be said about Carver and maybe Hawke, depending on the class. That punk Alistair got plucked from a tower, Aveline was on the ground


might i add that even though aveline was trained by chevalairs, she never was a knight. alistair on the other hand was the son of the Legendary King Maric and as a potential heir was trained so he may stand his ground and protect the bloodline.  He also was a grey warden and thus must have been an extremely amazing warrior as the Grand Cleric will not let him go and that Duncan wanted him so bad that he invoked the Right to Conscription. He also had a lot of experience as a grey Warden and porbably had more control over his taint. Duncan prefered him for a reason.

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If for nothing else that Morrigan would be underhand and kick Hawke in the nuts before the fight started Posted Image
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#166
Nayt Navare

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Warden, and here's a few pieces of evidence-

Warden>Flemeth>Hawke. Thank about it.

In around 2 years, the Warden (gasp for air)-
stops a civil war
stops a blight
breaks a curse on elves
saves a noble family
regains/exorcizes a fortress
finds and elusive witch
kills a bunch of golems and a harvester, saving some dudes brother
GETS A TEAM OF DIFFERENT VIEWED CHARACTERS AND CAN MAKE THEM ALL LOYAL 100% BY THE END
avenges a loss in the blight (return to Ostagar)
Cleanses a tower filled with abominations
elects a dwarven king

All in 2 years.

It takes hawke TEN to - go on an expedition, deal with a mage/templar war and stop a bunch of Qunari- And I'm pretty sure the Warden views the Qunari as nothing special for a reason ;)


There; Imperical evidence

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night0205 wrote...

How do you save Vigil's Keep and Armranthine?

you completely upgrade vigils keep and choose to sae armeranthine at end so technecly saving bothPosted Image

#168
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Chuck Norris would win. Chuck Norris always wins.

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Oghren pwns all.

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My dual wielding warrior/berzerker/reaver/templar/spirit warrior who is pretty much immune to magic and physical attacks who defeated flemeth/high dragon/harvester/mother/architect/arch demon/queen of the marsh and didnt even take a scratch from loghain...... vs hawke??? Umm yea hawke better have all of kirkwall with him

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Hawke. S/he can move 10x faster than the Warden during battle. Not to mention the Chuck Norris roundhouse. Can't beat that.

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Hawke because he doesn't shuffle for 5 minuets before engaging combat.

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My warden.. simply because I've played him much longer. We're talking hundreds of hours.

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Dridengx wrote...

People seem to be using their old 'stats' vs none for Hawke since they have not created him, being not far. They seemed to have failed to consider Hawke attacks much quicker being from DA2 with the new combat system lol as well as having new skills. Hawke can kill the Grey Warden because not only is he faster but he has upgradable skills and spells.

Yeah and Hawke doesn't randomly miss due to crappy dice rolls, and he doesn't have to always get in one certain position & distance for fighting.

I can't see how people think the Origins fighting system is better really... :blush:

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The Warden had his way with Isabela first so I think that means he wins by default