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[squee913]

You guys are forgetting something important.Everyone keeps saying that hundreds of thousands have been taken, not millions. Freedoms progress had over 900,000 people. This means that the collectors have been hitting smaller colonies up until Freedoms progress, otherwise the count would have been in the millions. This means the fact that tens of thousands had been processed is in no way a measure of the time it takes to do it.

[squee913]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I actually thought Smud's response to 3-2 was pretty good, although he still nitpicks and makes assumptions.

Except he ignores or sidesteps half my arguments. When I point out shuttles are useless in collection 100's of thousands of people, he just says, "I didn't say they had shuttles... just they could have."
When I point out  Husks have had three eyes since ME1 so it is not unusual for the reaper to have it, he just pretends I didn't. When he says reapers are non-organic machines, and I show EDI proving they are not, he just says EDI does not know what she is talking about. 
So now he is just ignoring what the game tells use because it does not jive with his reasons? 

[Fiery Phoenix]

LOL, I see what you mean. It will be interesting to hear his response to the final part.

[CroGamer002]

squee913 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I actually thought Smud's response to 3-2 was pretty good, although he still nitpicks and makes assumptions.

Except he ignores or sidesteps half my arguments. When I point out shuttles are useless in collection 100's of thousands of people, he just says, "I didn't say they had shuttles... just they could have."
When I point out  Husks have had three eyes since ME1 so it is not unusual for the reaper to have it, he just pretends I didn't. When he says reapers are non-organic machines, and I show EDI proving they are not, he just says EDI does not know what she is talking about. 
So now he is just ignoring what the game tells use because it does not jive with his reasons? 

And no insults?
Well at least he improved.

[AntiChri5]

squee913 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I actually thought Smud's response to 3-2 was pretty good, although he still nitpicks and makes assumptions.

Except he ignores or sidesteps half my arguments. When I point out shuttles are useless in collection 100's of thousands of people, he just says, "I didn't say they had shuttles... just they could have."
When I point out  Husks have had three eyes since ME1 so it is not unusual for the reaper to have it, he just pretends I didn't. When he says reapers are non-organic machines, and I show EDI proving they are not, he just says EDI does not know what she is talking about. 
So now he is just ignoring what the game tells use because it does not jive with his reasons? 

It's Smudboy.

Thats his thing.

[squee913]

Mesina2 wrote...

squee913 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I actually thought Smud's response to 3-2 was pretty good, although he still nitpicks and makes assumptions.

Except he ignores or sidesteps half my arguments. When I point out shuttles are useless in collection 100's of thousands of people, he just says, "I didn't say they had shuttles... just they could have."
When I point out  Husks have had three eyes since ME1 so it is not unusual for the reaper to have it, he just pretends I didn't. When he says reapers are non-organic machines, and I show EDI proving they are not, he just says EDI does not know what she is talking about. 
So now he is just ignoring what the game tells use because it does not jive with his reasons? 

And no insults?
Well at least he improved.

Don't kid your self doctor. Cerberus hasn't changed. 

The insults are there, in the comments he said my pictures were childish.... odd since I agree 

[armass]

I find it kinda odd he still goes on and on about Me2, like he's possessed. He even made 7 part video of his version of the game, I mean damn...

Can't he just let it go?

Modifié par armass, 01 avril 2011 - 08:42 .

[squee913]

armass wrote...

I find it kinda odd he still goes on and on about Me2, like he's possessed. He even made 7 part video of his version of the game, I mean damn...

Can't he just let it go?

That's not true!!! He did ME1 too...

[Fiery Phoenix]

He did ME1 in response to the audience. People demanded that he makes a review for ME1 if he is to prove that he isn't "biased" or something.

[Pwener2313]

How is this thread still on? U-n-b-e-l-i-v-a-b-l-e

[squee913]

Pwener2313 wrote...

How is this thread still on? U-n-b-e-l-i-v-a-b-l-e

Mind control. The thread calls to us

[Iakus]

squee913 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I actually thought Smud's response to 3-2 was pretty good, although he still nitpicks and makes assumptions.

Except he ignores or sidesteps half my arguments. When I point out shuttles are useless in collection 100's of thousands of people, he just says, "I didn't say they had shuttles... just they could have."
When I point out  Husks have had three eyes since ME1 so it is not unusual for the reaper to have it, he just pretends I didn't. When he says reapers are non-organic machines, and I show EDI proving they are not, he just says EDI does not know what she is talking about. 
So now he is just ignoring what the game tells use because it does not jive with his reasons? 

Well, I think his point was:  Reapers take the form of the base creature, yet it sprouted a third eye for some reason.  It's not so obvious on a husk, but very much so on the Reaper larva.  It's a detail that makes no sense in a situation that already makes no sense.

As to EDI saying Reapers are cybernetic organisms:  It's more a matter of "How does EDI know?"  I mean, couldn't the goo be fuel?  Or being processed into a Reaper version of plastic?  Where is EDI getting all this information?  How can we know it's true, besides the fact that, well, it's EDI, she knows everything?

Shuttles are just a missing detail.  Sloppy work, but not a deal breaker

[Almostfaceman]

iakus wrote...

squee913 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I actually thought Smud's response to 3-2 was pretty good, although he still nitpicks and makes assumptions.

Except he ignores or sidesteps half my arguments. When I point out shuttles are useless in collection 100's of thousands of people, he just says, "I didn't say they had shuttles... just they could have."
When I point out  Husks have had three eyes since ME1 so it is not unusual for the reaper to have it, he just pretends I didn't. When he says reapers are non-organic machines, and I show EDI proving they are not, he just says EDI does not know what she is talking about. 
So now he is just ignoring what the game tells use because it does not jive with his reasons? 

Well, I think his point was:  Reapers take the form of the base creature, yet it sprouted a third eye for some reason.  It's not so obvious on a husk, but very much so on the Reaper larva.  It's a detail that makes no sense in a situation that already makes no sense.

As to EDI saying Reapers are cybernetic organisms:  It's more a matter of "How does EDI know?"  I mean, couldn't the goo be fuel?  Or being processed into a Reaper version of plastic?  Where is EDI getting all this information?  How can we know it's true, besides the fact that, well, it's EDI, she knows everything?

Shuttles are just a missing detail.  Sloppy work, but not a deal breaker

EDI's job is to get into the enemy's computers via their wireless networks and find data - that's how she knows.  Doesn't Shep have some data on Harbinger post-SM?  He's holding a data pad with Harbinger schematics.

I always figured the eye thing is because it's a melding of two alien species - the Reapers and humans.

Annnd, I don't expect the Human Reaper to make complete sense yet, we're in Act 2.  As in 98% of the stories I've read, most of the suprises are saved for the end of the story.

[Bamboozalist]

The best explanation for the human reaper I've heard was that it was an experiment to see if Reapers could be successfully created with humans, not a new vanguard, hell the collectors had obviously been testing this for a while now hence Harbinger's claims about the other races when you fight him.

Also is the shuttle thing REALLY that big of a deal, you don't need to be spoon fed everything.

[Ahglock]

Bamboozalist wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

I think, in point of fact, that people complain because BioWare made a series that actually was a little unique and unusual and then turned it into something "safe" with ME2 by making it more like a typical shooter.

*DISCLAIMER: I LOVE ME1*

Wait, ME1 was unique? Funny I could swear I'd seen the story, characters, and overall style pretty much everywhere before, hell I'd seen it in previous Bioware games.

Yeah they are both fairly common.  I think the issue is ME1 went form one style to a Michael Bay style game.  Not that ME1 was serious drama in comparison, but the cliches changed more to a







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Armageddon feel.  

[Iakus]

Bamboozalist wrote...

The best explanation for the human reaper I've heard was that it was an experiment to see if Reapers could be successfully created with humans, not a new vanguard, hell the collectors had obviously been testing this for a while now hence Harbinger's claims about the other races when you fight him.

It could make sense, yes.  But we have no indication if this was an experiment or a serious attempt to build a new Reaper.  Like I've said, I'm left at the end with more of a sense of "What just happened?" than a feling of accomplishment.

Also is the shuttle thing REALLY that big of a deal, you don't need to be spoon fed everything.

For me, no, not really.  It's sloppy, but not game-breaking.

[Iakus]

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Almostfaceman wrote...

EDI's job is to get into the enemy's computers via their wireless networks and find data - that's how she knows.  Doesn't Shep have some data on Harbinger post-SM?  He's holding a data pad with Harbinger schematics.

I always figured the eye thing is because it's a melding of two alien species - the Reapers and humans.

Annnd, I don't expect the Human Reaper to make complete sense yet, we're in Act 2.  As in 98% of the stories I've read, most of the suprises are saved for the end of the story.

However, EDI never refers to files she has uncovered.  In fact, we can only infer that the datapad SHepard's holding at the end came from EDI hacking the base (it's a prtty good guess, though)  When EDI talks about what's inthe base, she's stating things as if they were established fact she's known all along.  WHen she is uncertain, she hypothosizes or speculates.  SHe never refers to files she has been unable to access or data she has not uncovered yet.

Isn't the whole purpose of the exercise to turn humans into Reapers?  Not melding.

Again, though I wanted this game to end with a sense of something being accomplished, either on the part of SHepard or the Reapers.  But I have no idea what Shep actually accomplished. 

Can I say "I foiled one of their experiments"?  Maybe.  Can I say "I stopped them from reentering the galaxy for a little longer"?  Umm, perhaps.  I dunno.  Can I say "I have proof that the Reapers exist"?  Depends on what's on that datapad and how much the Council trusts me and my AI-controlled ship. 

[Bamboozalist]

iakus wrote...

It could make sense, yes.  But we have no indication if this was an experiment or a serious attempt to build a new Reaper.  Like I've said, I'm left at the end with more of a sense of "What just happened?" than a feling of accomplishment.

This goes back to what I was saying about the unknown and how it relates to villains in another thread. I think it's better than we aren't given clear explinations for everything the Reapers do, it helps them stay mysterious and foreign to us, if we can put realistic motivations to them, one someone is going to be really pissed because the official explination will some how be a "plot hole", two it takes a lot away from the player having to come up with theories on his/her own.

It's like in Star Wars where in the originals Lucas didn't try and explain everything, he left a lot just explained by "SCIENCE FICTION LOL DEAL WITH IT!" it made the universe feel special and unique and added a layer of depth. Even Star Trek TOS and TNG with their technobable didn't explain everything.

As for not feeling accomplishment, the middle chapter usually ends on more of a middle note where it doesn't feel like anything was truly accomplished, while the heroes did suceed at their present goals the main plot still hasn't been changed that much.

I think ME2 works much better if you look at it as the 2nd part of the Trilogy a chapter designed to get you emotionally attached to the characters since 90% of the game is about that.

[Almostfaceman]

iakus wrote...

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Almostfaceman wrote...

EDI's job is to get into the enemy's computers via their wireless networks and find data - that's how she knows.  Doesn't Shep have some data on Harbinger post-SM?  He's holding a data pad with Harbinger schematics.

I always figured the eye thing is because it's a melding of two alien species - the Reapers and humans.

Annnd, I don't expect the Human Reaper to make complete sense yet, we're in Act 2.  As in 98% of the stories I've read, most of the suprises are saved for the end of the story.

However, EDI never refers to files she has uncovered.  In fact, we can only infer that the datapad SHepard's holding at the end came from EDI hacking the base (it's a prtty good guess, though)  When EDI talks about what's inthe base, she's stating things as if they were established fact she's known all along.  WHen she is uncertain, she hypothosizes or speculates.  SHe never refers to files she has been unable to access or data she has not uncovered yet.

Isn't the whole purpose of the exercise to turn humans into Reapers?  Not melding.

Again, though I wanted this game to end with a sense of something being accomplished, either on the part of SHepard or the Reapers.  But I have no idea what Shep actually accomplished. 

Can I say "I foiled one of their experiments"?  Maybe.  Can I say "I stopped them from reentering the galaxy for a little longer"?  Umm, perhaps.  I dunno.  Can I say "I have proof that the Reapers exist"?  Depends on what's on that datapad and how much the Council trusts me and my AI-controlled ship. 

What, she doesn't refer to a file number or something? I'm not sure what you mean by "she doesn't refer to the files".  It's clear (from prevous incursions) that Shepard expects EDI to grab as much data as she can from enemy ships/locations and try to make sense of it.  She can theoretically do this as soon as she's in "range" of the base.  She's a supercomputer.  So when you say she says something like she's been thinking about it (or that it's an established fact) I refer back to her statement at one point in a dialogue with Legion - "Some minutes are harder than others."  Her thinking pace far outstrips our own.  She doesn't have to specifically refer to files she can't access, it's logical she hasn't gathered all data when she "estimates" or does "guesswork".  

How do we know that turning humans into Reapers doesn't involve melding?  I don't understand your distinction there.

I know exactly what Shepard accomplished.  Human colonies were vanishing.  Shepard accomplished finding out why and stopping the process.  There's nothing muddled about that.  With regards to what he's accomplished in the overarching plot that's no muddier than what he accomplishes at the end of ME1.  At the end of both, we know we've foiled Reaper plans and that the Reapers are still coming.  At the end of ME2, we just know more about what the Reapers do with some of the organics they defeat.  In my case, this leaves me curious about what else we're going to find out about the Reapers and this is how it is should be by design.

Modifié par Almostfaceman, 01 avril 2011 - 06:44 .

[Iakus]

Almostfaceman wrote...

What, she doesn't refer to a file number or something? I'm not sure what you mean by "she doesn't refer to the files".  It's clear (from prevous incursions) that Shepard expects EDI to grab as much data as she can from enemy ships/locations and try to make sense of it.  She can theoretically do this as soon as she's in "range" of the base.  She's a supercomputer.  So when you say she says something like she's been thinking about it (or that it's an established fact) I refer back to her statement at one point in a dialogue with Legion - "Some minutes are harder than others."  Her thinking pace far outstrips our own.  She doesn't have to specifically refer to files she can't access, it's logical she hasn't gathered all data when she "estimates" or does "guesswork".  

Specific file numbers no, but to refer to files at all would indicate thst this is something she swiped from the Collector's computers and not somehting she magically knows on her own. 

For example, When Shepard says he thought Reapers were completely inorganic, EDI says "Incorrect.  Reapers are sapient constructs.  A hybrid of organic and inorganic material"  She does not say "Based on what I have recovered from the Collector computers so far, Reapers are actually..." or "The files I have accessed indicate that..."   It's just an established fact.  Because EDI says so.

How do we know that turning humans into Reapers doesn't involve melding?  I don't understand your distinction there.

Because the only melding that seems to take place is the inorganic parts and the human goo.  How would combining the two create a third eye, unless some other genetic material was also introduced.  If that's the case, what is it?

I know exactly what Shepard accomplished.  Human colonies were vanishing.  Shepard accomplished finding out why and stopping the process.  There's nothing muddled about that.  With regards to what he's accomplished in the overarching plot that's no muddier than what he accomplishes at the end of ME1.  At the end of both, we know we've foiled Reaper plans and that the Reapers are still coming.  At the end of ME2, we just know more about what the Reapers do with some of the organics they defeat.  In my case, this leaves me curious about what else we're going to find out about the Reapers and this is how it is should be by design.

Short term, yes, Shepard did stop the Collector attacks.  But what was done against the Reapers?  In ME 1, we stopped Sovereign from opening the Citadel relay.  Essentially, Shepard stopped the immediate invason of the galaxy.  Clearly a major victory.  We have time to prepare now.  Or it would have, if the galaxy in general hadn't urinated it way. 

ME 2 we stopped...something...maybe.  Harbringer doesn't seem too impressed.   We, or rather, EDI seems to know what's going to happen to humanity if the Reapers won.  Nice, but doesn't tell us how they plan to invade, provide clues on how to stop them, or even clues on where to find clues on how to stop them.  Neither the Reapers nor Shepard seem to have any more or less an advantage than at the end of ME 1.  Arrival strikes me as a more clear-cut accomplishment than ME2, since there SHep is able to slow them down a bit more.

[JKoopman]

Almostfaceman wrote...

iakus wrote...

squee913 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I actually thought Smud's response to 3-2 was pretty good, although he still nitpicks and makes assumptions.

Except he ignores or sidesteps half my arguments. When I point out shuttles are useless in collection 100's of thousands of people, he just says, "I didn't say they had shuttles... just they could have."
When I point out  Husks have had three eyes since ME1 so it is not unusual for the reaper to have it, he just pretends I didn't. When he says reapers are non-organic machines, and I show EDI proving they are not, he just says EDI does not know what she is talking about. 
So now he is just ignoring what the game tells use because it does not jive with his reasons? 

Well, I think his point was:  Reapers take the form of the base creature, yet it sprouted a third eye for some reason.  It's not so obvious on a husk, but very much so on the Reaper larva.  It's a detail that makes no sense in a situation that already makes no sense.

As to EDI saying Reapers are cybernetic organisms:  It's more a matter of "How does EDI know?"  I mean, couldn't the goo be fuel?  Or being processed into a Reaper version of plastic?  Where is EDI getting all this information?  How can we know it's true, besides the fact that, well, it's EDI, she knows everything?

Shuttles are just a missing detail.  Sloppy work, but not a deal breaker

EDI's job is to get into the enemy's computers via their wireless networks and find data - that's how she knows.  Doesn't Shep have some data on Harbinger post-SM?  He's holding a data pad with Harbinger schematics.

I always figured the eye thing is because it's a melding of two alien species - the Reapers and humans.

Annnd, I don't expect the Human Reaper to make complete sense yet, we're in Act 2.  As in 98% of the stories I've read, most of the suprises are saved for the end of the story.

Something that people seem to be overlooking or misunderstanding is that it's not necessarily that everything in the plot isn't explained to the player (and by extension, Shepard) in Act 2; it's that the lack of explanation apparently satisfies Shepard and co. They simply accept the [lack of] explanation without the slightest hint of curiosity.

I can accept--if not necessarily like--that some aspects of the plot/story are "not supposed to make complete sense yet" because the exposition and explanation is forthcoming in Act 3 provided the protagonist(s) display the same level of incredulity and bewilderment as the player. They do not. For example, EDI pulls her infodump revelations and suppositions out of thin air and Shepard just goes along with it like it's a matter of course. When EDI points out the method and purpose of the Human-Reaper and explains that Reapers are actually semi-organic and not purely mechanical, rather than saying "Wait. What!? How do you know this? Everything we've seen up until now has painted them as being completely artificial. And what possible use could this thing be? This doesn't make any sense!" he's just like "Oh. OK. *shrug*" and goes back to shooting.

I would sincerely love it if everything that makes no sense in ME2 were to be fully explained in ME3 but, judging by the way BioWare wrote the character reactions to these unexplained events, I have the distinct impression that BioWare believes the current exposition to be sufficient.

Modifié par JKoopman, 01 avril 2011 - 07:25 .

[Iakus]

JKoopman wrote...

Something that people seem to be overlooking or misunderstanding is that it's not necessarily that everything in the plot isn't explained to the player (and by extension, Shepard) in Act 2; it's that the lack of explanation apparently satisfies Shepard and co. They simply accept the [lack of] explanation without the slightest hint of curiosity.

I can accept--if not necessarily like--that some aspects of the plot/story are "not supposed to make complete sense yet" because the exposition and explanation is forthcoming in Act 3 provided the protagonist(s) display the same level of incredulity and bewilderment as the player. They do not. For example, EDI pulls her infodump revelations and suppositions out of thin air and Shepard just goes along with it like it's a matter of course. When EDI points out the method and purpose of the Human-Reaper and explains that Reapers are actually semi-organic and not purely mechanical, rather than saying "Wait. What!? How do you know this? Everything we've seen up until now has painted them as being completely artificial. And what possible use could this thing be? This doesn't make any sense!" he's just like "Oh. OK. *shrug*" and goes back to shooting.

I would sincerely love it if everything that makes no sense in ME2 were to be fully explained in ME3 but, judging by the way BioWare wrote the character reactions to these unexplained events, I have the distinct impression that BioWare believes the current exposition to be sufficient.

This.

It's not the lack of explanation, it's the lack of curiosity.  It's like Shepard and the others know they're characters in a story, and just go with it.

[Almostfaceman]

iakus wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

What, she doesn't refer to a file number or something? I'm not sure what you mean by "she doesn't refer to the files".  It's clear (from prevous incursions) that Shepard expects EDI to grab as much data as she can from enemy ships/locations and try to make sense of it.  She can theoretically do this as soon as she's in "range" of the base.  She's a supercomputer.  So when you say she says something like she's been thinking about it (or that it's an established fact) I refer back to her statement at one point in a dialogue with Legion - "Some minutes are harder than others."  Her thinking pace far outstrips our own.  She doesn't have to specifically refer to files she can't access, it's logical she hasn't gathered all data when she "estimates" or does "guesswork".  

Specific file numbers no, but to refer to files at all would indicate thst this is something she swiped from the Collector's computers and not somehting she magically knows on her own. 

For example, When Shepard says he thought Reapers were completely inorganic, EDI says "Incorrect.  Reapers are sapient constructs.  A hybrid of organic and inorganic material"  She does not say "Based on what I have recovered from the Collector computers so far, Reapers are actually..." or "The files I have accessed indicate that..."   It's just an established fact.  Because EDI says so.

How do we know that turning humans into Reapers doesn't involve melding?  I don't understand your distinction there.

Because the only melding that seems to take place is the inorganic parts and the human goo.  How would combining the two create a third eye, unless some other genetic material was also introduced.  If that's the case, what is it?

I know exactly what Shepard accomplished.  Human colonies were vanishing.  Shepard accomplished finding out why and stopping the process.  There's nothing muddled about that.  With regards to what he's accomplished in the overarching plot that's no muddier than what he accomplishes at the end of ME1.  At the end of both, we know we've foiled Reaper plans and that the Reapers are still coming.  At the end of ME2, we just know more about what the Reapers do with some of the organics they defeat.  In my case, this leaves me curious about what else we're going to find out about the Reapers and this is how it is should be by design.

Short term, yes, Shepard did stop the Collector attacks.  But what was done against the Reapers?  In ME 1, we stopped Sovereign from opening the Citadel relay.  Essentially, Shepard stopped the immediate invason of the galaxy.  Clearly a major victory.  We have time to prepare now.  Or it would have, if the galaxy in general hadn't urinated it way. 

ME 2 we stopped...something...maybe.  Harbringer doesn't seem too impressed.   We, or rather, EDI seems to know what's going to happen to humanity if the Reapers won.  Nice, but doesn't tell us how they plan to invade, provide clues on how to stop them, or even clues on where to find clues on how to stop them.  Neither the Reapers nor Shepard seem to have any more or less an advantage than at the end of ME 1.  Arrival strikes me as a more clear-cut accomplishment than ME2, since there SHep is able to slow them down a bit more.

Magically knows on her own?  She's already explained it to me (through the dialogues) that she conducts cyber-warfare by hacking into enemy networks and gathering data/controlling enemy systems.  Then she demonstrats the ability several times, like the "disabled" collector ship.  So I've gotten it now.  This is how she works. For me, she doesn't have to implicity tell me every single time she's conducting cyberwarfare on my target - I've gotten the point already after she's done it several times in the past.  May not be the same for you, but that's how it is for me.  There's only one place she could have gotten the facts - from the same place she's gotten it before many times - her infiltrating the enemy computers.  I don't need that extra dialogue that you need.

Okay, I'm sorry if I'm not making myself clear about the melding.  I'll try one more time.  Melding = human/reaper skull.  Reapers may have a third eye.  Or five eyes.  Maybe... you're thinking that the Reaper is a metal construct with human goo paint - I'm not sure how you see it.  For all I know, the Reaper metal is not truly metal - it could be composed of tightly compacted nano machines that have merged with another species cells and this is how the "metal" and the "goo" meld.  I know the Reapers involve sophisticated nano technology - supposedly that has something to do with indoctrination as well.  This could also explain why some "pieces" of Reapers in the story indoctrinate organics.  This is speculation of course, but this is how I imagine the process "may" work.  So to me, the skull with the third eye is a combo of humanity and Reaper.  Humans have two eyes, Reapers may have multiple eyes, thus a compromise in the melding process results in three eyes.  *shrug*

Again, you didn't see as much of the overlapping Reaper plot as you wanted.  I did.  I don't mind them resolving all that in ME3.  That's what 3 acts are for. 

[Fiery Phoenix]

More and more I'm starting to wonder if the whole problem is just Mac Walters' writing. He was responsible for ME2's plot; is (apparently) the one behind Arrival's story, and is the one who wrote those awful comics -- all of which are heavily criticized on these forums and beyond. I certainly didn't see the same complaints about ME1's story (Drew K.) and Lair of the Shadow Broker (Patrick Weekes).

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 01 avril 2011 - 08:04 .

[squee913]

When EDI is guessing she clearly says so. When she knows something she simply states it. How did she get the info? She has constantly mined any collector computer she has gotten near. It is logical to assume from past events that she has been finding stuff out about the collectors from the moment she got to the collector base. Are you guys really saying that EDI actually has to remind you every time that she is mining data from the collectors? should she pause every 30 seconds and say, "This info is brought to you by the Collectors. Remember If you need collecting, we are there for you."

Of course Shepard is not Asking EDI 100 questions about why the reapers are a mix of organic and non organic. He is standing in the middle of an enemy base! He has other things to worry about.

I understand a lot of your arguments about the game not giving us needed info, but here is the game giving you info through an established source (EDI has been learning about the collectors from their computers before) and you guys are hand waving it away simply becasue the game did not feel it necessary to remind you EDI mines the collectors computers.