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[DeathStride]

Scorpgul wrote...

'We can also say that the implementation of auto-attack on both Xbox 360 and PS3 is included. When we can reveal the patch notes, we will let everyone know.' Chris Priestly

Let us hope its not an April's Fool joke

It's not-

Chris Priestly said...
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I almost waited until Monday to post this to avoid the thought of a prank, but I know many of you are waiting for word and didn't want to delay it anymore.

Luke Barrett said...
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Don't worry, I'll preface by saying 'This is not an April Fools post' - you're welcome to just not believe it if you'd like. Unfortunately the update I'm waiting for happens to be an end of the week thing.

Modifié par DeathStride, 01 avril 2011 - 09:14 .

[Wee Joe Green]

Purple People Eater wrote...

Wee Joe Green wrote...

Lol in a first person shooter you don't just press the trigger once at a targeted enemy and it unloads the clip on him until dead at which point it stops, you target another, repeat. Why do people want to tame the combat in RPG's?

A first person shooter is a bit of a ridiculous comparison, and saying the combat would be tamed makes no sense either. Tapping the A button 1,000,000 times does not make the game more fun to play for me or alot of other people, and for those of us who like to play on higher difficulties, auto-attack is the better option for managing our entire party in battle, instead of playing what is meant to be a tactical RPG as if it were Dynasty Warriors

Look don't get me wrong I'm very pleased they are implementing the auto-attack feature as it's an element that was apparently supposed to be in the finished product and will please many of the loyal fans who sought for it. In that aspect it's good - along with all the other proposed fixes (thank goodness!) But I personally find having auto-attack removed to be an incredible boost to the combat and one of the reasons I've enjoyed combat more compared to DAO. That's a perfectly acceptable statement, i'm not trying to get up in anyone's grill, so chill.

I think the comparison I made to a shooter is perfectly valid. In the original Dragon Age I would aim at an enemy press A once and let him do his stuff.  Occassionally press a subsiduary button to do a special attack when I had the stamina. I find it much more enjoyable to "button mash" although that's hardly what I'd say I'm doing. That's more the realm of beat-em ups and hack n slashers.  There's still every bit as much tactics involved (at least for me there is) just now I press buttons to correspond to what im doing on screen.  Is this not the point or at least the essence of games??  You press combinations of buttons and something happens on screen based on those button combinations. Any other game in which you'd simply press a button once and let your character do everything whilst you watch the animation would be dull...with the exception myabe of turn-based rpg's.

I just don't understand why people are so fascinated with having an "auto-attack", as if the name didn't make it sound as inferior an option as it is.  Why not call it the "do-it-for-you" attack. Lol

Modifié par Wee Joe Green, 01 avril 2011 - 09:52 .

[Wee Joe Green]

It's like Final Fantasy 13, I don't know if many of you will have played it? You can either manually go through the options to assign elemental attacks, basic attacks to particular enemies and/or heal characters etc...or...you can press the "auto-attack" button. It does the whole thing for you. So instead, you just watched the lengthy battle sequences effectively. Dull, and unfortunately due to the ease of the beginning of the game that's effectively all you had to do for the first 20 hours. That played a large part in what put me off bothering to complete it.

[Wee Joe Green]

Oh and thank you Strangely Brown. It's nice to see someone else feels similarly, I was beginning to think I was unusual for wanting to press the buttons on my controller.

[Steve Nicks]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Hi Everyone

We know that people are waiting on more patching to fix issues they are having with Dragon Age II. We have said previously that we are working on patching for all 4 platforms (PC, Mac, Xbox 360 and Playstation 3), but we have not yet given any detail about what this patch will contain nor when it will be available. We greatly appreciate your patience as we work to fix issues with Dragon Age II and ensure that these fixes do not introduce new issues to the game. To help keep you updated on the status of the next patch (the first patch for PC and Mac Dragon Age II can be found HERE) we wanted to provide you with a more detailed message on the next Dragon Age II patch.

BioWare has prepared a patch for PC, Mac, Xbox 360 and Playstation 3. We are currently testing the patch and are submitting it for certification with EA, Microsoft and Sony. Certification is where testing teams outside of BioWare confirm the fixes we make and ensure that no new issues are introduced. We continue to test the patch during the certification process to ensure quality. Once the patch has passed certification, it is then released to the public. We do not have a more exact ETA of when it will be available to you, but when we do know when it is available, we will let everyone know.

We cannot reveal to you the exact contents of the patch until it passes certification. We can say that there are more than 100 fixes including gameplay, quest and platform specific issues. We can also say that the implementation of auto-attack on both Xbox 360 and PS3 is included. When we can reveal the patch notes, we will let everyone know.

BioWare is dedicated to continuing to support Dragon Age II. We thank our community members who have helped our team fix issues by providing details and reports on the problems they are having. We appreciate your patience and your support.

Just in case anyone missed this announcement that includes auto-attack

[Vaille]

So do we have an ETA yet?

edit: Looks like not.

Modifié par Vaille, 01 avril 2011 - 10:05 .

[Wee Joe Green]

Strangely Brown wrote...

Wee Joe Green wrote...

Oh and thank you Strangely Brown. It's nice to see someone else feels similarly, I was beginning to think I was unusual for wanting to press the buttons on my controller.

No problem.  I made comments about this a few pages back.  I don't see auto attack as any huge advantage and I found even in DA:O that I pressed the button anyways out of habit.  I like feeling like I am controlling my character.

Exactly! I did the very same in which I ended up targeting and re-targeting enemies needlessly at times. Makes you more involved in the combat and this to me, improves the action.  To remove it now would feel like the combat had been "toned-down" somewhat.

[Purple People Eater]

When it comes down to it, its all about preference. I wouldnt take away someones ability to button mash if they enjoyed it, but thats not how I wanted to play. I liked auto-attack in Origins, and it should have been in DA2 from the start. Its the point of the thing really.I hope those of you who have fun spamming the A button, feel like you're doing something.

Modifié par Purple People Eater, 01 avril 2011 - 10:18 .

[Wee Joe Green]

Strangely Brown wrote...

MonkeyLungs wrote...

Strangely Brown wrote...

As a console player...for me this is a non-issue. Is it really that hard to press the button?

I am glad that voices like yours are vastly outnumbered by what I consider to be much more thoughtful opinions.

Having auto attack does not take away from your ability to Press A as many times as you like.
Even if there was just continual input (ie holding down A instead of pressing it over and over) the game would be better .. and it wouldn't take away from your ability to press A as much as you like.

It is hard for me to accept that an opinion like your is genuine. I have a feeling that you are being contrary just for the sake of being contrary.

I am not being contrary simply for the sake of it.  I genuinely don't have a problem with pushing the button.  I think that in the scope of things this is a very minor problem if indeed it really is a problem.  Would it be better to have auto-attack? I suppose but honestly as I played the game I never once even thought of it. 

At the very least I am glad I was able to make you feel good about yourself by expressing a different opinion than yours.  It must be nice to have the only valid opinion in an argument/disagreement. 

Hahaha, well said.  I think this MonkeyLungs needs to get off his high-horse a bit.  On the contrary, I believe it is you, MonkeyLungs, who seems to like complaining just for the sake of it.

Modifié par Wee Joe Green, 01 avril 2011 - 10:19 .

[Wee Joe Green]

Purple People Eater wrote...

When it comes down to it, its all about preference. I wouldnt take away someones ability to button mash if they enjoyed it, but thats not how I wanted to play. I liked auto-attack in Origins, and it should have been in DA2 from the start. Its the point of the thing really.I hope those of you who have fun spamming the A button, feel like you're doing something.

Woah take it easy purple cannibal.  What was that last comment supposed to mean: "I hope those of you who have fun spamming the A button, feel like you're doing something."

We do indeed feel like we're doing something.  We feel like we're actually in control of the actions of our "role-playing" character.  There is nothing inherently "spamming" in the nature of pressing the buttons of a gaming controller?! Do you play any other games? Do you feel like you're being short-changed whenever you require to press buttons too frequently?  You're beginning to sound a little pathetic, I suggest you refrain from making any further ridiculous comments.

[Purple People Eater]

Wee Joe Green wrote...

Purple People Eater wrote...

When it comes down to it, its all about preference. I wouldnt take away someones ability to button mash if they enjoyed it, but thats not how I wanted to play. I liked auto-attack in Origins, and it should have been in DA2 from the start. Its the point of the thing really.I hope those of you who have fun spamming the A button, feel like you're doing something.

Woah take it easy purple cannibal.  What was that last comment supposed to mean: "I hope those of you who have fun spamming the A button, feel like you're doing something."

We do indeed feel like we're doing something.  We feel like we're actually in control of the actions of our "role-playing" character.  There is nothing inherently "spamming" in the nature of pressing the buttons of a gaming controller?! Do you play any other games? Do you feel like you're being short-changed whenever you require to press buttons too frequently?  You're beginning to sound a little pathetic, I suggest you refrain from making any further ridiculous comments.

And I suggest you stop being a pretentious ******, cause thats how you're coming off. Jackass.

[Wee Joe Green]

Purple People Eater wrote...

[And I suggest you stop being a pretentious ******, cause thats how you're coming off. Jackass.

Hey now watch your language.

[AngelicMachinery]

Moi, press a button! How presumptuous of you, I'll leave that to the plebeian bottom feeders thank you very much.

[Wee Joe Green]

Purple People Eater wrote...

And I suggest you stop being a pretentious ******, cause thats how you're coming off. Jackass.

Oh and for the record, you started getting sarcy and condescending in your comment; I reacted.  Go wash your mouth out with soap son.

Modifié par Wee Joe Green, 01 avril 2011 - 10:38 .

[Wee Joe Green]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Moi, press a button! How presumptuous of you, I'll leave that to the plebeian bottom feeders thank you very much.

Hahaha, class.

[Vaille]

Let's ease up guys, we wouldn't want this thread locked.

Wee Joe Green, I respect your preference for button mashing (don't mean that as a derogation), but this isn't the place to debate the pros and cons of the two systems. We're here solely to keep up-to-date with the implementation of auto-attack.

Don't mistake me, I know you're not solely in the wrong, as several people who share my views are egging you on. But I would be very gracious if you played the "bigger man" card and took your argument to a more appropriate thread.

[Wee Joe Green]

Understood Vaille. I respect your thoughts. Is it not more fun though when people have a difference of opinion? Otherwise this thread purely exists just for people to unanimously vent their frustrations. The banter is always better when a spanner is thrown in the mix.

[MonkeyLungs]

What about having an OPTION added to the game is so offensive to some of you?

It doesn't matter what you think, what you say, what you feel about the issue. Auto-attack option was promised before release, then Bioware made some kind of monumental error or something, and now they are finally going to get around to fixing it. The peole who want to use the OPTION can and those of you who don't can keep playing however you like.

The fact that you came into this thread just to try and start fights is hilarious.

We win, you lose.

/thread

[Emperor Reptile]

As a low level rogue playing on nightmare it is an absolute headache A A Aing. Do you know how irritating it is when I only have back stab and that smoke bomb move in my arsenal vs. 10+ spiders.. iz no pretty. When I'm not clicking da AWESOME button I'm running around kiting crap when my grand total of 2 attacks are on CD. I honestly have given up playing as to me it is completely unplayable.... well not unplayable as Im sure others can but to ME its 100% unenjoyable on nightmare. Also as many others have said when mashing A you unfortunately switch targets.. alot. Ive had many fml moments when im attacking target A and accidentally change targeting to target B, only to have the first one freeze, knockback or kill me..  It also is a pain to try and think tactically when Im so busy starring at the simplistic movements of said mashing. Things like forgetting to heal the party, stam/pot up or activate a certain ability have all happened, and even in the most extreme case I once was so enthralled by the AWESOME! That I didnt realize I already shut off the tv for a good 5 min do to rage.

tl;dr FIX NAO!

[G0A]

MonkeyLungs wrote...

The fact that you came into this thread just to try and start fights is hilarious.

you lose.

This.

Now where's that patch?

[Wee Joe Green]

Wee Joe Green wrote...

Look don't get me wrong I'm very pleased they are implementing the auto-attack feature as it's an element that was apparently supposed to be in the finished product and will please many of the loyal fans who sought for it. In that aspect it's good - along with all the other proposed fixes (thank goodness!) But I personally find having auto-attack removed to be an incredible boost to the combat and one of the reasons I've enjoyed combat more compared to DAO. That's a perfectly acceptable statement, i'm not trying to get up in anyone's grill, so chill.

Lol MonkeyLungs you just love to fight don't you?  If you'll note the quote from above you'll see I commented that I was happy they are implementing the 'option' as it was intended and promised.  I never insinuated it shouldn't be.  You're just contradicting what I've already supported now, and no, I didn't come here to start a fight.  I use this forum as it's a fun way to talk to other like-minded (sometimes clearly not) folk and get some conversations sparked on topics about the game.  I never realised this thread existed solely for those who wish to complain, I thought a different perspective would be welcome, but apparently not.

[17thknight]

Oh look, they're finally implementing what they promised would be released in the game. So now the ADD kiddies who want "something awesome to happen" every time they press a button are pissy that the game is getting BASIC functionality? Figures. DA2 really did scrape the bottom of the barrel to find the CoD fans they wanted as a core consumer for this game.

[G0A]

Wee Joe Green wrote...

I thought a different perspective would be welcome, but apparently not.

No, you came to flame. If the following comment wasn't blatant enough:

I just don't understand why people are so fascinated with having an
"auto-attack", as if the name didn't make it sound as inferior an option
as it is.  Why not call it the "do-it-for-you" attack. Lol

You then admitted as such:

Otherwise this thread purely exists just for people to unanimously vent
their frustrations. The banter is always better when a spanner is
thrown in the mix.

Oh, and then there's:

Wee Joe Green wrote...

Lol MonkeyLungs you just love to fight don't you?

No, it's clearly you who likes to stir things up with a big stick, purely beacuse you find it "entertaining", not because you genuinely want discourse. Drop the sarcasm, get out the thread and let it continue, everybody can see what you're doing.

Modifié par G0A, 02 avril 2011 - 03:22 .