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[Lennonkun]

Greta13 wrote...

Holy S***! There is a lot of negitive vibes here!! How can you form such extreme opinions about game after only playing the demo? I loved Dragon Age Origins, and honestly, I have no idea what I'll think about Dragon Age 2. That's why I'm waiting to play the game before forming an opinion. Loyalty to DAO is guiding me to buy DA2. Love it or hate it I'm playing it!!

A demo is supposed to give you a good judge of the game. The demo did anything but as all it showed us was mindless face-rolling combat, and poorly acted cutscenes.

You take that, add in the "design decisions", the extremely short and rushed development time and you ahve a pretty big pile of negativity and uneasiness.

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

I have tons of faith in this game, if I want redundant combat and no voices for your warden, I'll go play origins. Great game but I'm really counting on it too destroy origins in all aspects. Origins was great but it had many many many flaws.

[Greta13]

Lennonkun wrote...

A demo is supposed to give you a good judge of the game. The demo did anything but as all it showed us was mindless face-rolling combat, and poorly acted cutscenes.

You take that, add in the "design decisions", the extremely short and rushed development time and you ahve a pretty big pile of negativity and uneasiness.

 I realize that, but if I had only played a small portion of Origins near the beginning I'd have been pretty worried. Some people should just calm down a bit, and if that's tough for them they should drink tea to help! 

[Lennonkun]

Greta13 wrote...
 I realize that, but if I had only played a small portion of Origins near the beginning I'd have been pretty worried. Some people should just calm down a bit, and if that's tough for them they should drink tea to help! 

I guess you never played Baldur's Gate then if the intro to DA:O was too boring for you.

[ThorodinHawke]

im getting it i don't mind change im versitial as long as its still Dragon age(and they don't mke it totally different which they didnt). Im good, im not going to whine about it. being afriad of change is why theres still racists

The cut scenes are better, acting is as good or better than DA:O and dialouge wise is cooler with more choices and u can tell what ur mood is going to be so u don't tick someone off or flirt with Zev (plus people seem more alive especially ur main character), the combat is more interesting. And apartently the changes have a bigger impact and they went in the right directioni think.  i like DO:A combat.... but it was slow....quite slow... i could play it with one hand. stopping it or just letting flow. (i was on normal though lol). I like the gameplay in DA:O but i remember when i first played i kept pressing X thinking i had to in order to attack. That felt nartual. Now in DA II i can press X and have it do something

YAy DA II, i too expect it to surpass DA:O in majority of opinions anyways. (reviews will be interestin cause it depends on who is reviewing it lmao)

Modifié par ThorodinHawke, 07 mars 2011 - 07:38 .

[Greta13]

I guess you never played Baldur's Gate then if the intro to DA:O was too boring for you.

[/quote]
 
Actually, I haven't, but that's not the point. All I'm trying to say is that perhaps people should wait *checks watch* 22 hours before deciding if they'll love it or hate it. Is that really so hard? 

[EpicTragedy]

Boopie-Ne wrote...

There is faith in DA2. People follow the Chantry, the Qun, Ancestors, Elvenhan...

lmao, win

[TJPags]

MaoDun wrote...

I don't really understand the hate. Many of those haters would do the same changes if they were in Bioware's shoes. If you don't like it, then don't play it. Respect the devs and those who enjoy the game.
There isn't going to be a Baldur's Gate 3. Bioware actually took a risk with Origins. And people always want more...

1.  Love the term "haters" for anyone who has any criticism of the game.

2.  No, I wouldn't make the same changes.  I may have made SOME of the changes, but all of them?  Not by a longshot.

3. I can both not like it, and still play it.  I'm good that way.    I can also express concern based on what I've seen thus far, and still turn out to like it.  How about that?  I'm multi-talented. 

4.  I respect the devs, to a point.  Some of their recent comments (yes, I do mean DG's "people are idiots" comment) are making me lose some of that respect, but I still have some.

5.  I respect people who like the game.  Until they start calling anyone with a criticism a hater () or a troll, anyway.  Then I lose some of that respect.

6.  Would be nice if those who liked the game showed a little respect to those who have concerns or criticisms, at least when those concerns and/or criticisms are stated politely. 

7.  I don't want Baldur's Gate 3.  I barely remember anything about Baldur's Gate . . .don't even recall if I played Baldur's Gate 2.  I vaguely remember something called Shadows of Um.  But the point is, this isn't Baldur's Gate, it's Dragon Age.  So, anyway.

8.  Do I want more?  Sure, I want more of the good game I played last year.  Some minor tweaks, and you know what?  Most people would likely have been okay.

[Layn]

Greta13 wrote...

Actually, I haven't, but that's not the point. All I'm trying to say is that perhaps people should wait *checks watch* 22 hours before deciding if they'll love it or hate it. Is that really so hard? 

*checks european wach*  ... 3 days and a half

[AlanC9]

Lennonkun wrote...
Protip: Because they referred to the game as going back to their old cRPG roots and Baldur's Gate.

Maybe Bio doesn't believe that. Maybe they've got reason not to believe it.

[Darji]

[quote]Greta13 wrote...


I guess you never played Baldur's Gate then if the intro to DA:O was too boring for you.

[/quote]
 
Actually, I haven't, but that's not the point. All I'm trying to say is that perhaps people should wait *checks watch* 22 hours before deciding if they'll love it or hate it. Is that really so hard? [/quote]How can wee check? By paying 0$ beforehand? Or waiting for the so far non existent reviews?

[Lennonkun]

Darji wrote...
How can wee check? By paying 0$ beforehand? Or waiting for the so far non existent reviews?

Well that quote chain got broken all to hell haha.

There have actually been a few reviews.

Game informer, PGG/UK(same review, even down to the copy pasted release date), Gamestar, I think maybe 2 more.

Lowest so far has been GI with a 8.2 or something I think. Rest are low-mid 90s. Pretty much every review cites bad level design, shortened gameplay, and bad ending.

Modifié par Lennonkun, 07 mars 2011 - 08:02 .

[Manic Sheep]

People have different opinions and tastes?
And I think some were expecting something more similar to what we got in the first game.

[Darji]

Lennonkun wrote...

Darji wrote...
]How can wee check? By paying 0$ beforehand? Or waiting for the so far non existent reviews?

Well that quote chain got broken all to hell haha.

There have actually been a few reviews.

Game informer, PG/UK(same review, even down to the copy pasted release date), Gamestar, I think maybe 2 more.

Lowest so far has been GI with a 8.2 or something I think. Rest are low-mid 90s. Pretty much every review cites bad level design, shortened gameplay, and bad ending.

I am not really interested in teh score itself. I am more interested in the text. And yes i read the reviews and so far i am not willing to buy this game for a fullprice. But i loved origins and thatss why i want to read more rievews. I want to see if these complaints are common etc.

[Arppis]

Lennonkun wrote...

Greta13 wrote...
 I realize that, but if I had only played a small portion of Origins near the beginning I'd have been pretty worried. Some people should just calm down a bit, and if that's tough for them they should drink tea to help! 

I guess you never played Baldur's Gate then if the intro to DA:O was too boring for you.

I have and DA:O beginning was boring for me at first. But it's brilliance opened up to me later. I wish they would have let us start from Lothering in DA2. We would have had chance to get to know Hawke's family better.

I would have been pretty upset if the combat system would have been it's crippled old self.

Modifié par Arppis, 07 mars 2011 - 08:06 .

[Rockpopple]

Lennonkun wrote...

Darji wrote...
How can wee check? By paying 0$ beforehand? Or waiting for the so far non existent reviews?

Well that quote chain got broken all to hell haha.

There have actually been a few reviews.

Game informer, PGG/UK(same review, even down to the copy pasted release date), Gamestar, I think maybe 2 more.

Lowest so far has been GI with a 8.2 or something I think. Rest are low-mid 90s. Pretty much every review cites bad level design, shortened gameplay, and bad ending.

They also gave the game low-to-mid 90s. Obviously there were many more things they decided to love about the game, rather than not like about the game. Don't be the Fox News of facts here. Let's put it all out there.

[Morroian]

Darji wrote...

I am not really interested in teh score itself. I am more interested in the text. And yes i read the reviews and so far i am not willing to buy this game for a fullprice. But i loved origins and thatss why i want to read more rievews. I want to see if these complaints are common etc.

Says the person who lied about what German reviewers were saying about the game.

[Darji]

Morroian wrote...

Darji wrote...

I am not really interested in teh score itself. I am more interested in the text. And yes i read the reviews and so far i am not willing to buy this game for a fullprice. But i loved origins and thatss why i want to read more rievews. I want to see if these complaints are common etc.

Says the person who lied about what German reviewers were saying about the game.

When did I lie? Did i lie about the 15 hours for the story? Did I lie about that its not felling like Origins part? Or did i lie about the repetetive areas with even the same levellayout?

I am sorry but I dont lie. Especially not because of some games.

Modifié par Darji, 07 mars 2011 - 08:10 .

[Lennonkun]

Rockpopple wrote...
They also gave the game low-to-mid 90s. Obviously there were many more things they decided to love about the game, rather than not like about the game. Don't be the Fox News of facts here. Let's put it all out there.

I am more inclined to trust the pros and cons before I am a fabricated number.

Alpha Protocol was smashed all to hell in reviews. That game is bloody genius. It's got its bugs, and combat may be a tad clunky, but that game had by far the most impressive impact of choices I have ever experienced in a game.

[Melness]

Darji wrote...

Morroian wrote...

Darji wrote...

I am not really interested in teh score itself. I am more interested in the text. And yes i read the reviews and so far i am not willing to buy this game for a fullprice. But i loved origins and thatss why i want to read more rievews. I want to see if these complaints are common etc.

Says the person who lied about what German reviewers were saying about the game.

When did I lie? Did i lie about the 15 hours for the story? Did I lie about that its not felling like Origins part? Or did i lie about the repetetive areas with even the same levellayout?

I am sorry but I dont lie. Especially not because of some games.

Your expectations for DA2 being close to DA:O seem eccentric, considering that of the 3 things you've said, 2 were exactly the same in Origins (area reciclying, quick main plot). I simply didn't understand the third.

[AkiKishi]

Lennonkun wrote...
Alpha Protocol was smashed all to hell in reviews. That game is bloody genius. It's got its bugs, and combat may be a tad clunky, but that game had by far the most impressive impact of choices I have ever experienced in a game.

That's always where Obsidian fail, excellent RPG elements, awful techinical execution. Makes me wonder how DS III will turn out as they are in partnership with SquareEnix for that one. Could be very interesting.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 07 mars 2011 - 08:29 .

[Innishannon]

Cool Beans, TJPags. I agree. We voice our concerns because if we do not, how is change to be met? We are DA:O / DA:A players. Obviously we all care very much for the game. But the demo for DA:2 is different and what we say here doesn't make us "change haters", it merely says that the game we originally fell in love with and the game we we've been waiting for so long has some let downs so far. We expected change, of course we did, but radical change, no... The game is very different thus far and it is a bit disapointing for what we have seen so far. The reason we all anticipated great things out of DA:2 was because DA:O and DA:A were so cool... I play as a rogue most often and I have to admit the way I fight has been radically changed. It's not that I'm not willing to try and adapt, but for someone who has been awe-struck by the original games, it does seem like a bit of an early let down. That is all we are saying. No one, surely, hates what we've seen so far... We merely approach with caution.

[element eater]

people have very specific expectations of games sequels, especially when they held the predecessor in high regard .So when a game differs from these significantly its inevitable that people will be disappointed. not to mention some changes made in DA2 fundamentally go against what people expect from such a game.

For me at least a large part of what makes a game like DAO, baldurs gate, neverwinter nights etc enjoyable is creating and playing the part of my own character as soon as this is taken away my interest plummets

[Innishannon]

Element Eater... That was perfectly said.

[LenaMarie]

I dont mind alot of the changes in DA 2 personally, but removing the option to change companions weapons and armor is so lame. If some people dont like it, then the option should be there not to, but to remove it altogether is just bad design.