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[Some Geth]

Ryzaki wrote...

Some Geth wrote...
And that's what I like about you a fangirl who knows what's what(most of the time=])and can see things for what they are.

You can thank UpsettingShorts ranting for that. I finally saw the light. And ra forbid the smirk on his face if he reads that bit. <_<

Wonder if we count as being in a rivalry? Hm...probably not.

UpsettingShorts is a smart man good to know he can"fix"fangirls.

[LastFadingSmile]

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...
Some people really are just vitriolic in their hatred of Anders. I just don't understand how anyone could feel that about anything ever. *sigh*

Well it's not that hard to hate someone to the point of wanting to kill them it's a human thing after all but for me Anders is not real/not worth it so I have no real hatred for him.

It's not that. I understand that it's human and whatnot to hate things, but I don't understand the level of hatred.

I've had people do some pretty godawful things to me, but I wouldn't say I hate any of them. Perhaps that's why I can't understand it in relation to a fictional character.

Maybe it's because they're fictional character that people feel freer to express such hatred, though. It would be pretty alarming to hear the kind of vitriol in real life that gets levelled at a lot of these characters, but here you can kind of handwave it as petty whackiness and go about your business. Maybe it's catharsis? Who knows. 

Plus there's the anonymity of the internet lowering their inhibitions, which Penny Arcade summed up best. 

[AquilaChrysaetos86]

autumnyte wrote...

thebrute7 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

eleridragon wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...

This is a bit late but...

People want to murder Bethany? Why? Poor girl. At worst she's boring. Certainly not a murderable offense. Plus, the whole point of Bethany is to kick in your protective instincts.

Poor Beth. I can understand killing Anders (even if I don't quite get the levels of pure hatred) but Bethany. D: I wuv her. She kind of reminds me of my sister.

Whut?!  Why would anyone want to murder Bethany?

I go cry for a little.

This is bad enough.

Worst part is she just accepts it. She's not even angry.

Dear God...  I can't even explain how abominable that is...  I really can't.  Excuse me while I go cry for a little.

Oh, UGH. That is right up there with the video of giving Fenris to Danarius in terms of things I wish I could unsee.

Oh god, why did I watch this? Especially when Meredith uses her foot to . . . argh, I just wanted to yell at the screen 'That's my sister you disrespectful b*tch!'

Bethany is nothing like my little sister but she definately pushes my 'big sister' buttons. Brb, crying.

[legbamel]

autumnyte wrote...
I realize I'm in the minority, but I sometimes find my Hawke wanting to kill Anders out of love. Not because I'm angry about what he did to the world, or even to Hawke, but to end his suffering.

However, the cold murderknife in the back doesn't sit right with that scenario. Ugh. Just did this in a playthrough and I'm still upset by it.

I'm wallowing in the middle of my fic but I've already written that scene.  And, yes, it's done with love and deep regret.  Hawke knows that Anders wants out, that he isn't looking for martyrdom but release, and that giving it to him is the last act she can perform as his friend.  So she does.

But she doesn't do the back-stab-murder-knife thing.  That just didn't make any sense to me.  If I'm going to kill a possessed freaking healer I'm going to make damned sure he's dead no matter my motivations.

[Ryzaki]

Some Geth wrote...
UpsettingShorts is a smart man good to know he can"fix"fangirls.

Fix?



I'm not fixed.

If I was I wouldn't be still squeeing over that smexy Anders kiss. 

[Some Geth]

Kolotosa wrote...

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...
Some people really are just vitriolic in their hatred of Anders. I just don't understand how anyone could feel that about anything ever. *sigh*

Well it's not that hard to hate someone to the point of wanting to kill them it's a human thing after all but for me Anders is not real/not worth it so I have no real hatred for him.

It's not that. I understand that it's human and whatnot to hate things, but I don't understand the level of hatred.

I've had people do some pretty godawful things to me, but I wouldn't say I hate any of them. Perhaps that's why I can't understand it in relation to a fictional character.

Maybe it's because they're fictional character that people feel freer to express such hatred, though. It would be pretty alarming to hear the kind of vitriol in real life that gets levelled at a lot of these characters, but here you can kind of handwave it as petty whackiness and go about your business. Maybe it's catharsis? Who knows. 

Plus there's the anonymity of the internet lowering their inhibitions, which Penny Arcade summed up best. 

I have see hatred in real life that makes internet hate a joke.

[Purposeof-Flight]

legbamel wrote...

autumnyte wrote...
I realize I'm in the minority, but I sometimes find my Hawke wanting to kill Anders out of love. Not because I'm angry about what he did to the world, or even to Hawke, but to end his suffering.

However, the cold murderknife in the back doesn't sit right with that scenario. Ugh. Just did this in a playthrough and I'm still upset by it.

I'm wallowing in the middle of my fic but I've already written that scene.  And, yes, it's done with love and deep regret.  Hawke knows that Anders wants out, that he isn't looking for martyrdom but release, and that giving it to him is the last act she can perform as his friend.  So she does.

But she doesn't do the back-stab-murder-knife thing.  That just didn't make any sense to me.  If I'm going to kill a possessed freaking healer I'm going to make damned sure he's dead no matter my motivations.

I can't write that scene.
I mean, my fanfics usually depress me with angst, anyway, but I just can't write it.
First of all, I always spare him.
Second of all, if I were to kill him it would not be out of anger...so I'd want to look directly at him while I did it, I'd want to explain myself.

[Purposeof-Flight]

Ryzaki wrote...

Some Geth wrote...
UpsettingShorts is a smart man good to know he can"fix"fangirls.

Fix?



I'm not fixed.

If I was I wouldn't be still squeeing over that smexy Anders kiss. 

Fix?
That was an amusing word for it.

[Ryzaki]

Some Geth wrote...
I have see hatred in real life that makes internet hate a joke.

Heh. I've expressed hatred in real life that makes internet hate a joke.

Not proud of it. But heh. Wanting to kill someone? That's not really hateful at all.

[Some Geth]

Ryzaki wrote...

Some Geth wrote...
UpsettingShorts is a smart man good to know he can"fix"fangirls.

Fix?



I'm not fixed.

If I was I wouldn't be still squeeing over that smexy Anders kiss. 

I don't know Mr.Shorts never did tell you to stop loving him did he?

[LT123]

Ryzaki wrote...

eleridragon wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...

This is a bit late but...

People want to murder Bethany? Why? Poor girl. At worst she's boring. Certainly not a murderable offense. Plus, the whole point of Bethany is to kick in your protective instincts.

Poor Beth. I can understand killing Anders (even if I don't quite get the levels of pure hatred) but Bethany. D: I wuv her. She kind of reminds me of my sister.

Whut?!  Why would anyone want to murder Bethany?

This is bad enough.

Worst part is she just accepts it. She's not even angry.

Gah. That is awful. Even the Youtube comments are all "How could anyone do that?!?"

[Ryzaki]

Some Geth wrote...

I don't know Mr.Shorts never did tell you to stop loving him did he?

...I'd be more scared about being in love with a fictional character than hating them to be perfectly honest.

I like Anders. Not love. My Hawkes love him. <3 I just find his kisses squee worthy.

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

Fix?
That was an amusing word for it. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

Now that I think about it...lol.

[phantomdragoness]

SurelyForth wrote...

I think the problem with separating Justice and Anders after the events of DA2 would be the damage done to Anders' psyche. My guess is that it would be a pretty severe to fatal shock to his system at worse, and deeply traumatic at best.

And this is assuming that Justice will go. A rivaled Anders who sided with the templars would be as much of the Enemy as Meredith ever was. Justice might dig in and take Anders down with him if he thinks that Anders will be a tool for "injustice" without him.

Whyyyyyy did I watch that Bethany video? *cries*

I read somewhere that a person's soul is more "sensative" to possession after the demon is banished. But it isn't just about Anders, it's about Justice as well; I hate it that all he wanted to do was good, yet his duty has corrupted him. But there is the concern of what it would do to Anders. I don't think it would do anything, but maybe that's wishful thinking - Connor was fine after being possessed, but the demon was within the Fade - the consequences may be different if a spirit is within a person physically.

[thebrute7]

LT123 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

eleridragon wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...

This is a bit late but...

People want to murder Bethany? Why? Poor girl. At worst she's boring. Certainly not a murderable offense. Plus, the whole point of Bethany is to kick in your protective instincts.

Poor Beth. I can understand killing Anders (even if I don't quite get the levels of pure hatred) but Bethany. D: I wuv her. She kind of reminds me of my sister.

Whut?!  Why would anyone want to murder Bethany?

This is bad enough.

Worst part is she just accepts it. She's not even angry.

Gah. That is awful. Even the Youtube comments are all "How could anyone do that?!?"

Am I the only one who feels slightly broken inside right now for even watching that?  I love Bethany way too much.

[AquilaChrysaetos86]

Kolotosa wrote...

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...
Some people really are just vitriolic in their hatred of Anders. I just don't understand how anyone could feel that about anything ever. *sigh*

Well it's not that hard to hate someone to the point of wanting to kill them it's a human thing after all but for me Anders is not real/not worth it so I have no real hatred for him.

It's not that. I understand that it's human and whatnot to hate things, but I don't understand the level of hatred.

I've had people do some pretty godawful things to me, but I wouldn't say I hate any of them. Perhaps that's why I can't understand it in relation to a fictional character.

Maybe it's because they're fictional character that people feel freer to express such hatred, though. It would be pretty alarming to hear the kind of vitriol in real life that gets levelled at a lot of these characters, but here you can kind of handwave it as petty whackiness and go about your business. Maybe it's catharsis? Who knows. 

Plus there's the anonymity of the internet lowering their inhibitions, which Penny Arcade summed up best.

Hmm, I suppose that makes sense. Although how come some of us can resist the temptation to act like a jerkwad?

Not criticising your point btw, just musing.

[Some Geth]

Ryzaki wrote...

Some Geth wrote...
I have see hatred in real life that makes internet hate a joke.

Heh. I've expressed hatred in real life that makes internet hate a joke.

Not proud of it. But heh. Wanting to kill someone? That's not really hateful at all.

So have I and I have had people want me to die but they are racist so they can go f**k off.

[ipgd]

I don't think there's anyone who denies Anders did a ****ty thing.

It was reprehensible, sure, but I understand him, and it makes him a more interesting character. I'm not sure why anyone needs to justify his actions to like him as a character.

[Some Geth]

ipgd wrote...

I don't think there's anyone who denies Anders did a ****ty thing.

It was reprehensible, sure, but I understand him, and it makes him a more interesting character. I'm not sure why anyone needs to justify his actions to like him as a character.

Oh I have seen people try and boy they are stupid.

[Ryzaki]

Some Geth wrote...
So have I and I have had people want me to die but they are racist so they can go f**k off.

lol.

Though I know now why I can't resist the rivalrymance. I have a love/hate (not literally but like/dislike isn't as fun to say) relationship with Anders and the rivalrymance is the ultimate love/hate relationship. <3

[Jean]

I don't even see why there needs to a justification.

Modifié par Batteries, 19 avril 2011 - 02:15 .

[LastFadingSmile]

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

Hmm, I suppose that makes sense. Although how come some of us can resist the temptation to act like a jerkwad?

Not criticising your point btw, just musing.

I don't know, maybe some people are just naturally predisposed to default to ass-hattery.

Personally I wish real life was more like the internet and every time I wanted to make a point I could just pull an amusing and somehow relevant image out of my pocket and then skip away satisfied.

Modifié par Kolotosa, 19 avril 2011 - 02:16 .

[Purposeof-Flight]

Ryzaki wrote...

...I'd be more scared about being in love with a fictional character than hating them to be perfectly honest.

WHAT?
I am in LOVE with Anders. I want to have pixel-mage-babies with him, so we can drink pixel coffee in the morning and talk about our pixelated lives together.

Maybe kill a few pixelated templars and blow up a few pixelated Chantries.

[Some Geth]

Ryzaki wrote...

Some Geth wrote...
So have I and I have had people want me to die but they are racist so they can go f**k off.

lol.

Though I know now why I can't resist the rivalrymance. I have a love/hate (not literally but like/dislike isn't as fun to say) relationship with Anders and the rivalrymance is the ultimate love/hate relationship. <3

I have told you before how me and my girlfriend have Tae-Kwon-Do fightes right? and she kicks me in the head is that a love/hate relationship?

Modifié par Some Geth, 19 avril 2011 - 02:16 .

[YamiSnuffles]

ipgd wrote...

I don't think there's anyone who denies Anders did a ****ty thing.

It was reprehensible, sure, but I understand him, and it makes him a more interesting character. I'm not sure why anyone needs to justify his actions to like him as a character.

I second this.

[Ryzaki]

Some Geth wrote...
I have told you before how me and my girlfriend have Tae-Kwon-Do fightes right? and she kicks me in the head is that a love/hate relationship?

Depends. Does she enjoy kicking you in the head?