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Dragon Age 2 Readme - List of Known Bugs? (Minor Plot Spoilers Listed)


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Lucy Glitter

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 So, check it out here:

Original Gamespot Topic

Apparently in the DA2 readme file, there is a bunch of known bugs in the game put in there. From people checking out their preload files.

Balance 
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- The warrior's Rally talent does not correctly extend the benefits
of sustained modes to other party members.
- The mage's Horror and Petrify spells say that they have a 100%
chance of applying against "any enemy." Although these spells are
indeed just as likely to apply to a boss-level enemy as a
normal-level enemy, some enemies are immune to certain effects, no
matter the enemy's rank. For example, ogres of any rank cannot be
stunned by any ability and are thus innately immune to Horror.
- The mage's Arcane Wall upgrade indicates that it extends the
benefits of Arcane Shield to other party members. Although this is
true, the upgrade reduces the effectiveness of Arcane Shield in
doing so and applies a reduced version of the effects to other
party members.
- Varric's Embellishment talent refers to a movement speed increase.
The ability does not affect movement speed but does affect attack
speed.
- The secondary penalties applied by status effects like STAGGER,
BRITTLE, and DISORIENT (reductions in enemy defense, for example)
are smaller than described in the codex. However, the cross-class
combo bonuses themselves (extra damage vs. STAGGERED enemies, for
example) work as described.
- In rare cases, character statistics can become corrupted in a
manner that does not block progress but might make combat easier or
more difficult than intended. For example, Hawke might not sustain
injuries after falling in combat or might develop a negative
damage resistance score.
- Nightmare difficulty adds several effects that are not described
in-game, including the following: 
1) Attacks from party members that hit more than a single target
(including attacks from a two-handed warrior or a
weapon-and-shield warrior) are capable of harming fellow party
members as well as enemies.
2) Enemy assassins have a chance to steal potions.
3) When enemy assassins strike from stealth, they bypass the
victim's armor.
4) Enemy commanders are able to taunt their allies into attacking
a single member of the player's party en masse.
5) When party members fall below 10% health, they suffer bleeding
damage that will further erode their health unless they are
healed.
6) Various enemies become completely immune to certain types of
damage; for example, dragons become immune to fire damage.

Plots (Minor Spoilers) 
----------------------
- Some side plots do not close properly if they are left uncompleted
when the story jumps forward in time. They remain open in the
journal but cannot be completed in the new timeline. They do not
prevent the game from proceeding and can be ignored.
- In some cases, characters in conversation make inaccurate
references to earlier events in Dragon Age II or to the events of
Dragon Age: Origins, if you imported a saved game.[/b] (Awesome, Bioware)
- In the plot Fools Rush In, it is occasionally possible to pick up a
letter before Isabela tells you to do so. This prevents the plot
from progressing. To complete the plot, restore from an earlier
save and do not pick up the letter until Isabela says to search the
bodies.
- The plot Finders Keepers cannot be completed if you leave the
warehouse before finding the crate. This does not block progress in
the game as a whole.
- After you acquire the plot Who Needs Rescuing, the plot's opening
events sometimes fail to trigger. The plot cannot be completed if
this occurs, but this does not block progress in the game's main
plot.


What the... ?

I guess they didn't have time before the final build to fix them? Some of the ones listed here are kind of plot breaking... 

I hope we get a patch soon!

(credit to Brockololly for the find)

Modifié par Lucy_Glitter, 07 mars 2011 - 06:15 .


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The Night Haunter

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Its called the Known Issue section. It is in every release readme ever created in the past (atleast) 6 years.

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At least BioWare has the stones to admit the game has bugs and is probably working on fixing them. I respect that a lot. Most companies would cover it up and go "bugs, what bugs? Our game is perfect!" until a patch is released.

Modifié par rma2110, 07 mars 2011 - 06:16 .


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rma2110 wrote...

At least BioWare has the stones to admit the game has bugs and is probably working on fixing them. I respect that a lot. Most companies would cover it up and go "bugs, what bugs? Our game is perfect!" until a bug is released.

I bet 9 out of 10 of those "most companies" have these exact same readme files.

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It is most likely that those bugs were found out after the copy was send to esrb/whatever labelling institution that needed the final copy prior to a certain date and, as such, couldn't be fixed. The readme file was created to minimize pre-patch confusion, I suppose.

That doesn't make them less annoying - though some non-plot gameplay issues are actually tooltip issues and I can live with those.

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Mellakim

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we all know DA 2 has been pushed out , so no surprises

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Lucy Glitter

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edit: Disregard 

Modifié par Lucy_Glitter, 07 mars 2011 - 06:17 .


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meh there will prob be a day 1 patch...almost all games do that now days

Modifié par kane442, 07 mars 2011 - 06:17 .


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rma2110 wrote...

At least BioWare has the stones to admit the game has bugs and is probably working on fixing them. I respect that a lot.


Indeed.

It's not like their other games, or other games in general, never had quest bugs. At least there is a heads-up on these.

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Ouch, looks like Nightmare is looking a bit more difficult. ;p

Hrm... I do hope they fix the importing bug as a day one patch

Modifié par nisallik, 07 mars 2011 - 06:19 .


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nisallik wrote...

Ouch, looks like Nightmare is looking a bit more difficult. ;p


Especially the stealing potions part.

Its all MINE you sneaky bastards!

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Lucy Glitter

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At least they aren't game breaking bugs we see. Let's just hope there aren't any memory leaks :P

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Meh. These bugs aren't overwhelmingly bad, the plot ones are avoidable, and the balance onesa can be delt with, until fixed.

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ghostmessiah202 wrote...

Its called the Known Issue section. It is in every release readme ever created in the past (atleast) 6 years.


Except most 'Known Issues' sections don't highlight plot or gameplay bugs or just nebulous statements saying how certain features might not work (the import). They often highlight technical issues.

I'd be hopeful that this means they intend to fix these issues soon, but considering stuff like the Silverite Mines bugs and the whole host of other plot related bugs in Origins and Awakening that were never fixed despite BioWare likely knowing about them, I'm not optimistic. And without a proper toolset update, its not even likely that modders can fix or restore whatever bugged content is in DA2.

Modifié par Brockololly, 07 mars 2011 - 06:24 .


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darklordpocky-san

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anyone remember when games worked on day one, and most glitches were funny non-crucial bugs that were entertaining to play around with?

I miss those days

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darklordpocky-san wrote...

anyone remember when games worked on day one, and most glitches were funny non-crucial bugs that were entertaining to play around with?

I miss those days

I remember two things.

When people were ignorant of bugs, so they didn't notice them.  As you would have been if you didn't know about the readme.

The other thing I remember is pong.

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darklordpocky-san wrote...

anyone remember when games worked on day one, and most glitches were funny non-crucial bugs that were entertaining to play around with?

I miss those days


I don't, I played BG.

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Taleroth wrote...

darklordpocky-san wrote...

anyone remember when games worked on day one, and most glitches were funny non-crucial bugs that were entertaining to play around with?

I miss those days

I remember two things.

When people were ignorant of bugs, so they didn't notice them.  As you would have been if you didn't know about the readme.

The other thing I remember is pong.


Most bugs nowadays seem to make themselve known. Especially when they don't give you an auto save they are meant to, or recognise your in-game choices, or corrupt your data if you play too long.

I'm just saying, I remember when bugs were like; one attack didn't work, and another attack got it's accuracy, so it worked 100% of the time. Or; if you keep spawning object the game would go crazy.

Not saying all games were bug-free, but I am saying that I remember a time where AAA titles were mostly spotless when it came to bugs.

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Melness wrote...

darklordpocky-san wrote...

anyone remember when games worked on day one, and most glitches were funny non-crucial bugs that were entertaining to play around with?

I miss those days


I don't, I played BG.


you poor soul :mellow:

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In some cases, characters in conversation make inaccurate references to earlier events in Dragon Age II or to the events of Dragon Age: Origins, if you imported a saved game.

lolwut?

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darklordpocky-san wrote...

anyone remember when games worked on day one, and most glitches were funny non-crucial bugs that were entertaining to play around with?

I miss those days

Sadly Pong was before my time. :(

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Mellakim wrote...

we all know DA 2 has been pushed out , so no surprises


thats fine with me, just as long as its not being sucked in....

WOO, less than 24 more hours, RPG BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOO!!!

"up here michael, up here... because its the last time your going to be seeing these..."

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I would expect them to mess up with a carry-over decision or two from Origins, like they did with Conrad in ME2, but how the hell do they eff up the consistency of DA2's plot itself?

Really?  Characters will inaccurately reference something I did a few hours ago? :pinched:

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Tbh, compared to some games that's a pretty short bug list.

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I cant remember the last game that DIDN'T have a known issues readme. And this one is short.