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DeaHamlet

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Sarah1281 wrote...

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In-game, my Hawke is mentally disintegrated. She's lost her entire family in the span of ten years- father dead, Bethany killed by an ogre, mother killed by a psycho, Carver in the Wardens and so far away from her that he might as well not be there. She's consumed and has made Anders's goal her own; because she loves him absolutely, because she's afraid of losing anyone else (if Anders dies, the only person she has left in the world that she feels would love her is Varric in the sibling way), because she needs something to continue going on with. All the power, the money, the fear and respect she commands burns to ashes when she sees the door to her mother's room. She doesn't even consider that killing Anders, regardless of whether she agrees with him, an option, or a good way of doing things.

I've seen a few people mention how messed up their Hawke is at the point she decides to keep Anders with her and I'm wondering how common this is. I think my Hawke is as sane as can be under the circumstances and Anders ended up dead in my only completed playthrough. How fares the sanity of your guys' Hawkes when you spare Anders? 

O/T: One annoying thing about the rivalry is that whenever I click on Anders instead of something sweet I get 'Don't start needling me now. We're busy' in a really peeved tone of voice. Oh well. Sacrifices and whatnot.


Ahmmm... I plan to spare him in EVERY playthrough.  Even if that means having to kill him in combat later if I side with the templars.  It broke my heart to have to kill Fenris my first run-through, ouch.  That's what I get for not metagaming at all.  (Which reminds me... Anders even if you don't bring him with you, he KNOWS the naughty things you've done and comments that he can't believe you sent X to the circle.  o.O BUSTED!!!)

Even if Anders ends up dead, it won't be some cowardly "kill you from behind while you accept your fate nonesense".  Nor does it make sense to respond to vengeance with vengeance.  Even if I side with templars, I still think the chantry lady is weak.  But then again, I tend to gain the Qun's respect every playthough, maybe I just have that kind of "sometimes you need to ACT, sometimes you have to be ruthless to right life"... attitude in the game.

As to the sanity... the mage playthrough, my Lorelai was very much sane, a little irked by Fenris' continual "I hate you, I like you", miffed at Isabela, angry at blood mages, angry at Meredith and the chantry lady... her brother was an **** who joined the templars (good riddance!), her mother died because CRAZY is crazy and not because of magic.  Put the lotion on the skin crazy does not depend on magic, just on the crazy.  Pretty much, my mage was fed up.  Zero tolerance for blood mage Demon deals other than a soft spot for Merrill cause she's such a silly innocent... and zero tolerance for templar abuse.

Mind you, I think of my mage as the spiritual reincarnation of my Warden.  A continuation of those ideals, though I messed it up at times.

My Warden would chop up anyone in little pieces to protect her men.  No touchy Anders, no touchy Alistair!  And Meredith was such an evil **** to Alistair... TSK TSK!

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I've yet to have a playthrough where Isabela didn't leave after she got the relic. :pinched:

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GailRana wrote...

someone with skills needs to make a music video with Anders clips and this song


I might sign up for that job, will need some time. =]

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TripLight wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...

Awwww, I think I may have found a kindred spirit in Isabela. I just had a conversation with her where she invites my fem Hawke to join her crew...and bring Anders along with her. <3<3<3


:wub:I had the conversation with my Hawke who romanced Fenris, but she didn't mention him. Did she specifically mention Anders to you?


Yup. I'm going to get a video of the conversation here in a minute if you're interested.

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Eshaye wrote...

GailRana wrote...

someone with skills needs to make a music video with Anders clips and this song


I might sign up for that job, will need some time. =]


You just have to promise to let me know if you do! 

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TS2Aggie wrote...

TripLight wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...

Awwww, I think I may have found a kindred spirit in Isabela. I just had a conversation with her where she invites my fem Hawke to join her crew...and bring Anders along with her. <3<3<3


:wub:I had the conversation with my Hawke who romanced Fenris, but she didn't mention him. Did she specifically mention Anders to you?


Yup. I'm going to get a video of the conversation here in a minute if you're interested.


yes please ^_^

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Batteries wrote...

I've yet to have a playthrough where Isabela didn't leave after she got the relic. :pinched:


Yeah, I haven't finished a second playthrough yet, but she abandoned my ass permanently in my first game. Didn't take her anywhere so she remained neutral :crying:

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TS2Aggie wrote...

Awwww, I think I may have found a kindred spirit in Isabela. I just had a conversation with her where she invites my fem Hawke to join her crew...and bring Anders along with her. <3<3<3


You know, that line is the ONLY reason Isabela didn't get handed over to the Qun.  The ONLY reason.

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GailRana wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

GailRana wrote...

someone with skills needs to make a music video with Anders clips and this song


I might sign up for that job, will need some time. =]


You just have to promise to let me know if you do! 


K but my Anders looks a bit different is that okay? 

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My hawke loves Fenris as much as she loves Anders. I just finished the companion quest of Anders...at first, when i started playing DA2, I didn't like anders, after he blew the chantry, made me like him less...but then i decided to give him a chance.....

Just finished his companion quest on my warrior Hawke....i must tell you all....when he kissed my hawke and said those cute things i melted in rl...my bf was like..."wtf". After I went back to the house, he...he drove me nuts. I CAN FINALLY SAY! I AM AN ENDERS FANGIRL!

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DeaHamlet wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...

Awwww, I think I may have found a kindred spirit in Isabela. I just had a conversation with her where she invites my fem Hawke to join her crew...and bring Anders along with her. <3<3<3


You know, that line is the ONLY reason Isabela didn't get handed over to the Qun.  The ONLY reason.


ROFL! I actually brought her out on my Fenris PT and once you know how to navigate her conversations (Middle Option Scores Big) and choices, she is IMO, one of the BEST companions. Varric is top dog, but she earned herself a spot right next to him and Aveline.

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Eshaye wrote...

GailRana wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

GailRana wrote...

someone with skills needs to make a music video with Anders clips and this song


I might sign up for that job, will need some time. =]


You just have to promise to let me know if you do! 


K but my Anders looks a bit different is that okay? 

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Works for me! Though i liked his nose better in the regular version. I'm sure i'll find a way to cope though :P

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Long post ahoy!

I see some people posting about how their mentally disintegrating Hawke sides with Anders as part of their RP for why Hawke sides with him and whatnot. It's funny because in the end it was for very similar reasons why my Hawke -didn't- side with him, and in fact killed him.

Quick background: I love Anders, prior to DA2 I considered him the second best DA companion behind only Sten. I also don't mind his change in personality (somewhat) for DA2 as there is enough old Anders in there for me that I can accept the Justice thing having altered him that much.

It took me a long time to decide what to do in those moments, but in the end I had to make the choice I did purely because of what my Hawke had been through. He lost almost his entire family to magic essentially (Bethany died in the Deep Roads) and although he wasn't Meredith level anti-Mage he was certainly wary. I always saw him as a protector, and once his close family was gone he chose Kirkwall and it's people as his 'thing to protect'. This combined with the horror of what Anders did meant he could never let him go (if I had known about Sebastian's threat then it would have made it even clearer).

I did try to get him to help me put things right first (Merrill asked me to, I couldn't say no) but sadly he wasn't game. Which is understandable.

Needless to say I look forward to keeping him alive on a future playthrough, I just found it interesting how I had a similar RP aspect to other people but ran with it in a completely different direction.

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TripLight wrote...

DeaHamlet wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...

Awwww, I think I may have found a kindred spirit in Isabela. I just had a conversation with her where she invites my fem Hawke to join her crew...and bring Anders along with her. <3<3<3


You know, that line is the ONLY reason Isabela didn't get handed over to the Qun.  The ONLY reason.


ROFL! I actually brought her out on my Fenris PT and once you know how to navigate her conversations (Middle Option Scores Big) and choices, she is IMO, one of the BEST companions. Varric is top dog, but she earned herself a spot right next to him and Aveline.


Oh no!  That Isabela gets nowhere near Fenris when I'm romancing Anders.  No need to hear about her sexing up the elf.  No no no.  And she only rarely gets taken on when I'm romancing Fenris.

The devil woman wants to flirt with everyone!  Leave my boys alone, you devilish woman!
I made the mistake of taking her with me on the Zevran quest and I missed out on Anders getting snarky at Zevran!!!  Boo.
I can't wait for Fenris to try and rip Zevran's head off *teehee*

But Isabela... oh, she's getting her ass handed to the Qun on my evil blood mage playthrough.  Oh yes, it shall be glorious!  muahahaha

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Batteries wrote...

I've yet to have a playthrough where Isabela didn't leave after she got the relic. :pinched:


You must befriend her, pratically everyone but Carver was happy with me, but Carver was a true brother and stood next to me in the end.

Modifié par LoneWolf4191, 19 mars 2011 - 08:20 .


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TripLight wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...

Awwww, I think I may have found a kindred spirit in Isabela. I just had a conversation with her where she invites my fem Hawke to join her crew...and bring Anders along with her. <3<3<3

:wub:I had the conversation with my Hawke who romanced Fenris, but she didn't mention him. Did she specifically mention Anders to you?


When Isabela invites you to join her crew, ne of your dialogue options should say "What about Anders?".  Then Isabela says something like "What about him?  He can come to, I'm sure I could find a use for him."  It's very sweet.

Isabela is my Hawke's best friend; she's awesome.

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I rarely feel I am role-playing in many western RPGs. I'm just trying to get the "best" version of game. The "happiest" ending where everyone lives and blahblah. In this game I felt a lot of my decisions were purely role-playing, because there is no happy medium. I like.

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I have a quick question. During Dissent is the special option where Anders doesn't kill the mage tied to the diplomatic personality?

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Isabela's (potential) New Crew

And yes, RandomNinja, that is the quest, but you do not have to have Diplomatic as the dominant personlity.

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Apollo Starflare wrote...

Long post ahoy!

I see some people posting about how their mentally disintegrating Hawke sides with Anders as part of their RP for why Hawke sides with him and whatnot. It's funny because in the end it was for very similar reasons why my Hawke -didn't- side with him, and in fact killed him.

Quick background: I love Anders, prior to DA2 I considered him the second best DA companion behind only Sten. I also don't mind his change in personality (somewhat) for DA2 as there is enough old Anders in there for me that I can accept the Justice thing having altered him that much.

It took me a long time to decide what to do in those moments, but in the end I had to make the choice I did purely because of what my Hawke had been through. He lost almost his entire family to magic essentially (Bethany died in the Deep Roads) and although he wasn't Meredith level anti-Mage he was certainly wary. I always saw him as a protector, and once his close family was gone he chose Kirkwall and it's people as his 'thing to protect'. This combined with the horror of what Anders did meant he could never let him go (if I had known about Sebastian's threat then it would have made it even clearer).

I did try to get him to help me put things right first (Merrill asked me to, I couldn't say no) but sadly he wasn't game. Which is understandable.

Needless to say I look forward to keeping him alive on a future playthrough, I just found it interesting how I had a similar RP aspect to other people but ran with it in a completely different direction.


Welcome, Apollo! And thanks for sharing your Hawke's story as well. Jennifer really did out do herself on writing Anders, and that he evokes so many different play styles and rps is a testament to that. I take it you sided with the templars on that playthrough as well?

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Apollo Starflare wrote...

Long post ahoy!

I see some people posting about how their mentally disintegrating Hawke sides with Anders as part of their RP for why Hawke sides with him and whatnot. It's funny because in the end it was for very similar reasons why my Hawke -didn't- side with him, and in fact killed him.

Quick background: I love Anders, prior to DA2 I considered him the second best DA companion behind only Sten. I also don't mind his change in personality (somewhat) for DA2 as there is enough old Anders in there for me that I can accept the Justice thing having altered him that much.

It took me a long time to decide what to do in those moments, but in the end I had to make the choice I did purely because of what my Hawke had been through. He lost almost his entire family to magic essentially (Bethany died in the Deep Roads) and although he wasn't Meredith level anti-Mage he was certainly wary. I always saw him as a protector, and once his close family was gone he chose Kirkwall and it's people as his 'thing to protect'. This combined with the horror of what Anders did meant he could never let him go (if I had known about Sebastian's threat then it would have made it even clearer).

I did try to get him to help me put things right first (Merrill asked me to, I couldn't say no) but sadly he wasn't game. Which is understandable.

Needless to say I look forward to keeping him alive on a future playthrough, I just found it interesting how I had a similar RP aspect to other people but ran with it in a completely different direction.


That's an interesting take on it. I suppose it really depends in what way Hawke loses it. One is much more selfish than the other on one hand, but then, forcing him to atone for his sins might alleviate that on some point.

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RandomNinja wrote...

I have a quick question. During Dissent is the special option where Anders doesn't kill the mage tied to the diplomatic personality?

Jeez, I don't think so? Maybe it does. I think I hit a lower-left option, so it was either a star or heart?

Edit: Is no one going to celebrate page 100? :wizard:

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RandomNinja wrote...

I have a quick question. During Dissent is the special option where Anders doesn't kill the mage tied to the diplomatic personality?


No; I've gotten it with my sarcastic/charming and aggressive personalities.

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I ran off with my Anders in the end with my Fem Hawke, I wonder what the future will entail for the both of them other than having an angry Sebastian chasing us just to kill him, even though Anders did that horrible thing in the end, I still loved him and I couldn't kill him. But to gain freedom lives must be lost, it happens throughout all history, every revolution, every rebellion. The only difference is the sides and how they will view things. Most countries had to fight for their independence, but when you seclude a whole class of people, it would be on an even larger scale, just like in the pro Mage ending. But eventually there will be a middle ground where both side can look back and see the difficulties they had to go through. Only the future can tell what lies ahead for all our Hawkes.

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Isabela's (potential) New Crew

And yes, RandomNinja, that is the quest, but you do not have to have Diplomatic as the dominant personlity.


That's adorable! Thanks for posting it. Isabella is a big'ol softie.

Now me, off to bed.