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[DragonRageGT]

Gah... fighting the Ancient Rock Boulder right now.. tough mo indeed as you say in your vid. But I notice you have Devour and it is not in your build list/tips. At what level did you get it?

[Rehwyn]

So, I finished my DW Rogue last night and decided to start a Vanguard warrior after following this thread for a while. I've only just hit level 9, but I gotta say... either I was a lot worse at the game or rogue is a lot weaker early game than warriors. It probably helps that Blood Dragon Armor is really, really good and rogue has no free armor like it (at least, I don't think), but I'm getting pretty close to beating Act 1 with the "no one dies" achievement on Nightmare... that says something. Granted, my rogue late game absolutely wrecked single targets (normal Assassinates with no debuffs hitting for 4-5k, 7-9k on debuffed mobs, biggest so far was 33k on a debuffed brittle boss, not to mention my normal melee crits were ~450 and with a 75% chance), but early game a Vanguard warrior is far better. Props for making this thread!

Out of curiosity, has anyone tried upgraded Bravery with this build after the core abilities? The extra threat might not be a big deal, but extra crit/attack/damage on big groups could be nice.

[Sabresandiego]

RageGT wrote...

Gah... fighting the Ancient Rock Boulder right now.. tough mo indeed as you say in your vid. But I notice you have Devour and it is not in your build list/tips. At what level did you get it?

I had devour, but I respec and decided to go templar instead with only 1 point in reaver.

[XOGHunter246]

I just started a playthrough with your setup pretty good setup merill was dying alot before now is better at surviving with the tactics you gave as a guideline.

[Tarion Besbald]

Rehwyn wrote...

So, I finished my DW Rogue last night and decided to start a Vanguard warrior after following this thread for a while. I've only just hit level 9, but I gotta say... either I was a lot worse at the game or rogue is a lot weaker early game than warriors. It probably helps that Blood Dragon Armor is really, really good and rogue has no free armor like it (at least, I don't think), but I'm getting pretty close to beating Act 1 with the "no one dies" achievement on Nightmare... that says something. Granted, my rogue late game absolutely wrecked single targets (normal Assassinates with no debuffs hitting for 4-5k, 7-9k on debuffed mobs, biggest so far was 33k on a debuffed brittle boss, not to mention my normal melee crits were ~450 and with a 75% chance), but early game a Vanguard warrior is far better. Props for making this thread!

Out of curiosity, has anyone tried upgraded Bravery with this build after the core abilities? The extra threat might not be a big deal, but extra crit/attack/damage on big groups could be nice.

Party members besides Hawke as DW rogue?

[Arkalezth]

Where do you find Hybris?

Tarion Besbald wrote...

Party members besides Hawke as DW rogue?

I finished my DW Rogue playthrough today. Most of the time I used Aveline, Fenris and Anders. Merrill is good, too.

Agreed with Rehwyn, warrior felt less damaging vs single oponents, but much more tough, and I missed the AoE attacks as a Rogue. Tried archery for a while, and, despite of what some people say, I didn't find it more powerful. Safer, yes, but nothing else. I respeced at the end, so I'll have to do a full archer playthrough in the future to form myself a better opinion.

Guess I'll try a mage now.

Edit: Sabre, I was taking a look at your key bindings. What key do you use to highlight objects? Tab seems a bit too far from E.

Modifié par Arkalezth, 17 mars 2011 - 12:55 .

[Sabresandiego]

I just fought the high dragon. Beat him twice, but both recordings are full of bugs. How could this game have been beta tested, the high dragon is the stupidest and buggiest fight ever. None of my teamates follow my commands, they all go into out of combat mode after being ressed, and basically the AI is horrible. I end up soloing the high dragon at the end while my dog tanks. Should I post this high dragon vid, or refilm until I get a kill that isnt full of buggy gameplay?

[Arkalezth]

Well, the latter would be better...it's up to you, and the time it takes to get a bug free video.

Could you answer my question about key bindings, please?

[Nphect]

Sabresandiego wrote...

I just fought the high dragon. Beat him twice, but both recordings are full of bugs. How could this game have been beta tested, the high dragon is the stupidest and buggiest fight ever. None of my teamates follow my commands, they all go into out of combat mode after being ressed, and basically the AI is horrible. I end up soloing the high dragon at the end while my dog tanks. Should I post this high dragon vid, or refilm until I get a kill that isnt full of buggy gameplay?

Post the video imo. At least seeing how you managed to kill the High Dragon solo will help most of us. 

EDIT: How the hell do you keep your companion from being total assclowns? I tell them to run to a specific spot and instead they run off to far corners and get themselves pinned into a corner.

And for anyone reading this, go play the Dragon Age Facebook game if you're still in Act 1. The first two unlocks make this spec early on even more of a breeze than before.

Modifié par Nphect, 17 mars 2011 - 01:39 .

[Rehwyn]

Tarion Besbald wrote...

Rehwyn wrote...

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Party members besides Hawke as DW rogue?

My typical group was Aveline, Merrill, and Anders. I had Fatiguing Fog + upgrades on my rogue so I had an AoE Disorient, which I used to CCC with Aveline's Scatter. Was fun seeing her do AoE damage in the 1200-1500 range when it went off. Merrill and Anders were pretty much the same as suggested here, except I gave Merrill Cone of Cold (only ever used manually) and upgraded Winter's Grasp for another source of Brittle (so that I could get the CCC from Assassinate more often).

One thing that did make my rogue playthrough a bit rougher... I didn't learn there was a button to "attack closest target" until Act 3... so I was having to right click everything. That was annoying. ~_~

I also just learned you can use that same button to loot. Just spam it a few times after a fight and you'll run around and grab your stuff.

Modifié par Rehwyn, 17 mars 2011 - 01:39 .

[Sabresandiego]

List of bugs in my high dragon fight.

- Companions do not follow orders

- Ressurected companions in out of combat state, constantly regaining health and difficulty attacking

-Companions do not follow orders

-Stuttering and shuffling when trying to use abilities or attack

-Companions do not follow orders

-Horrible high dragon AI cant defeat my dog (who must be invulnerable to AOE)

Ive fought the high dragon 3 times now and beat him twice, both times were absolutely full of bugs making the fight absolutely rediculous. Did anyone at Bioware even do this fight and notice how buggy it is before releasing the game? I normally would not post such a sloppy fight as a video, but I am going to post this video just to show how bugged out this game is. I killed the high dragon solo after my companions died due to not following repeated orders to move. The high dragon was unable to deal with my dog! Rediculously poor encounter...

Modifié par Sabresandiego, 17 mars 2011 - 01:47 .

[Hank_Da_Tank]

This build is REALLY successful. kudos to you sabre. My first character was a blood mage (with force) and I had much more trouble. Also doing the leveling cheat is not a good idea because enemies level with you and then you have bad gear. I think that is why I had trouble with my mage, because I wanted to be able to use the blood mage skills so I insta-gained 5 levels. BIG MISTAKE.

[Rehwyn]

Hmm, I'm surprised you're having so much trouble with High Dragon bugs. It seemed to go fine for me on my rogue, but maybe I was just lucky.

[Sabresandiego]

Actually Im not gonna post this video. Its way too long, and pointless. Ill film a quality kill of the high dragon.

[DragonRageGT]

Sabresandiego wrote...

Actually Im not gonna post this video. Its way too long, and pointless. Ill film a quality kill of the high dragon.

I don't think they beta-tested it, specially not in Nightmare!

[Sabresandiego]

In order for me to get a quality film I have to kill the high dragon without losing any teamates, because as soon as a teamate dies, I ressurect him and then hes bugged. Well Im not gonna waste all night trying to get a non bugged video, ill just show my latest kill which is a bit less bugged.

[Jodou]

Sabresandiego wrote...

I paid 50g for the expedition by buying all the stuff I mentioned in act 1, and then selling almost all of my jewelry and basically anything my compaions werent using (and some things they were). Mind you, i bought like 3 or 4 extra makers sigh potions, so everything is doable.

I started act 2 with 80 gold I believe (did not take the loan). Do you start act 2 with that much gold if you do take the loan? It also isn't like me to borrow money and not pay it back, and this is an rpg after all.

I don't know how the hell you guys make so much because after doing all sidequests, I definitely wasn't close to the numbers you posted.  It sounds like either option doesn't take your gold, so maybe it's completely bugged.  If you take the loan, it's just assumed you pay off your debts once you get back.  What happens is he comes back for a bigger cut and believe me, I gave him a bigger CUT.

Sabresandiego wrote...

-Horrible high dragon AI cant defeat my dog (who must be invulnerable to AOE)

The dog is immune to fire, right?  LOL, that would be hilarious if the best tank in the game is a summonable pet.  He seriously generates mad threat and so long as he doesn't get in the way of your cleave, has pretty high resilience.  In fact, everything suddenly makes sense as to how I just beat a mature dragon with the dog tanking 50% to dead.  What a ****load of ****.

Modifié par Jodou, 17 mars 2011 - 03:10 .

[DragonRageGT]

Sabresandiego wrote...


The Ultimate Vanguard: Rock Wraith

Argh... help me out if you can figure out what I'm doing wrong here.

Basically my char has the same stats and gear as yours as shown in the video and I can't get past this fight no matter what. I even have a little more STR (33x31 - DPS 61 x 59) with 1 HP less (25x27 CON - 311 x 312 HP - 426x392 Attack - 60/9% x 0/8% Def - 251/44%x 252/40% Armor - mine is level 12 x your level 13 - edit: just realized that you got to 13 after the fight, right?).

What I don't have is Devour since I followed your guide from start. But the party member suffer a lot more damage than yours in the video, I can't kill the minions in 3 hits like you can even with Cleave off and how the heck does your Merril have almost as many HP as your Hawke? Mine has about the same as Varric!

Another problem is with party not responding orders as fast as they used to, specially to move when that thing comes with its bowling attack. And there must be some Tactics bug because I cleared the "activate Bianca song" for Varric and he still activates it on his own?

Modifié par RageGT, 17 mars 2011 - 03:20 .

[Sabresandiego]

RageGT wrote...

Sabresandiego wrote...


The Ultimate Vanguard: Rock Wraith

Argh... help me out if you can figure out what I'm doing wrong here.

Basically my char has the same stats and gear as yours as shown in the video and I can't get past this fight no matter what. I even have a little more STR (33x31 - DPS 61 x 59) with 1 HP less (25x27 CON - 311 x 312 HP - 426x392 Attack - 60/9% x 0/8% Def - 251/44%x 252/40% Armor - mine is level 12 x your level 13).

What I don't have is Devour since I followed your guide from start. But the party member suffer a lot more damage than yours in the video, I can't kill the minions in 3 hits like you can even with Cleave off and how the heck does your Merril have almost as many HP as your Hawke? Mine has about the same as Varric!

Another problem is with party not responding orders as fast as they used to, specially to move when that thing comes with its bowling attack. And there must be some Tactics bug because I cleared the "activate Bianca song" for Varric and he still activates it on his own?

All of my companions are pumped full of constitution. That makes a big difference. Only varric has cunning instead of constitution. Also, my tactics have my companions focus firing on my target, which helps me kill things faster. Devour isnt necessary. As for as bugs, this game is full of them. Its incredible this game got through beta testing.

[Polarl8ear]

Rehwyn wrote...

Regarding the bug where you have stacking decreased attack speed and damage resistance, this is caused by Isabela and Sebastian's Friendship buffs not correctly adding/removing. You can avoid it by not having them in your party at Friendship level, but if you already have the bug you need to do something else.

There is a way to fix this bug (somewhat) by using a save game editor. If you do this, save backups. It worked for my rogue and I didn't seem to have corruption or anything, but safe is better than sorry.

First, download this: http://social.biowar...m/project/1936/

Run daosavegame.exe and open your most recent save. Make SURE this is a save without Isabela or Sabastian in your party or you'll just get the bug again. You'll also get it again whenever you add them, so you'll have to go back and fix your save again if you do.

Once you open your save, find your char in the party and a list of IDs will come up. In DA2, attack speed's ID is 42, so find this value. If you have the bug, it's likely some negative number. Change it to 0 (if your Hawke doesn't have the Friendly buff in the save) or 5 (if they do). You can also find the damage resist value in the list (but I forget the ID number off the top of my head).

Save the file, reload it in game. It should have fixed your problem. I'd suggest periodically checking to make sure it doesn't come back though, at least until an official fix comes.

Thanks for this!  My attack speed was at -29!  I thought my regular attacks were getting slower but it happened so gradually that it was hard to say.  Set it back to 0 and man what a difference.  My two handed warrior can maintain aggro once again!

[DragonRageGT]

Jodou wrote...
I don't know how the hell you guys make so much because after doing all sidequests, I definitely wasn't close to the numbers you posted.  It sounds like either option doesn't take your gold, so maybe it's completely bugged.  If you take the loan, it's just assumed you pay off your debts once you get back.  What happens is he comes back for a bigger cut and believe me, I gave him a bigger CUT.

Well, playing the completionist in NM got me 45 sovereigns net after purchasing the two items for extra talents for some 43g, spent 3g  in a cool armor to replace that ugly blood dragon plate, Armor of Wall or something like that and spent quite a lot on potions because, well, NM is a pain sometimes!

Should have spent it all before going to Act 2 in pots and elixires and items since I had to use the loansharker anyway because of lousy 5 sovereigns!

[DragonRageGT]

Sabresandiego wrote...

All of my companions are pumped full of constitution. That makes a big difference. Only varric has cunning instead of constitution. Also, my tactics have my companions focus firing on my target, which helps me kill things faster. Devour isnt necessary. As for as bugs, this game is full of them. Its incredible this game got through beta testing.

OMG, I just saw it at the end the video... 32 con for Merril.. that's more than our Hawkes have! lol   Elven Tank! =P  But since I don't think I can get any respec potion atm, I'll have to find a way to get past this bowling ball without reducing the diff or there's no point in playing NM, is there? =)


P.S.: Would be nice if you enable display of combat information on your videos. It always helps to have some data for comparison.

Modifié par RageGT, 17 mars 2011 - 04:20 .

[Tarion Besbald]

The high dragon is a real pain in the ass. Killed him on my first try though.

Don't get hit, Debuff + DPS hard.
1st transition phase @ about 70% - dragonlings, followed by fireball spits that really hit hard (finally a good opportunity to use the resistance amulets/rings/belts!)
Standard Dragon phase
2nd transition phase @ about 40% - dragonlings + 1 dragon, followed by fireball spits
Standard Dragon phase
3rd transition phase @ about 20% - dragonlings + 2 dragons, followed by fireball spits
Standard dragon phase

This fight was very long and annoying, but not as hard as the Rock Wraith. Make liberal use of potions

[CubbieBlue66]

Just wanted to say thanks for the guide. I beat the game with my character a couple days ago and had a blast using your build. When I go back to beat the game on nightmare (after having played around with the other classes a bit) I'll be using a Vanguard.

[Tarion Besbald]

Thank you for the save game editor... I've been fighting the final battles with -24 speed modifier (thank you very much, Isabela!) and -30% damage resistance (where the heck did that come from?)!