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I guess people like to equip "generic armor #2" on their companions, instead of generic armor #1. Yeah, roleplaying at its finest - dress up your squad.

Give me a unique look anyday. Unless your companions are in the army or something they should decide their own outfits.

Modifié par Ada Wong, 07 mars 2011 - 07:52 .


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no you cannot give them armor you find lying around. They have their own body model, armor and look specific to them. From how I understand it you can upgrade their armor tho, equip accessories and runes (so yes you will be finding gear for everyone) and their appearance and clothing may change over the course of the game. You will still be changing Hawkes equipment all the time.
I never understood why being able to change what your companions look like is supposes to be important to an rpg. I prefer that they have their own look instead of generic armor.

Modifié par Manic Sheep, 07 mars 2011 - 08:49 .


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Similar things happened with ME2.

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you can equip ring,amulets,belts and wepons to your companions (expect Varric)

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The difference with ME2 is that the lack of changing companion armor gets all muddled up with the questionable art choices for companion looks, choices that violated existing lore. It's often unclear what someone's complaining about.

At least we don't have the lore problem in DA2. Even folks who squawk about Isabela's look can't ignore that scantily-clad rogues were in DAO as well.

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I seem to remember reading somewhere that runes are destroyed when you remove them from armour. I hope that's not true because that really would suck.

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ok this is the saddest thing i heard just now that you cant change gear for other members this is just too far EXACTLY the same mistake made in me 2 and they still keep it

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Wow... Someone's a little behind the times.

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AlanC9 wrote...

The difference with ME2 is that the lack of changing companion armor gets all muddled up with the questionable art choices for companion looks, choices that violated existing lore. It's often unclear what someone's complaining about.

At least we don't have the lore problem in DA2. Even folks who squawk about Isabela's look can't ignore that scantily-clad rogues were in DAO as well.


I'm mostly talking about things being cut.

Instead of adding new armors...and dealing with the issue of all the armor looking alike...Bioware cut it.

This doesn't mean DA2/ME2 are bad games.

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why do they remove everything that is good me i liked to spend some time changing equipment for my squad see which fits better maybe its just me but the more newer the games are getting the more bad they are

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abadomen wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

The difference with ME2 is that the lack of changing companion armor gets all muddled up with the questionable art choices for companion looks, choices that violated existing lore. It's often unclear what someone's complaining about.

At least we don't have the lore problem in DA2. Even folks who squawk about Isabela's look can't ignore that scantily-clad rogues were in DAO as well.


I'm mostly talking about things being cut.

Instead of adding new armors...and dealing with the issue of all the armor looking alike...Bioware cut it.

This doesn't mean DA2/ME2 are bad games.


OK, but I see cutting stuff that doesn't interest me as a good thing. I prefer cutting the system to fiddling with it. Put the zots into something useful.

I've always preferred RPG systems that had minimal inventory. Unfortunately, inventory's a pretty easy thing to code, so CRPGs have generally gone in the opposite direction.

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abadomen wrote...

I'm mostly talking about things being cut.

Instead of adding new armors...and dealing with the issue of all the armor looking alike...Bioware cut it.

This doesn't mean DA2/ME2 are bad games.

Might have something to do with people don't actually know the difference between changed and cut.

ME2, for example, has every element of an inventory.  It has a selection of weapons and armor pieces you can swap in and out from a menu.  But no, "inventory was cut" is what people are parroting.

Dragon Age has gear that increases with level as well as modifications such as runes you can make to it.  For all they know, these runes could all exactly be as diverse as armors, they just don't change appearance.  "Equipment was cut from DA2."

It's asinine.

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AlanC9 wrote...

abadomen wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

The difference with ME2 is that the lack of changing companion armor gets all muddled up with the questionable art choices for companion looks, choices that violated existing lore. It's often unclear what someone's complaining about.

At least we don't have the lore problem in DA2. Even folks who squawk about Isabela's look can't ignore that scantily-clad rogues were in DAO as well.


I'm mostly talking about things being cut.

Instead of adding new armors...and dealing with the issue of all the armor looking alike...Bioware cut it.

This doesn't mean DA2/ME2 are bad games.


 I prefer cutting the system to fiddling with it. 


Well...let's say there is something you like in DA2...pick anything...

If it is slightly flawed...would you rather they "FIX" that flaw...or get rid of it?

For example...one flaw some are noticing about DA2 is the supposed "cookie-cutter" mission/locations.

Should they fix this by adding more varied locations...or cut out sidequests all together and focus on the mainquest?

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Taleroth wrote...

abadomen wrote...

I'm mostly talking about things being cut.

Instead of adding new armors...and dealing with the issue of all the armor looking alike...Bioware cut it.

This doesn't mean DA2/ME2 are bad games.

Might have something to do with people don't actually know the difference between changed and cut.

ME2, for example, has every element of an inventory.  It has a selection of weapons and armor pieces you can swap in and out from a menu.  But no, "inventory was cut" is what people are parroting.



You can't change your companions armors. It's gone.

Something being "Cut" means it's taken out.

Companioin armor selection has been "taken" out.

They only thing left is the ability to add accesories.

Since you can't add armor....and it was available in the last game...I'd have to say it was CUT...not fixed.

Let's try to have a discussion without resulting to name calling, please.

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abadomen wrote...

Since you can't add armor....and it was available in the last game...I'd have to say it was CUT...not fixed.

I'd have to say you have a shallow understanding of either of those concepts.  One of the most important elements of game design is knowing when to stop.

abadomen wrote...

Let's try to have a discussion without resulting to name calling, please.

I defy you to point out a name.

Modifié par Taleroth, 07 mars 2011 - 08:41 .


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Taleroth wrote...

abadomen wrote...

Let's try to have a discussion without resulting to name calling, please.

I defy you to point out a name.


You claimed my ideas are "asinine."

Argue your point without attacking my opinions.

I respect your opinion that you feel there were only "changes" from ME to ME and DAO to DA2.

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Can hawke change is armour or is that also gone?

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abadomen wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

abadomen wrote...

Let's try to have a discussion without resulting to name calling, please.

I defy you to point out a name.


You claimed my ideas are "asinine."

Argue your point without attacking my opinions.

I respect your opinion that you feel there were only "changes" from ME to ME and DAO to DA2.

You're not presenting an opinion.  "I like X" is an opinion.  You're attempting to rationalize your opinion and derogate the purpose of the change.  This is distinct.

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The only thing I dislike about the companion armor thing is that my cool DLC armor (Blood Dragon and Ser Isaac) will go unused unless I play a warrior. I miss slapping the Blood Dragon armor on Sten, Cailan's set on Alistair, etc... DLC armor is now just for Hawke, it seems. If Hawke can't use it ... no one can.

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The thing that bothers me the most is that this was just another way the developers cut corners to push this game out door. A lot of people posting here are trying to spin it another way... When you add this to the pile of things such as no overhead tactical camera, horrible looking skill trees (with no artwork), this game screams rushed. I hold my judgement until I play it and will probably like it but already I can't help but wondor how better it could have been.

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I don't know about the rest of you, but I want to play barbie with my PC and all my other characters. I want to minmax stats on them.

I find this enjoyable.

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Taleroth wrote...

abadomen wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

abadomen wrote...

Let's try to have a discussion without resulting to name calling, please.

I defy you to point out a name.


You claimed my ideas are "asinine."

Argue your point without attacking my opinions.

I respect your opinion that you feel there were only "changes" from ME to ME and DAO to DA2.

You're not presenting an opinion.  "I like X" is an opinion.  You're attempting to rationalize your opinion and derogate the purpose of the change.  This is distinct.




And you are doing the same with "cut" and "change."

If something is missing from before...it has been cut.

A certain aspect of invetory-management is missing. 

"I like X" is not the only way to have an opinion. If you pay any attention to politics you can see people argue over wordings in legal documents ALL the time.

Right now....you and I have a differerent idea of what it means to change vs. cut.

#148
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Melness wrote...

You can still find upgrades for their armor and change everything else just the same way, the only exception being Varric's weapon. Bianca is too important to be changed :D.



"Bianca" will always be Bartolomeo d'Alviano's sword, for me. Every single time I read that name in connection with Varric's crossbow, I think of Bartolomeo (from Assassin's Creed 2 and AC: Brotherhood).

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Foznova wrote...

Can hawke change is armour or is that also gone?


Hawke can change armor.

And some of your companions can, but they do that themselves.

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So you're the leader of the party...and you can't even ask someone to put on a helmet. Yeah that makes sense.

I suppose the females all have their breasts hanging out though.

Yet another dumbed down "design" decision.