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[Morning808]

A Turkey Frog wrote...

Does anyone acutally trust Game Informer? I don't.

I trust them more then almost any other game reviews...only other one I usally agree with is X-play and even they I disagree with usally

[Saibh]

Bio-Boy 3000 wrote...

Metacritic is a cause, not the cure, for the ridiculous rating system that is in place for video games.

I don't know, I generally agree with the Metacritic score, objectively. Even if I dislike a game, I understand that my personal tastes play in. I understand that some people really enjoy Gears of War, and that, for the type of game it is, it's really good. I don't like it. But that doesn't change that I think that a 94 is a fair score for that game. I don't like FF, but, even objectively I thought it was pretty mediocre. An 83 is fair.

Besides that, I can usually judge accordingly.. If the review is high, I will probably like the game, unless I hate the genre. I may have a 10 point margin of error either way, but I'll probably like it. An 80 is a good score, and I might think it's a 90 if I really like that genre, or I might dislike it if I don't. A very high score probably warrants a playthrough unless I despise that genre with a passion.

And so on. I don't think reviews are without their merits, nor aggregators.

[ShadowTelik]

Really don't care about review scores for games, if i did then i would never play a dynasty warriors game again, but i love them lol.

[KrashLog]

TwistedComplex wrote...

Phaydon wrote...
I predict Skyrim will blow these numbers by a much larger margin...

Is that your logic talking, or the hype talking?

Both.

[StarcloudSWG]

To be honest, I don't care about what a review's "score" is. No game scores below a seven unless the game is actually unplayable, so right there at least five points on a ten point scale are utterly worthless. The opinions and impressions of the reviewer matter far more than the "score". So does the reviewer's history and known bias.

[TEWR]

They're critics, what do you expect? Most critics are biased and find faults in anything and everything, and that's why I only read the reviews to see what they said. It's a time-killer, not something that sways my opinion of a game.

Unless the game was absolutely ****ty, like below a 5. Like 50 Cent Bulletproof. Oh god I tremble at the thought of seeing that game again. When I first got my PS2 that was one of the first games I got, and first time through it was decent (I was a youngling at the time, so I couldn't accurately rate a game on the epicosity scale). Recently I went to try playing it again, and I nearly puked at how horrible it was. Then I put in Ghost in the Shell:Stand Alone Complex for the PS2 and was happy again. That was an amazing game, although it had some funny controls, but still amazing.

Wait.... what was this topic about again? Oh yea. Game informer reviews to me are just sneak previews of some stuff in the game, and I don't take their scores and opinions seriously, unless as I said the game gets below a 5.

[bloodransom]

umm just for clarifications sake they havent submitted a review anywhere on there wbsite soooo i dunno where the op got his info.

[vengerturtle]

I actually still have my GI mags, and yep, the gave Origins on PC a 9 and Awakening on PC a 7.25. So according to them, not as good as Origins, but better than Awakening. You'll have to judge how your taste matches up with theirs. I take it the OP has gotten their GI mag in the mail, I'm still waiting for this month's issue though.

ETA: I always use reviews as a way to learn more about the game. I don't necessarily pay attention to the score, I just like reading what they write in them, what worked for them and what didn't, etc. The content of the review is more important for me than the score is.

Modifié par missnicolec, 07 mars 2011 - 02:02 .

[Saibh]

missnicolec wrote...

I actually still have my GI mags, and yep, the gave Origins on PC a 9 and Awakening on PC a 7.25. So according to them, not as good as Origins, but better than Awakening. You'll have to judge how your taste matches up with theirs. I take it the OP has gotten their GI mag in the mail, I'm still waiting for this month's issue though.

ETA: I always use reviews as a way to learn more about the game. I don't necessarily pay attention to the score, I just like reading what they write in them, what worked for them and what didn't, etc. The content of the review is more important for me than the score is.

And they rated the console version an 8.

But, once again, this review appears to be illegitimate. The reviews don't release until tomorrow. There's a possible leak, but the OP hasn't returned to tell us where he got it from, so it's hard to say.

[panamakira]

Well didn't they give DA:O an 8? That means DA2 was better for them.

[vengerturtle]

Saibh wrote...

And they rated the console version an 8.

But, once again, this review appears to be illegitimate. The reviews don't release until tomorrow. There's a possible leak, but the OP hasn't returned to tell us where he got it from, so it's hard to say.

I posted while the forum was buggy and other posts appeared so I didn't get to read them all.  I'd say since the OP vanished, it was probably trolling, but people get their magazines in the mail at different times, so. Seems a lot of people don't care for GI's reviews anyway

[Saibh]

missnicolec wrote...

I posted while the forum was buggy and other posts appeared so I didn't get to read them all.  I'd say since the OP vanished, it was probably trolling, but people get their magazines in the mail at different times, so. Seems a lot of people don't care for GI's reviews anyway

There's a post a few pages back where the reviewer was quoted saying the reviews don't come out until tomorrow. I take that to mean this is illegitimate.

[sunnn]

Don't you know? DAO was RPG of the year and got lots of GOTYs.

Check!   http://gotypicks.blo...me-of-year.html

[Reconfire89]

PC Gamer and Official Xbox Magazine gave it a 9.4 and a 9, respectively; in the PC Gamer pod-cast, the reviewer spoke about the game with a genuine enthusiasm, too.

Seeing as this hasn't been seen anywhere else on the internet, and considering the profile of a release like Dragon Age II, I'd say that this can't be assumed legitimate without proof.

Let's save complaints until we have a full array of reviews, and Dragon Age II in our hands. Even then, we're all here because we appreciate BioWare's games, and I challenge you to name a bad title by them.

[vengerturtle]

Saibh wrote...

missnicolec wrote...

I posted while the forum was buggy and other posts appeared so I didn't get to read them all.  I'd say since the OP vanished, it was probably trolling, but people get their magazines in the mail at different times, so. Seems a lot of people don't care for GI's reviews anyway

There's a post a few pages back where the reviewer was quoted saying the reviews don't come out until tomorrow. I take that to mean this is illegitimate.

The forum finally loaded and I got to it Thank you. I am looking forward to the reviews that come out, not for the score but so that I can read what the reviewers think. I like it for the same reason I come into posts like these - I like reading people's thoughts, even if I don't agree with them/plan to take them to heart.

[PrinceOfFallout13]

Reconfire89 wrote...

PC Gamer and Official Xbox Magazine gave it a 9.4 and a 9, respectively; in the PC Gamer pod-cast, the reviewer spoke about the game with a genuine enthusiasm, too.

Seeing as this hasn't been seen anywhere else on the internet, and considering the profile of a release like Dragon Age II, I'd say that this can't be assumed legitimate without proof.

Let's save complaints until we have a full array of reviews, and Dragon Age II in our hands. Even then, we're all here because we appreciate BioWare's games, and I challenge you to name a bad title by them.

people would say jade empire but i dont thats my fav game of all time by them (then kotor,me series and the da series)

[Reconfire89]

Jade Empire is 'bad' in the same way Half Life 2: Episode 1 is 'bad.

It isn't bad, it's just a weaker link in a strong package. My ass of a friend, for example, implied that Jade Empire and Dragon Age were games that BioWare makes to tide over financially the years between Mass Effect game.

Truth be told, I don't think he's ever played Jade Empire or Dragon Age, and I'd be willing to make this generalisation of anyone who judges them as so.

A lot of people base their opinions on reviews, and how well known the game in question is. I'd definitely say there's a trend in the popularity to high opinions ratio.

People that came along because of Mass Effect will look at Jade Empire reviews and not play it, because of them. They'll still talk about how it's not a great game though, because they're pretentious and think they know best.

This ass friend also suggested that BioWare was a 'one-trick pony'. Saying that if they didn't make a pure Shooter or something soon he'd lose all respect for them. I'm not quite sure how creating numerous well-written and deep RPG games with tons of different lore and characters makes them a one-trick pony, or how making a pure Shooter would achieve any of the revelations BioWare have pioneered with their previous games.

I think that sadly this ass opinion is one that's widely shared by a lot of the people brought in solely by the Mass Effect games.

[Aapheus]

There was a lot to like in Jade Empire. The only thing that seriously hurt the game, imo, was the combat mechanics -- fighting just kind of got boring about a third of the way into the game.

[Night Prowler76]

Phaydon wrote...

TwistedComplex wrote...
Uh. No. Fallout 3 outsold every eldar scrolls by magnitudes

I can't find exact sale figures but...

Oblivion : "over 3.1 million copies by January 2007"
Fallout 3 : "over 4.7 million units by the end of 2008"

I'm not seeing "orders of magnitudes" here, just better marketing, better technology/game and overall reflects the gaming industry sale increases. I predict Skyrim will blow these numbers by a much larger margin...

And also you have to consider the amount of consoles that were on the market when the games were released, Oblivion was released less than a year after the Xbox 360 came to market.  I think you will see some huge numbers for Skyrim, likely 6+ million.

@ TwistedComplex, its hard to compare the sales because of the install base of consoloes at the time, Id say if you took into account the amount of consoles on the market, both games were about even.

[Foxd1e]

StarcloudSWG wrote...

To be honest ... No game scores below a seven unless the game is actually unplayable...

It's funny you mention that because I brought up the same point when DAO was about to be released and the same knot heads were going nuts over leaked scores. Since people needed proof I actually used Gamespot as my test site and took all their reviews ever and organized them by ratings...

Here's a fun fact out of over 6,000+ game reviews only about 100 games scored below a 5 on Gamespot. You tell me, is the reviewer scale balanced? If half the scale is never used how valid is the rating system?

I'm of the same opinion as a few other wise people in this thread. Buy the game or don't but the only review you should listen to is your own.

[RohanD]

LOL@ "8.25 is a ten in my books"

[Foxd1e]

Reconfire89 wrote...

Jade Empire is 'bad' in the same way Half Life 2: Episode 1 is 'bad.

It isn't bad, it's just a weaker link in a strong package. My ass of a friend, for example, implied that Jade Empire and Dragon Age were games that BioWare makes to tide over financially the years between Mass Effect game.

Truth be told, I don't think he's ever played Jade Empire or Dragon Age, and I'd be willing to make this generalisation of anyone who judges them as so.

A lot of people base their opinions on reviews, and how well known the game in question is. I'd definitely say there's a trend in the popularity to high opinions ratio.

People that came along because of Mass Effect will look at Jade Empire reviews and not play it, because of them. They'll still talk about how it's not a great game though, because they're pretentious and think they know best.

This ass friend also suggested that BioWare was a 'one-trick pony'. Saying that if they didn't make a pure Shooter or something soon he'd lose all respect for them. I'm not quite sure how creating numerous well-written and deep RPG games with tons of different lore and characters makes them a one-trick pony, or how making a pure Shooter would achieve any of the revelations BioWare have pioneered with their previous games.

I think that sadly this ass opinion is one that's widely shared by a lot of the people brought in solely by the Mass Effect games.

Ok Bioware is a phenominal game developer and one of my favorites, after reading your story about your ass of a friend   I was inspired to share this interesting opinion I learned on one of  Bethesdas game's forums, this guy was praising the heck out of all the Elderscrolls games, and the Fallout games, and this whole thread full of people were just bashing Bioware's games. 

However I just want to focus on the post of one certain individual, who was praising Bethesda's games on strongpoints that they blatantely don't have, mainly story, combat and character interaction, which in my opinion are definitely more Bioware strongpoints then Bethesda.

Anyways then he comes out with the big guns, he was ranting how he just had to get out of this very forum, because he was physically disgusted and nauseated by Bioware fans, because apparantely out of any game that has a loyal fanbase apparently our forums are overrun with people in love with Bioware, who can't criticize or take criticism of a Bioware game, and he was happy to be among Bethesda fans who know when to criticize a game. 

Well you know what, I couldn't help but smile when I happened along his post, didn't even dignify it with a response.  My apologies for taking things OT, anyways enjoy everyone, we've earned a reputation on the net 

So now there's two types of serious fans, there's Bioware fans, and there's Starwars Fans, wait a minute... what happens when you get a Bioware Starwars game?! ;)

Modifié par Foxd1e, 07 mars 2011 - 05:37 .

[The Greye Hawke]

Morning808 wrote...

A Turkey Frog wrote...

Does anyone acutally trust Game Informer? I don't.

I trust them more then almost any other game reviews...only other one I usally agree with is X-play and even they I disagree with usally

I usually listen to them xplay too.  They always seem right about it. 

[Dridengx]

score doesn't concern me. I've enjoyed games that were reviewed as low at 6.0

[Reconfire89]

Foxd1e wrote...

Ok Bioware is a phenominal game developer and one of my favorites, after reading your story about your ass of a friend   I was inspired to share this interesting opinion I learned on one of  Bethesdas game's forums, this guy was praising the heck out of all the Elderscrolls games, and the Fallout games, and this whole thread full of people were just bashing Bioware's games. 

However I just want to focus on the post of one certain individual, who was praising Bethesda's games on strongpoints that they blatantely don't have, mainly story, combat and character interaction, which in my opinion are definitely more Bioware strongpoints then Bethesda.

Anyways then he comes out with the big guns, he was ranting how he just had to get out of this very forum, because he was physically disgusted and nauseated by Bioware fans, because apparantely out of any game that has a loyal fanbase apparently our forums are overrun with people in love with Bioware, who can't criticize or take criticism of a Bioware game, and he was happy to be among Bethesda fans who know when to criticize a game. 

Well you know what, I couldn't help but smile when I happened along his post, didn't even dignify it with a response. Anyways my apologies for taking things OT, anyways enjoy everyone, we've earned a reputation on the net 

It's weird, man, 'cause all I see around here are complaints and criticisms.

Ironically, it doesn't honestly seem like he's any better than a pretentious fanboy himself, as not only was he praising Bethesda, he was also praising the fanbase, and proclaiming Bethesda as being capable in places where their games are weakest.

Story, Character and Combat especially so.

Opinions are opinons, and I have no beef with them, but when people start claiming opinion as fact, it's something that really annoys me.

But also, fans are fans for a reason, and if there's a huge fanbase that defend and deflect criticisms, it's probably for a pretty damn good reason.

In my personal opinion, Oblivion was not a great game. I played maybe 4 hours, and the user menus and interfaces drove me crazy, the lack of story and innovation kept me at a distance and the combat didn't feel too fun. The thing is, it didn't make up for this by pushing me to play in different ways.

If I said that on the Bethesda forums, I'd get flamed, and told I have no soul. They wouldn't just say "Yeah, okay, opinions are opinions and I'mma really happy for you for having your opinions.".

My ass friend liked Oblivion and told me that I had no soul, for not liking it. So maybe there's a pattern, here.

Modifié par Reconfire89, 07 mars 2011 - 05:56 .