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[olivier leroux]

While playing a community module I've encountered the weirdest bug I've ever seen in NWN. All of a sudden, transitions wouldn't work when I clicked on them, NPCs and henchmen wouldn't speak to me anymore and when I used the radial to give commands like "Follow Me" noone listened, not even my familiar. I was still able to run to around by clicking on the floor though. It all felt like like a timed-out internet connection or serious lag on a server - but I was playing a SP module offline...

Even weirder, when I loaded a savegame of a different community module, the issues persisted. Only when I restarted NWN everything went back to normal. I loaded a savegame of the first module, the one where the issues had risen, and played on until I reached the spot where things had gone wrong, a conversation, a fight, and after that it all happened again. So I assume it's connected to something in this module - but what could that be? Any idea what could cause NWN to act in such a strange way that the issue persists until the whole game is restarted?

Modifié par olivier leroux, 06 mars 2011 - 09:37 .

[Shadooow]

nope, havent seen this yet...

give us more iformations about that module, name, required haks, exact spot where it happens, and best to provide a savegame before it happens

Modifié par ShaDoOoW, 06 mars 2011 - 11:27 .

[jmlzemaggo]

The same issue happened to me while playing a 2010 module recently, amazing the number of people playing 2010's modules actually... Even to your henchy point though. I reloaded or maybe quited and everything went back to normal, as you said.
I'm getting highly suspicious around that particular module you were, and maybe I, playing.
Now, for the safe of the community, I hereby command you to say the name of it, to have its author facing... our thanks for making a module, but our concern about freeing it of some bug...
If it's a 2010's one, my usual bablings would make surprisingly a lot of sense.
For a change.
I couldn't remember the name, but obviously, you can.
Again, as ShaDoOoW was saying, it's only for the sake of us all.

[jmlzemaggo]

What is in some inn, first floor, where an undead boss is waiting for you, last room on the right?
(I still have a "bug" screenshot...)

Modifié par jmlzemaggo, 06 mars 2011 - 12:52 .

[olivier leroux]

Yep, that's the one.

Challenge of the Overfiend (HotU, no haks required)

Scanning the comments on the Vault page I see that other players had trouble at the exact same spot, too, and the author is aware of a glitch, according to the update notes:

"9.The Abandoned Inn in Edenbrook had a strange glitch where it wouldn't allow you to leave the 2nd level without saving and reloading the game. I reconnected the transition so it should now work properly."

But it doesn't work properly and it's got to be something worse than just wrongly connected transitions. So far players have only reported the transition not working but like I said, it also concerns the options to speak to NPCs or command henchmen and it's not restricted to just one module after the damage is done; in my case, I had to restart NWN to get rid of that glitch ...

(Actually you *can* leave the 2nd level, the transition works alright at first, but only until you meet the undead boss, talk to him and fight him.)

Modifié par olivier leroux, 06 mars 2011 - 01:30 .

[Lightfoot8]

Question: Did all this happen without using any overrides? If you where using overrides could you try the spot again without then too see if it still happens.

[olivier leroux]

I did use my usual set of overrides (1.69, Ravenloft GUI, Kamiryn's Customize Character & Unlocked Voicesets & Portraits) but I've never experienced any issues with those before. And in fact, when I tried it with a completely empty override folder just now, I was still able to recreate the bug/glitch. So the overrides don't seem to be the problem here ...

[jmlzemaggo]

The override is rarely the problem. I have been playing with the same only one for... months.
Years?

[Lightfoot8]

I just fought the boss on the first floor and had no glitches. So I am at a loss right now. Ill look at the scripts later and see if they give some other insight.

[olivier leroux]

Did you fight him on your own or with the help of the two henchmen you can meet on the way? Just wondering, in case you just quickly playtested that specific area (as I wouldn't expect you to play from the beginning just to recreate the glitch) - could it be the error is introduced earlier in the module, by some settings/variables or by any henchmen or items that the PC gathers before entering the inn?

[jmlzemaggo]

I never saw anything like that.

[Lightfoot8]

Ok, This was an odd one.  As best as i can tell it is being caused by a corrupted script. My best guess is that it is throwing the stack pointer off on the stack that the scripts are placed onto.

Anyway the script is krane.ncs & .nss corupted. 
I uploaded a temp fix of the .NCS file that you can place in your override folder   This is just a blank script to keep the corrupted one from running.  
Download File

He also has errors in the following scripts. 
azzuthenalkill.nss 
greedcombo.nss 
ivanaiscript.nss
leavingwatercave.nss 

None of then should cause problems like the other one did.  I am just including them encase you where going to make a bug report on the vault. 

*hangs his head and  cringes, Waiting for the angry responce as he states.*  I still dont have an account on the vault,  that is the reason i'm not making the report.

[jmlzemaggo]

Good job, Lightfoot8.
Now, let's Olivier make it. That's is baby.

[TimG]

I posted some queries about this module on the vault the other day and got a response pretty quickly so I'd say the author's still keeping up with fixes. The module's pretty fun when it works right. There's still room for polish but it's getting there.

[jmlzemaggo]

It's a fine module, but there is a lot of work to be done in it.
Still, it's a very interesting and rare one to play an epic paladin, and quite funny as well.
Very H&S.

Modifié par jmlzemaggo, 08 mars 2011 - 05:29 .

[olivier leroux]

Thanks a lot, Lightfoot8! I forwarded your analysis to the module author.

[petersmith]

No I have never seen it.

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[MrZork]

At least the way it's described, it sounds just a tiny bit like a bug that occurs with shapechange spells and shifter/wildshape feats. I haven't played this mod, but I am just double-checking that nothing like that is going on, either with this character specifically or via cut-scene...

Modifié par MrZork, 10 mars 2011 - 06:20 .

[HipMaestro]

I have also experienced this or something very similar (lost transitions, etc.) in the original Bio campaign, but it was unpatched at the time.  Also, it didn't persist as in the OP's description.  Apparently, the reload action somehow purged the error and it went away,  But I remember such a gliche happening a few more times albeit rarely and NEVER after updating the engine to v1.69.

It reminds me of a bug where I somehow get my PC into an area, a seemingly benign walking area and can no longer move it.  It will rest, cast spells or whatever other actions but I am unable to dislodge it from the the "stuck" zone with either mouse, keypad or arrow pad.  Reload fixes it though and seems to move the PC very slightly on the grid.

What is particularly alarming about the OP's bug is Lightfoot's description of script actually rearranging the way the stack is accessed that persists in other modules, so I have a question for any who have experienced this testing the module in question:  Did you try to start/play any of the standard Bio campaign modules to see if this bug was expressed in them at any point?  Since these modules/scripts are all vanilla, it would be important, at least for me, to understand the dynamics which are at work to cause this to affect how the base game performs.

Modifié par HipMaestro, 10 mars 2011 - 01:21 .

[olivier leroux]

HipMaestro, I'm sorry for not replying yet. I currently have no means to run NWN, I'll see what I can do for you in a week or so if noone else steps up (I hope I won't forget it).

[TimG]

There's an update on the vault. While I have downloaded it I haven't had a chance to play yet. Damn work...

[Aedansmith]

Sorry, I never watch this.

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[HipMaestro]

Posting error. 
Please ignore.

Modifié par HipMaestro, 25 mars 2011 - 12:55 .