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[Sarcastic]

Wow, 2 pages of replies and nothing worth a crap. Guess what, the Commanding Officer (CO) of a Naval Frigate is rarely if ever a captain, they are typically commanded by a Commander. On the time in service vs rank argument Shepard is, deployed, active duty, Special Forces and damn good at it. My grandfather took a field promotion from a NCO rank of E7 to a commissioned rank of Major while fighting in Guam during WW2. He had only been in the military for 3 years and had no college or academy training; he was however damn good at what he did. Additionally you do not verbally address a Lt. Commander (0-4 Major in the Army) and a Commander (O-5 Lt Colonel) any differently. At the beginning of ME1 Shepard could have been serving in the role of a Lt Commander. Keep in mind as well that any CO rank of 0-6 or higher almost always means being "grounded" (the navy is an exception) so the "hero types" almost never accept rank past 0-5 during their careers.

Modifié par Palidine_0225, 08 mars 2011 - 05:52 .

[Pwener2313]

This is a troll thread Palidine, there will not be anything other then crap in one of Inception's threads.

[Sarcastic]

I see, I will keep that in mind. Thanks

[Pwener2313]

No prob

[Destroy Raiden_]

The problem is most people aka civilians don't know jack about the military command structure most know general, admiral, captain, and commander are all high ranks but little else. BW doesn't know what is what in the command structure and neither do most of the players or they don't care it sounds cool it sounds important therefore they'll take it.

[Pwener2313]

Raiden, this is a troll thread. Don't waste your time here. Avoid Inception if possible.

[ijustwananame1]

Regardless of if the OP is trolling or not, any confusion over the issue of rank is down to confusion over landbased terminology vs. naval terminology.

"Commander" is a common enough naval and often air force rank. And Shepard is a member of the Alliance Navy.

In any case, talk of sergeant / major etc. is irrelevant as no such rank exists, in and of itself, in (I believe, any English-speaking) navy.

[Slayer299]

Captain is both a rank and a title in the navy. You can earn the rank of Captain by climbing the officer ranks; Lieutenant -->Lt. Commander --> Commander -->Captain. I think some of the confusion here is that Shepard is a Commander in ME but becomes "captain" of the Normandy.

When Shep takes command of the Normandy she's still the rank of Commander but she gains the title while on board the Normandy of Captain, every ship has a "Captain" and that officer can have an official rank of Lieutenant but still have the title of Captain.

There is no automatic promotion upon taking command of a vessel.

[Chewin]

Don't feed the troll

[Greybox_Inception]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Greybox is a ******.

but on the contrary i am not a donkey, which is a dubious version of a horse.

[SSV Enterprise]

Hey Greybox, what bridge do you live under?

[Bloggers99]

Notice how when anyone provides a decent argument, it's skipped over so he can quote some nonsensical ramblings. You lost again, Graybox. You've got four posts on page 3 tearing you a new e-sphincter. Just stop.

[Greybox_Inception]

SSV Enterprise wrote...

Hey Greybox, what bridge do you live under?

 the inception brigde. 

i actually perfer living in a subway station.

Modifié par Greybox_Inception, 08 mars 2011 - 02:35 .

[Alienmorph]

Guys, just report Mr. Greybox... I can assure that it works.

[Greybox_Inception]

Bloggers99 wrote...

Notice how when anyone provides a decent argument, it's skipped over so he can quote some nonsensical ramblings. You lost again, Graybox. You've got four posts on page 3 tearing you a new e-sphincter. Just stop.

what i have to reply to everyone? then be called a spammer? hmmm.... besides i don't feel like replying or reading half of what's posted in here. current status: lazy

[Greybox_Inception]

Alienmorph wrote...

Guys, just report Mr. Greybox... I can assure that it works.

and what am i doing wrong? how can i get reported for something i haven't violated?

how about we report tali as a deceptive terrorist pirate who intrudes government property in the future infiltrating their ventilation systems while trying to steal their conduit & warp plasma to sell to other terrorists who'd use it as a unstable weapon? report that as a nice  idea for a story addictive.

Modifié par Greybox_Inception, 08 mars 2011 - 02:44 .

[Bloggers99]

Palidine_0225 wrote...

Wow, 2 pages of replies and nothing worth a crap. Guess what, the Commanding Officer (CO) of a Naval Frigate is rarely if ever a captain, they are typically commanded by a Commander. On the time in service vs rank argument Shepard is, deployed, active duty, Special Forces and damn good at it. My grandfather took a field promotion from a NCO rank of E7 to a commissioned rank of Major while fighting in Guam during WW2. He had only been in the military for 3 years and had no college or academy training; he was however damn good at what he did. Additionally you do not verbally address a Lt. Commander (0-4 Major in the Army) and a Commander (O-5 Lt Colonel) any differently. At the beginning of ME1 Shepard could have been serving in the role of a Lt Commander. Keep in mind as well that any CO rank of 0-6 or higher almost always means being "grounded" (the navy is an exception) so the "hero types" almost never accept rank past 0-5 during their careers.

Destroy Raiden wrote...

The problem is most people aka civilians don't know jack about the military command structure most know general, admiral, captain, and commander are all high ranks but little else. BW doesn't know what is what in the command structure and neither do most of the players or they don't care it sounds cool it sounds important therefore they'll take it.

ijustwananame1 wrote...

Regardless of if the OP is trolling or not, any confusion over the issue of rank is down to confusion over landbased terminology vs. naval terminology.

"Commander" is a common enough naval and often air force rank. And Shepard is a member of the Alliance Navy.

In any case, talk of sergeant / major etc. is irrelevant as no such rank exists, in and of itself, in (I believe, any English-speaking) navy.

Slayer299 wrote...

Captain is both a rank and a title in the navy. You can earn the rank of Captain by climbing the officer ranks; Lieutenant -->Lt. Commander --> Commander -->Captain. I think some of the confusion here is that Shepard is a Commander in ME but becomes "captain" of the Normandy.

When Shep takes command of the Normandy she's still the rank of Commander but she gains the title while on board the Normandy of Captain, every ship has a "Captain" and that officer can have an official rank of Lieutenant but still have the title of Captain.

There is no automatic promotion upon taking command of a vessel.

Flawless victory.

[Greybox_Inception]

Bloggers99 wrote...

Palidine_0225 wrote...

Wow, 2 pages of replies and nothing worth a crap. Guess what, the Commanding Officer (CO) of a Naval Frigate is rarely if ever a captain, they are typically commanded by a Commander. On the time in service vs rank argument Shepard is, deployed, active duty, Special Forces and damn good at it. My grandfather took a field promotion from a NCO rank of E7 to a commissioned rank of Major while fighting in Guam during WW2. He had only been in the military for 3 years and had no college or academy training; he was however damn good at what he did. Additionally you do not verbally address a Lt. Commander (0-4 Major in the Army) and a Commander (O-5 Lt Colonel) any differently. At the beginning of ME1 Shepard could have been serving in the role of a Lt Commander. Keep in mind as well that any CO rank of 0-6 or higher almost always means being "grounded" (the navy is an exception) so the "hero types" almost never accept rank past 0-5 during their careers.

Destroy Raiden wrote...

The problem is most people aka civilians don't know jack about the military command structure most know general, admiral, captain, and commander are all high ranks but little else. BW doesn't know what is what in the command structure and neither do most of the players or they don't care it sounds cool it sounds important therefore they'll take it.

ijustwananame1 wrote...

Regardless of if the OP is trolling or not, any confusion over the issue of rank is down to confusion over landbased terminology vs. naval terminology.

"Commander" is a common enough naval and often air force rank. And Shepard is a member of the Alliance Navy.

In any case, talk of sergeant / major etc. is irrelevant as no such rank exists, in and of itself, in (I believe, any English-speaking) navy.

Slayer299 wrote...

Captain is both a rank and a title in the navy. You can earn the rank of Captain by climbing the officer ranks; Lieutenant -->Lt. Commander --> Commander -->Captain. I think some of the confusion here is that Shepard is a Commander in ME but becomes "captain" of the Normandy.

When Shep takes command of the Normandy she's still the rank of Commander but she gains the title while on board the Normandy of Captain, every ship has a "Captain" and that officer can have an official rank of Lieutenant but still have the title of Captain.

There is no automatic promotion upon taking command of a vessel.

Flawless victory.

and what if each of those guys reply to a post structured as such. easier to read and or reply to?

quote under quote replied to quote of quote under quote = ? ? ? = i'm not obligated to reply anything, such as what i'm doing now.^_^nothing wrong.

[Alienmorph]

Thank you Greybox, I love when people give me nice suggestions. Another report sent. Oh but don't worry... continue your trolling. Until you can.

[Greybox_Inception]

Alienmorph wrote...

Thank you Greybox, I love when people give me nice suggestions. Another report sent. Oh but don't worry... continue your trolling. Until you can.

but if you're falsifying reports, wouldn't that make you far worst than a person/me you accused of spamming? tell me what exactly can you report me for? what's the issue? what is the violation of this report? offensive materials? spamming? threats?:huh:because i don't see none of that in here (defnitely none by me).

i'm going to "report" you for being a talimancer, because quarians are genocidal terrorists of the galaxy in mass effect. "sarcasm" is a violation of policies.


and remember, trolling isn't spamming. I am not a troll either.

Modifié par Greybox_Inception, 08 mars 2011 - 02:49 .

[Bloggers99]

You spam the forums and promote speciesm. It's still prejudice.

Also,
http://social.biowar...3/index/6369518
http://social.biowar...3/index/6348426
http://social.biowar...3/index/6344249
http://social.biowar...3/index/6288290
http://social.biowar...3/index/6398312
http://social.biowar...3/index/6400348

Modifié par Bloggers99, 08 mars 2011 - 02:50 .

[Greybox_Inception]

Bloggers99 wrote...

You spam the forums and promote speciesm. It's still prejudice.

Also,
http://social.biowar...3/index/6369518
http://social.biowar...3/index/6348426
http://social.biowar...3/index/6344249
http://social.biowar...3/index/6288290
http://social.biowar...3/index/6398312
http://social.biowar...3/index/6400348

so i should do that as a method to reply to all without being called a spammer? is this a set up? manipulation? reverse psychoogy? the talimancing magic?

[Alienmorph]

I can report a thread and write the reasons why I did it, but that only means that someone will come to check it. If some of your spamming postplaces where closed because my reports (as previously happened) it's only because someone thinked that I was right when I did the report, not that I falsify anything.

Said that, have you all a nice day, I finished the trollfood and I've got more serious business to do now.

Modifié par Alienmorph, 08 mars 2011 - 03:06 .

[Fixers0]

I think Shepard should be adressed as:
Ultimate Supreme Overlord Chairman General Kick-Ass Shepard.

[Greybox_Inception]

Alienmorph wrote...

I can report a thread and see the reason I did it, but that only means that someone will come to check it. If some of your spamming postplaces where closed because my reports (as previously happened) it's only because someone thinked that I was right when I did the report, not that I falsify anything.

Said that, have you all a nice day, I finished the trollfood and I've got more serious business to do now.

no one cares about your pointless psychology attempt.

there's no reason that this post is spam. unless you are a undercover spammer deliberately trying to contrive "violations" to then falsify a report as if i'm the violator.

Modifié par Greybox_Inception, 08 mars 2011 - 03:08 .