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Amondra wrote...

That would be epic mostly is any have a Valor spirit attached.


Makes me think of an awesome Hawke gets his own Fade spirt fic turning his threesome with Anders and Justice into a foursome.

Oooh ToP: 
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Ninche wrote...

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has anyone ever realised that spirit healers actually require a good spirit to come help them healz? wynne and anders da2 version should be the only ones capable... i just seems like a plot hole to let the warden or hawke heal now that i think about it.


Well I think this issue falls into the "gameplay and narrative are not connected" category. 

My Hawke (in my mind) is gathering a mage army to lead against the chantry, and there will be a whole special squad made entirely out of mages combined with spirits. Also imagine a templar/mage army - so much epicness :D


...i see a whole lot of justices coming out to play!!!  Massive KA-BOOM!!!!! blowing up the chantry was nothing :blink:

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Camilladilla wrote...

Amondra wrote...

That would be epic mostly is any have a Valor spirit attached.


Makes me think of an awesome Hawke gets his own Fade spirt fic turning his threesome with Anders and Justice into a foursome.

Oooh ToP: 
Image IPB


Oooh, thanks for that link. I've been looking to read something like that... but I can't navigate the Kinkmeme. T.T

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D'awwwwww, kitty :3

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Re: Sandal's Prophecy

Little late here, but I wanted to add a little something.

I think what Sandal says is very interesting. Amusing too. After playing Awakening I was convinced that there was more to magic and mages then they were telling us. Why? Because of Spirit Warriors, no less. Well, and Dwarves in the Fade.

I became convinced that everyone was capable of some level of magic. It's mentioned that even mages vary, right? Some are amazingly powerful from a young age, and others are barely ever able to light a candle or cast a simple cantrip. There had to be more to it. Then of course they started blurring the lines.

What's a Spirit Warrior? Not a mage, but a 'normal' person who consorts with the benevolent spirits of the Fade in order to gain "magic like" abilities. What is "magic like"? It's either magic, or it isn't. How can there be a middle ground? Sure they can't shoot Fire Balls from their finger tips... yet. Who's to say that someone who converses and learns from those Spirits couldn't eventually "re"learn magic?

Then there's the question of, why are some born mages and some aren't? We know the Chantry states that it was the Old Gods who first taught the Magisters magic, but the Codex entries in DAII give hints that this has been debunked, or is considered myth in some places. Besides, if that were true, then the Magisters must have been "normal" at one time, therefore implying that anyone could technically learn magic, no?

Erm... this is actually getting a little long, so I'll remove my tinfoil hat and go back to being crazy somewhere else.

All my friends who are fans of DA called me crazy... But soon they shall see! Muhahahaha!


I came here to post this as well. I also think that there's magic potential in everyone in Thedas, except for the dwarves (probably).

Some of the non mage specs are very magic-inclined actually. Templars, reavers, spirit warriors, shadow rogues... what are their abilities if not magic?

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Aww that pic is the cutest thing ever :3

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Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Oooh, thanks for that link. I've been looking to read something like that... but I can't navigate the Kinkmeme. T.T


I find it's easier if you add a ?view=flat thingie at the end of a kinkmeme link that way the posts to are listed in chronological order so you'll always know when someone adds something new.

So for example, latest DA2 kinkmeme thread would be http://dragonage-kin....html?view=flat

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silver-crescent wrote...

I came here to post this as well. I also think that there's magic potential in everyone in Thedas, except for the dwarves (probably).

Some of the non mage specs are very magic-inclined actually. Templars, reavers, spirit warriors, shadow rogues... what are their abilities if not magic?


My Warrior Hawke is a Reaver...that entire talent tree looked like Blood-Magic to me. You can rip a piece of flesh from your enemy to replenish your health, or you can eminate violent spirit engergy, or sacrifice your own health so you can regain stamina etc. I kept thinking: "My warrior is a Blood-Mage...without the mage part." :blink:

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Camilladilla wrote...

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Oooh, thanks for that link. I've been looking to read something like that... but I can't navigate the Kinkmeme. T.T


I find it's easier if you add a ?view=flat thingie at the end of a kinkmeme link that way the posts to are listed in chronological order so you'll always know when someone adds something new.

So for example, latest DA2 kinkmeme thread would be http://dragonage-kin....html?view=flat


Ooh, that does help, thanks.

Also. I recract my previous statement of thanking you for that link.

I wantz more.  :crying:

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Camilladilla wrote...

Amondra wrote...

That would be epic mostly is any have a Valor spirit attached.


Makes me think of an awesome Hawke gets his own Fade spirt fic turning his threesome with Anders and Justice into a foursome.

Oooh ToP: 
Image IPB


I love you for the link and the pic is to cute!

#27536
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Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Ooh, that does help, thanks.

Also. I recract my previous statement of thanking you for that link.

I wantz more.  :crying:


LOL I know... pretty much my reaction was "THAT'S IT!?" when I hit the end, but I guess it's better left open ended that way. The author did say she might go back and write up a sequel, but personally I'd rather she focus on writing more fills for the meme XD

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phantomdragoness wrote...

silver-crescent wrote...

I came here to post this as well. I also think that there's magic potential in everyone in Thedas, except for the dwarves (probably).

Some of the non mage specs are very magic-inclined actually. Templars, reavers, spirit warriors, shadow rogues... what are their abilities if not magic?


My Warrior Hawke is a Reaver...that entire talent tree looked like Blood-Magic to me. You can rip a piece of flesh from your enemy to replenish your health, or you can eminate violent spirit engergy, or sacrifice your own health so you can regain stamina etc. I kept thinking: "My warrior is a Blood-Mage...without the mage part." :blink:


Exactly. Reapers are probably the most blatant case. It IS blood magic, pure and simple.

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silver-crescent wrote...

phantomdragoness wrote...

silver-crescent wrote...

I came here to post this as well. I also think that there's magic potential in everyone in Thedas, except for the dwarves (probably).

Some of the non mage specs are very magic-inclined actually. Templars, reavers, spirit warriors, shadow rogues... what are their abilities if not magic?


My Warrior Hawke is a Reaver...that entire talent tree looked like Blood-Magic to me. You can rip a piece of flesh from your enemy to replenish your health, or you can eminate violent spirit engergy, or sacrifice your own health so you can regain stamina etc. I kept thinking: "My warrior is a Blood-Mage...without the mage part." :blink:


Exactly. Reapers are probably the most blatant case. It IS blood magic, pure and simple.


Thats how I looked at it.  So my Hawke was spiting Anders left and right with being a Templar/Reaver.

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There's power in blood in this game even if you're not a mage. Templars and phylacteries come to mind as well.

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Camilladilla wrote...

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Ooh, that does help, thanks.

Also. I recract my previous statement of thanking you for that link.

I wantz more.  :crying:


LOL I know... pretty much my reaction was "THAT'S IT!?" when I hit the end, but I guess it's better left open ended that way. The author did say she might go back and write up a sequel, but personally I'd rather she focus on writing more fills for the meme XD


Indeed. I've found a few on there that I really like, but mostly from other links in this thread.

That said, I'm also good with open ended stuff... means the imagination can run wild with all the things that weren't said. Hehehehe...

Oh Maker. I have enough fanfiction on my plate as it is. I will not start writing AU (for my Hawke) glowy, possessed smut. I hope.

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Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Indeed. I've found a few on there that I really like, but mostly from other links in this thread.

That said, I'm also good with open ended stuff... means the imagination can run wild with all the things that weren't said. Hehehehe...

Oh Maker. I have enough fanfiction on my plate as it is. I will not start writing AU (for my Hawke) glowy, possessed smut. I hope.


Shouldn't have said that, now I'll be needling you to write it, because god damn, I can't get enough of awesome DA2 AU's, ESPECIALLY when they involve Hawke/Anders :P

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Camilladilla wrote...

There's power in blood in this game even if you're not a mage. Templars and phylacteries come to mind as well.


I kinda thought the Chantry used blood magic for that.  Kinda like it serves the greater good blah blah excueses.  Also I thought in the Mage origin they mention that they summoned a demon to you...sounds like the Chantry uses double standards

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Camilladilla wrote...

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Indeed. I've found a few on there that I really like, but mostly from other links in this thread.

That said, I'm also good with open ended stuff... means the imagination can run wild with all the things that weren't said. Hehehehe...

Oh Maker. I have enough fanfiction on my plate as it is. I will not start writing AU (for my Hawke) glowy, possessed smut. I hope.


Shouldn't have said that, now I'll be needling you to write it, because god damn, I can't get enough of awesome DA2 AU's, ESPECIALLY when they involve Hawke/Anders :P


Pfft. I don't think it's possible to resist Hawke/Anders. They're just so... *Drools*

Yeah. Famfiction can be a happy, happy place.

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Camilladilla wrote...

There's power in blood in this game even if you're not a mage. Templars and phylacteries come to mind as well.


It seems that blood itself is magic - therefore anyone has the potential of using it. Also, I am VERY curious about the whole tranquility process. Seems like an immencely powerful ritual - where did they learn how to do it and do they use magic? It seems almost godlike to be able to just sever someone's connection to the fade and take their magic away. What other rituals of the sort are there? 

Also, what do we know about the old gods exactly? I seem to have missed a massive chunk of information somewhere - for example I didn't know there were SEVEN exactly. And now that one of them is being reborn in Morrigan's child what does that mean for the world? Maybe the kid will be imba powerful and be able to zap everyone and turn them into mages. 

Also about the whole joining with a spirit thing - essentially it's the best guarantee the person won't get posessed by an evil demon. Theoretically, you could select the most wise and calm among mages and get them a spirit to make them extra powerful. 

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Amondra wrote...

Camilladilla wrote...

There's power in blood in this game even if you're not a mage. Templars and phylacteries come to mind as well.


I kinda thought the Chantry used blood magic for that.  Kinda like it serves the greater good blah blah excueses.  Also I thought in the Mage origin they mention that they summoned a demon to you...sounds like the Chantry uses double standards


It is blood magic, I've always been curious about the mechanics behind it since from what I can gather, all templars have to do is hold it and the thing glows when it's near mages, but what's making it glow is what I wonder.

And yeah, the demon thing in the Harrowing. Yeeeeeeah. I really can't imagine living in the Circle with the Harrowing hanging over my head like that. Ugh.

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Camilladilla wrote...

Amondra wrote...

Camilladilla wrote...

There's power in blood in this game even if you're not a mage. Templars and phylacteries come to mind as well.


I kinda thought the Chantry used blood magic for that.  Kinda like it serves the greater good blah blah excueses.  Also I thought in the Mage origin they mention that they summoned a demon to you...sounds like the Chantry uses double standards


It is blood magic, I've always been curious about the mechanics behind it since from what I can gather, all templars have to do is hold it and the thing glows when it's near mages, but what's making it glow is what I wonder.

And yeah, the demon thing in the Harrowing. Yeeeeeeah. I really can't imagine living in the Circle with the Harrowing hanging over my head like that. Ugh.


Yeah nothing says your ****ed like "Hey we summoned a demon kill it or we kill you..."

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Camilladilla wrote...

Amondra wrote...

Camilladilla wrote...

There's power in blood in this game even if you're not a mage. Templars and phylacteries come to mind as well.


I kinda thought the Chantry used blood magic for that.  Kinda like it serves the greater good blah blah excueses.  Also I thought in the Mage origin they mention that they summoned a demon to you...sounds like the Chantry uses double standards


It is blood magic, I've always been curious about the mechanics behind it since from what I can gather, all templars have to do is hold it and the thing glows when it's near mages, but what's making it glow is what I wonder.

And yeah, the demon thing in the Harrowing. Yeeeeeeah. I really can't imagine living in the Circle with the Harrowing hanging over my head like that. Ugh.


The thing is, nothing can guarantee that a mage will resist a demon and not go on a killing spree. If you resist it once in the harrowing theoretically you should be able to resist again. But then again some mages WANT that power so they go looking for the demons themselves in order to learn etc. So it's just really ****ed up. The Chantry as an institution is so full of hypocracy and **** that it gives me a headache but I'm not sure if there's an alternative to the harrowing.  It's not the mages' fault they were born mages but it isn't anyone else's fault either (as far as we know now) ahajkahka the loop is hurting my brain >.<

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Whelp, Sandal's got the right of it. Just make everyone a mage.

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Ninche wrote...

Camilladilla wrote...

Amondra wrote...

Camilladilla wrote...

There's power in blood in this game even if you're not a mage. Templars and phylacteries come to mind as well.


I kinda thought the Chantry used blood magic for that.  Kinda like it serves the greater good blah blah excueses.  Also I thought in the Mage origin they mention that they summoned a demon to you...sounds like the Chantry uses double standards


It is blood magic, I've always been curious about the mechanics behind it since from what I can gather, all templars have to do is hold it and the thing glows when it's near mages, but what's making it glow is what I wonder.

And yeah, the demon thing in the Harrowing. Yeeeeeeah. I really can't imagine living in the Circle with the Harrowing hanging over my head like that. Ugh.


The thing is, nothing can guarantee that a mage will resist a demon and not go on a killing spree. If you resist it once in the harrowing theoretically you should be able to resist again. But then again some mages WANT that power so they go looking for the demons themselves in order to learn etc. So it's just really ****ed up. The Chantry as an institution is so full of hypocracy and **** that it gives me a headache but I'm not sure if there's an alternative to the harrowing.  It's not the mages' fault they were born mages but it isn't anyone else's fault either (as far as we know now) ahajkahka the loop is hurting my brain >.<


they don't have to throw you in the deep end. have an enchanter go with you or something

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Well, the whole point of the Harrowing is to see if the apprentice is capable of recognizing a demon and refusing it's offer. Having supervision defeats its purpose, it's a necessary evil I suppose and like Ninche pointed out it's no guarantee that a Harrowed mage just won't up and seek out a demon anyway.