DA2 does not follow the coveted "Crpg" formula, therefore it is terrible game. Also it is "Dumbed down" for all the rest of us because we are simple minded and our opinions don't matter as much as theirs do.
That's most of the forum posts in a nutshell
I don't want want to generalize though, as their are some people here who just don't like some of the changes and voiced them in a civil manner. I don't mind those guys *Daps*.
Why no faith in Dragon Age 2
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#152
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 05:19
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Simple, Reducing rpg elements and making simple so a 5 year old can play it DEGRADES GAMEPLAY... Not that the masses care about gameplay most of them went "OMGZ COOL GRAPHICS, DA2 FOREVAH, OMG MAGE ANIMATIONZ LOOKZ COOOLZ OMG BEST GAME EVAH"
raping game for money aka stupid masses how nice, u already got the same pattern in every single game bioware... at least try to not **** up and destroy the gameplay and the first expansion of your games...
raping game for money aka stupid masses how nice, u already got the same pattern in every single game bioware... at least try to not **** up and destroy the gameplay and the first expansion of your games...
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#153
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 05:22
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The only change I outright dislike is the lack of armor choices for companions. I didn't miss it in ME2 but DA felt like it was a part of the core mechanic. I'm going to miss inventory management.
Everything else sounds, looks, and plays very well. And at the end of the day it's going to have a BioWare story to tell. And those are always the best part of their games.
Everything else sounds, looks, and plays very well. And at the end of the day it's going to have a BioWare story to tell. And those are always the best part of their games.
#154
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 05:27
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DA 2 is gearing towards predefined characters and tighter story. Bioware has decided to take more control from player to better tell the story (or cinematic action game ) which is what some people want.
Well... at least that's what Bioware do the best now days. To tell you their story using their character. All you need to do is just moving around, pick dialogue choices, button mashing for console players when it comes to battle, and lastly enjoy the show. You can play it for 15 minutes or 30 hours straight. It's as easy and immersing as watching a movie or reading story books.
Well... at least that's what Bioware do the best now days. To tell you their story using their character. All you need to do is just moving around, pick dialogue choices, button mashing for console players when it comes to battle, and lastly enjoy the show. You can play it for 15 minutes or 30 hours straight. It's as easy and immersing as watching a movie or reading story books.
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#155
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 05:35
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TJPags wrote...
Well wrote...
Well I am going to wait to play the game.The demo didn't impress me but it is just a demo.So it really doesn't make sense to judge the game by it.DAO was the best RPG I have played in years.I hope that DA2 isn't way off the mark in the RPG aspect.I wont know till I play it.
I understand what you're saying, and clearly most of us are waiting for the game to make a final decision.
But the point of the demo - any demo - is to give you an idea of what you're getting. So while you're correct that you maybe can't judge the whole game by the demo, you should be able to make a preliminary decision. At least, that's my opinion on it.
I know what your saying about Demos.I just dont want to get locked in on it.When I get my game tomorrow I want to do it with out any preconceived notions on the game.
#156
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 05:41
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I played the demo, and watched all the trailers. I loved the first game and I feel I'm going to love the new game.
My oooonly problem is the new Darkspawn art style. Some I think will be cool (Genlock/Shrieks) but I really dislike the Hurlocks and Ogres.
On the plus side though Quanari get a big thumbs up.
Its a minor problem and won't break my enjoyment.
My oooonly problem is the new Darkspawn art style. Some I think will be cool (Genlock/Shrieks) but I really dislike the Hurlocks and Ogres.
On the plus side though Quanari get a big thumbs up.
Its a minor problem and won't break my enjoyment.
#157
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:05
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I don't really understand the hate. Many of those haters would do the same changes if they were in Bioware's shoes. If you don't like it, then don't play it. Respect the devs and those who enjoy the game.
There isn't going to be a Baldur's Gate 3. Bioware actually took a risk with Origins. And people always want more...
There isn't going to be a Baldur's Gate 3. Bioware actually took a risk with Origins. And people always want more...
#158
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:10
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MaoDun wrote...
Bioware actually took a risk with Origins.
A risk that turned into their biggest selling game ever.
Why do you think that happened?
Protip: Because they referred to the game as going back to their old cRPG roots and Baldur's Gate.
Now they are taking a risk by abandoning the primary reason DA:O was so popular.
#159
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:14
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This is why I'm not going to buy any Bioware games from now on, wont make a difference, but atleast I'm doing something.Wolfy2449 wrote...
Simple, Reducing rpg elements and making simple so a 5 year old can play it DEGRADES GAMEPLAY... Not that the masses care about gameplay most of them went "OMGZ COOL GRAPHICS, DA2 FOREVAH, OMG MAGE ANIMATIONZ LOOKZ COOOLZ OMG BEST GAME EVAH"
raping game for money aka stupid masses how nice, u already got the same pattern in every single game bioware... at least try to not **** up and destroy the gameplay and the first expansion of your games...
#160
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:18
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Lennonkun wrote...
MaoDun wrote...
Bioware actually took a risk with Origins.
A risk that turned into their biggest selling game ever.
Why do you think that happened?
Protip: Because they referred to the game as going back to their old cRPG roots and Baldur's Gate.
Now they are taking a risk by abandoning the primary reason DA:O was so popular.
I don't think that everyone who bought the game liked the combat system. Especially console players(not because their "dumb", but I've heard the game was awful on consoles). And they wouldn't buy an Origins 2.
By the way, I have nothing with Origins combat system. I liked it. But it wasn't the only thing that made this game very fun for me.
#161
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:20
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It's not the changes I don't like. I don't like that many elements of the game are a degeneration of DA:O. You can do less in the game, have less options but you can watch more cutscenes etc. This is not what I expect from a sequel. I had hoped they would build on it, make it better so that you c have more things you can do, more you can explore but it seems they did the opposite...
#162
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:21
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Sacred_Fantasy wrote...
DA 2 is gearing towards predefined characters and tighter story. Bioware has decided to take more control from player to better tell the story (or cinematic action game ) which is what some people want.
Well... at least that's what Bioware do the best now days. To tell you their story using their character. All you need to do is just moving around, pick dialogue choices, button mashing for console players when it comes to battle, and lastly enjoy the show. You can play it for 15 minutes or 30 hours straight. It's as easy and immersing as watching a movie or reading story books.
This. They decided to take a new direction for RPGs. As with time all things change, nothing can stay the same forever. If this new approach does horribly in DA 2 well I would think Bioware will learn from it and see what not to do in their next game. Ideas and creativity can get stagnant and people constantly thirst for something new. I don't agree with all the changes they implemented but I understand why they wanted to try something different.
#163
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:21
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MaoDun wrote...
I don't think that everyone who bought the game liked the combat system. Especially console players(not because their "dumb", but I've heard the game was awful on consoles). And they wouldn't buy an Origins 2.
By the way, I have nothing with Origins combat system. I liked it. But it wasn't the only thing that made this game very fun for me.
That's simple. The console verison was a port. DA:O was made originally just for PCs. The console port came after the PC verison was done.
The tables have turned though. DA2 is being developed with consoles in mind. The PC version may not be a port, but it is still limited by the console design limitations and many PC features were an afterthought. The lack of hi-res textures on the disc is a perfect example.
#164
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:31
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Well, I just wish that they made this game a spin-off. This way it wouldn't be a true sequel and they would try the changes, so they could make the DA2 according to the result. Everyone happy.
#165
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:34
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MaoDun wrote...
Well, I just wish that they made this game a spin-off. This way it wouldn't be a true sequel and they would try the changes, so they could make the DA2 according to the result. Everyone happy.
I fully agree with you.
#166
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:48
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Well, I for one, am highly looking forward to the game. I LOVED DA:O and I played the Demo for DA:2 and was so pleasantly surprised by all the combat changes and the graphics. I loved it!
I understand some people are upset or unsettled by so many game play changes, but, if you truly loved DA:O you should at least give DA:2 a chance.
My biggest love for Bioware comes from their unrivaled ability to spin a good story. That is my biggest hope and expectation for the game, is a good story.
Oh, my other hope for the game, I hope that its at the very least as long as DA:O. I'm so tired of games that take less than 40 hours to beat and have no re playability. Things like that are not worth the money. I got many many many hours out of DA:O.
I understand some people are upset or unsettled by so many game play changes, but, if you truly loved DA:O you should at least give DA:2 a chance.
My biggest love for Bioware comes from their unrivaled ability to spin a good story. That is my biggest hope and expectation for the game, is a good story.
Oh, my other hope for the game, I hope that its at the very least as long as DA:O. I'm so tired of games that take less than 40 hours to beat and have no re playability. Things like that are not worth the money. I got many many many hours out of DA:O.
#167
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:50
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MaoDun wrote...
Well, I just wish that they made this game a spin-off. This way it wouldn't be a true sequel and they would try the changes, so they could make the DA2 according to the result. Everyone happy.
They could have called it Dragon Age:Hawke
#168
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:53
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MaoDun wrote...
Well, I just wish that they made this game a spin-off. This way it wouldn't be a true sequel and they would try the changes, so they could make the DA2 according to the result. Everyone happy.
Nope. People would still find a reason to nitpick and complain about it. You're kidding yourself if you think Bioware could have done ANYTHING to please everyone.
#169
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:54
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BobSmith101 wrote...
MaoDun wrote...
Well, I just wish that they made this game a spin-off. This way it wouldn't be a true sequel and they would try the changes, so they could make the DA2 according to the result. Everyone happy.
They could have called it Dragon Age:Hawke
True story: Dragon Age 2 was originally named Dragon Age: Exodus.
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Posté 07 mars 2011 - 07:01
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I don't think the game is going to suck. It will be a good game, just not what I think a Dragon Age game should be about. I'm still going to buy the game eventually, but it's not a Priority Buy; I am not setting a slot in my monthly budget exclusively for it. Instead, it's a Spare Change Buy: if I have some spare cash, I'll pick it up when I have time. My enthusiasm for DA2 is now about 50% of what it was when the game was initially announced, but it had been worse.
There are changes in the game I do like. The combat animation in DAO could indeed have used a spice-up, the skill trees are a much better system and the graphics are nicer. But there are also changes that I have very mixed (that is, not entirely negative or positive) feelings about, such as the paraphrased dialogue wheel, the inability to equip companions with armours and the new UI and menus. A few changes, most prominently the removal of the overhead camera with absolutely no attempt to replace it with a decent substitute, were hugely disappointing.
All these changes, along with the fact that the game will be shorter and has no selectable races, all make me feel like I'm getting a spin-off, rather than a proper sequel. Hence my loss of enthusiasm for this game.
There are changes in the game I do like. The combat animation in DAO could indeed have used a spice-up, the skill trees are a much better system and the graphics are nicer. But there are also changes that I have very mixed (that is, not entirely negative or positive) feelings about, such as the paraphrased dialogue wheel, the inability to equip companions with armours and the new UI and menus. A few changes, most prominently the removal of the overhead camera with absolutely no attempt to replace it with a decent substitute, were hugely disappointing.
All these changes, along with the fact that the game will be shorter and has no selectable races, all make me feel like I'm getting a spin-off, rather than a proper sequel. Hence my loss of enthusiasm for this game.
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#172
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 07:03
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MaoDun wrote...
Dragon Age: FLEMETH'S COMEBACK!!!
As a DnD player, and based on the little gameplay I have seen from streams etc...
"Choo choo."
#173
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 07:06
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Holy S***! There is a lot of negitive vibes here!! How can you form such extreme opinions about game after only playing the demo? I loved Dragon Age Origins, and honestly, I have no idea what I'll think about Dragon Age 2. That's why I'm waiting to play the game before forming an opinion. Loyalty to DAO is guiding me to buy DA2. Love it or hate it I'm playing it!!
#174
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 07:10
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Lennonkun wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
MaoDun wrote...
Well, I just wish that they made this game a spin-off. This way it wouldn't be a true sequel and they would try the changes, so they could make the DA2 according to the result. Everyone happy.
They could have called it Dragon Age:Hawke
True story: Dragon Age 2 was originally named Dragon Age: Exodus.
That would work too.
#175
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 07:10
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I have to be honest, I didn't like the Dragon Age Origins at the start. I felt like it was bit boring and bland, plus the controls let a lot of be desired to (switched to casual because of that). But the game grew on me after the Lothering part.
I really wish they would have given this game a sub-title instead of number.
I really wish they would have given this game a sub-title instead of number.
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