After watching the trailers and playing the demo for DA2 i dont see why everyone thinks the games going suck i know its a major change from the first game. I loved the way the first game was but i still like the new game i think they made risky changes but changes that best help the game thats jsut my thoughts anyway.
Why no faith in Dragon Age 2
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:30
TJPags
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Some people simply don't like the changes that were made.
It's that simple.
It's that simple.
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:30
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People don't like change. They loved DA:O and want this one to be identical. I'll wait til I play it before judgement, though I enjoyed the demo.
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:33
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What TJPags said.
I personally... am simply not passionate enough to work myself up into a rage. My only issue with this game ever? Around the time we figured out the Warden was finished. For now at least. I got over it in a day. So you could consider their fierce dedication another reason to resort to whining/complaining/raging/etc.
I personally... am simply not passionate enough to work myself up into a rage. My only issue with this game ever? Around the time we figured out the Warden was finished. For now at least. I got over it in a day. So you could consider their fierce dedication another reason to resort to whining/complaining/raging/etc.
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:34
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Hey at least this board isn't infested with trolls.
People want Origins 2. Instead we are getting Dragon Age 2. That's why you have the complainers.
People want Origins 2. Instead we are getting Dragon Age 2. That's why you have the complainers.
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:35
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Might be some sort of trickle-down effect from the devs. Seeing how origins was terrible and all, and thus propagating all these cool new changes.
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:35
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It's not exactly the same as Origins, so it has to be awful.
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:36
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scootermcgaffin wrote...
It's not exactly the same as Origins, so it has to be awful.
Or you can accept over the top reasoning like this.
Whatever floats your boat.
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:37
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yes why stripping of all the RPG parts that made DAO so fun?
I cant equip my compagnions?? WTF?
I cant equip my compagnions?? WTF?
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:41
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I think that with all the changes they've made in for DA2 it's almost like it's not a true sequel. You have a framed narrative, Qunari have horns, you don't have your Warden nor can you play as another race. Those are just a few of the big changes. DA:O was RPG of the year, and many are going to be of the opinion "Why fix what ain't broke?".
I think if you approach this game not as a sequel, but as a game based on the Dragon Age Universe you will appreciate it more. That way when things are not familiar it's no big deal, and when they are it's a pleasant surprise. Bioware has always had great writers, so I am looking forward to the story if anything.
I think if you approach this game not as a sequel, but as a game based on the Dragon Age Universe you will appreciate it more. That way when things are not familiar it's no big deal, and when they are it's a pleasant surprise. Bioware has always had great writers, so I am looking forward to the story if anything.
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:41
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As Morrigan once said, "People fear change. And will fight it with every fiber of their being."
I guess I can see why people would be slow to embrace the changes. I, for one, am incredibly excited for what I believe to be major improvements to the game.
I guess I can see why people would be slow to embrace the changes. I, for one, am incredibly excited for what I believe to be major improvements to the game.
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:41
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Doomsayers trying to get some attention.
There's a reason why game designers get paid, and wannabes go to the forums.
There's a reason why game designers get paid, and wannabes go to the forums.
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:42
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There is faith in DA2. People follow the Chantry, the Qun, Ancestors, Elvenhan...
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:44
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Biotic Budah wrote...
I think that with all the changes they've made in for DA2 it's almost like it's not a true sequel. You have a framed narrative, Qunari have horns, you don't have your Warden nor can you play as another race. Those are just a few of the big changes. DA:O was RPG of the year, and many are going to be of the opinion "Why fix what ain't broke?".
I think if you approach this game not as a sequel, but as a game based on the Dragon Age Universe you will appreciate it more. That way when things are not familiar it's no big deal, and when they are it's a pleasant surprise. Bioware has always had great writers, so I am looking forward to the story if anything.
I don't think it really is a sequel. It is, like you said, a game based in the dragon age universe.
And plus, the Warden's story was over. Dragon Age isn't about the warden.
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:44
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Change isn't always good just because it's a change. Sometimes its pointless, unnecessary, or just stupid.
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:44
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Like Morrigan said in Witchhunt.
"Change is coming to the world and some people will fight it with every fiber of their being."
Edit. Beat to it by LetsgotoMomshouse.
"Change is coming to the world and some people will fight it with every fiber of their being."
Edit. Beat to it by LetsgotoMomshouse.
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:44
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Boopie-Ne wrote...
There is faith in DA2. People follow the Chantry, the Qun, Ancestors, Elvenhan...
Don't forget Dragon Worship.
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:45
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Because it no longer even remotely resembles Origins.
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:45
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Vit246 wrote...
Change isn't always good just because it's a change. Sometimes its pointless, unnecessary, or just stupid.
Hey hey, why the negativity bro?
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:45
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Boopie-Ne wrote...
There is faith in DA2. People follow the Chantry, the Qun, Ancestors, Elvenhan...
Hahah! I may consider that faith in the Dragon Age universe as a whole.
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:46
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Personal preference. The day that 100% of people like/dislike something is the day that the world collapses in upon itself.
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:46
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Johnsen1972 wrote...
yes why stripping of all the RPG parts that made DAO so fun?
I cant equip my compagnions?? WTF?
You can .. but not every piece of equipment .. as far as i know you can equip them rings, braclets and belts (accessories in general) .. and their armor and weapons as far as i know get upgraded over time.
It isn't really a big deal ... there are many people who didn't like spending half their time playing the menu management game instead of actually enjoying the game itself (every single new item requires you to check all party members gear to make sure it is optimal .. too much of a hassle even for an RPG).
Look .. they wanted to try something new and different with DA2 .. and many people like it (and many others didn't like with all games) .. if you don't like .. simple .. don't buy it or play it .. you still have DA:O and all its expansions.
Biotic Budah wrote...
I think that with all the changes they've made in for DA2 it's almost
like it's not a true sequel.
Depends on your definition of a true sequel .. subjective.
Biotic Budah wrote...
You have a framed narrative, Qunari have
horns, you don't have your Warden nor can you play as another race.
Those are just a few of the big changes. DA:O was RPG of the year
Framed narrative is a big bonus .. it allows your choices to have a more clear pronunced effect .. Qunari always had horns since DA:O .. Stern was a unique Qunari and a special case ... and you don't have to play a warden for it to be DA .. who said so !!!?
Biotic Budah wrote...
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many are going to be of the opinion "Why fix what ain't broke?".
So what is the solution .. keep making the same thing over and over !!!?
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:48
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Such wisdom.Sabariel wrote...
Personal preference. The day that 100% of people like/dislike something is the day that the world collapses in upon itself.
Can I start a religion around your philisophical teachings?
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:48
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Quick version: The game was streamlined.
That's pretty much it, it's been made to be simpler to get into, while Origins had almost every staple and intricacy of its genre. DA2 has made things simpler to appeal to a broader audience and left those that actually enjoy this dying breed of gaming sad at the notion that even the one company that brought them the last strategic party-based inventory-heavy epic in length and scope RPG seem to be abandoning ship.
Simple as that.
That's pretty much it, it's been made to be simpler to get into, while Origins had almost every staple and intricacy of its genre. DA2 has made things simpler to appeal to a broader audience and left those that actually enjoy this dying breed of gaming sad at the notion that even the one company that brought them the last strategic party-based inventory-heavy epic in length and scope RPG seem to be abandoning ship.
Simple as that.
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Posté 06 mars 2011 - 11:50
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Is it so hard for people to accept that some people simply do not like the changes made?
Why must it be a "People fear change?" or a "it's not exactly like Origins" thing.
As an example, I don't like the paraphrase system/dialogue wheel, don't like the carthwheeling rogue combat and the leaping warrior combat. These two things have NOTHING to do with DA2 not being like DAO, except for the fact that DAO didn't have these things. Fallout New Vegas doesn't have them either. Does that mean I dislike DA2 because it's not like FNV?
No, it simply means I don't like dialogue wheels/paraphrase covnersation systems, and I don't like combat that looks like a circus. I don't like them in ANY game.
Please, it's not always a "they changed DA:O!! Those ****s!!" issue. And I wish people would stop acting like it was.
Why must it be a "People fear change?" or a "it's not exactly like Origins" thing.
As an example, I don't like the paraphrase system/dialogue wheel, don't like the carthwheeling rogue combat and the leaping warrior combat. These two things have NOTHING to do with DA2 not being like DAO, except for the fact that DAO didn't have these things. Fallout New Vegas doesn't have them either. Does that mean I dislike DA2 because it's not like FNV?
No, it simply means I don't like dialogue wheels/paraphrase covnersation systems, and I don't like combat that looks like a circus. I don't like them in ANY game.
Please, it's not always a "they changed DA:O!! Those ****s!!" issue. And I wish people would stop acting like it was.
