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[Kawamura]

bleetman wrote...

What bothers me more are the 'Justice made him bisexual' arguments. As though bisexuality is a ****ing ailment.

I guess "Justice is blind" ===> "anyone is free to ride the Justice?"

It's hard for me to imagine Anders not being sexually attracted to anyone that, you know, treats him well. It seems like he's one of those people for whom kindness and sexual feelings sorta twist around each other, so he's more a "not a jerk to me, touches me kindly"-sexaul than a "bisexual".

[SmilingDeceit]

phantomdragoness wrote...

Surprise buttsechs insert
by Serrifth

Oh babeh- sign me up for some of that <3

[AquilaChrysaetos86]

Ser Pounce-a-Lot to the rescue!

[YamiSnuffles]

I don't get why all the focus is on his orientation either. I think the discussion we were having earlier about his mental health is much more interesting and discussion worthy (even if it's depressing). Instead people ignore that completely and go on endlessly about how he gave them the gay or whatever it is they're worried about.

Granted, I suppose it's hard to talk about that kind of stuff with people who are of the opinion that he was perfectly mentally sound in Awakening.

[Amondra]

Kawamura wrote...

bleetman wrote...

What bothers me more are the 'Justice made him bisexual' arguments. As though bisexuality is a ****ing ailment.

I guess "Justice is blind" ===> "anyone is free to ride the Justice?"

It's hard for me to imagine Anders not being sexually attracted to anyone that, you know, treats him well. It seems like he's one of those people for whom kindness and sexual feelings sorta twist around each other, so he's more a "not a jerk to me, touches me kindly"-sexaul than a "bisexual".

Agreed and considering what he is and what he knows he has done, it just wants someone to accecpt him and if they happen to care about him, the better.  He gets to feel human and loved at once?!  Yeah I see him falling for Hawke male or female because of that alone.

Also ROFL free Justice rides.

[mesmerizedish]

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

Ser Pounce-a-Lot to the rescue!

*snip*

Well, well, well, Ser Pounce-a-Lot... you've certainly filled out 

[AquilaChrysaetos86]

Kawamura wrote...

bleetman wrote...

What bothers me more are the 'Justice made him bisexual' arguments. As though bisexuality is a ****ing ailment.

I guess "Justice is blind" ===> "anyone is free to ride the Justice?"

It's hard for me to imagine Anders not being sexually attracted to anyone that, you know, treats him well. It seems like he's one of those people for whom kindness and sexual feelings sorta twist around each other, so he's more a "not a jerk to me, touches me kindly"-sexaul than a "bisexual".

I still ascribe to the pansexual theory.

Which of course makes the bottom right of this picture hilarious to me:

[Purposeof-Flight]

So, you guys.
I guess bisexuals no longer know how bisexuality "works".
Doomed. We're all doomed.
-sobs into someone's bosom-

[Ryzaki]

After Hepler's mental illness quote I can no longer find blowing up the Chantry amusing. :/

[AquilaChrysaetos86]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

Ser Pounce-a-Lot to the rescue!

*snip*

Well, well, well, Ser Pounce-a-Lot... you've certainly filled out 

It was all those Templars. They're quite filling y'know.

[autumnyte]

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

So, you guys.
I guess bisexuals no longer know how bisexuality "works".
Doomed. We're all doomed.
-sobs into someone's bosom-

Apparently not. We either don't exist or are DOIN IT WRONG.

[Amondra]

Ryzaki wrote...

After Hepler's mental illness quote I can no longer find blowing up the Chantry amusing. :/

oh? Can you link it so I can read please?

[AquilaChrysaetos86]

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

So, you guys.
I guess bisexuals no longer know how bisexuality "works".
Doomed. We're all doomed.
-sobs into someone's bosom-

Wait, whut?

RAGE!!

[Purposeof-Flight]

autumnyte wrote...

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

So, you guys.
I guess bisexuals no longer know how bisexuality "works".
Doomed. We're all doomed.
-sobs into someone's bosom-

Apparently not. We either don't exist or are DOIN IT WRONG.

Better go back to bisexuality school.

[YamiSnuffles]

Amondra wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

bleetman wrote...

What bothers me more are the 'Justice made him bisexual' arguments. As though bisexuality is a ****ing ailment.

I guess "Justice is blind" ===> "anyone is free to ride the Justice?"

It's hard for me to imagine Anders not being sexually attracted to anyone that, you know, treats him well. It seems like he's one of those people for whom kindness and sexual feelings sorta twist around each other, so he's more a "not a jerk to me, touches me kindly"-sexaul than a "bisexual".

Agreed and considering what he is and what he knows he has done, it just wants someone to accecpt him and if they happen to care about him, the better.  He gets to feel human and loved at once?!  Yeah I see him falling for Hawke male or female because of that alone.

Also ROFL free Justice rides.

That's a good point too. I mean, the game even presents it partly as Anders falls for Hawke because Hawke is able to look beyond the Justice thing and see him as a human (albeit, a bit of a damaged human).

And I second the Justice ride ROFLing.

[bleetman]

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

Oh biphobia. They're just jealous that we get our pick of 100% of the population, and still wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. Lol

Hah. Yes. I should look at it that way too.

[Purposeof-Flight]

bleetman wrote...

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

Oh biphobia. They're just jealous that we get our pick of 100% of the population, and still wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. Lol

Hah. Yes. I should look at it that way too.

The best way to look at it, in my opinion.

[Kawamura]

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

bleetman wrote...

What bothers me more are the 'Justice made him bisexual' arguments. As though bisexuality is a ****ing ailment.

I guess "Justice is blind" ===> "anyone is free to ride the Justice?"

It's hard for me to imagine Anders not being sexually attracted to anyone that, you know, treats him well. It seems like he's one of those people for whom kindness and sexual feelings sorta twist around each other, so he's more a "not a jerk to me, touches me kindly"-sexaul than a "bisexual".

I still ascribe to the pansexual theory.

Which of course makes the bottom right of this picture hilarious to me:

I prefer not labeling it, really.

I think he's a broken, miserable man who isn't getting any of his needs met (proper nutrition, safety, shelter, sexual activity, rest, etc, etc) and just the idea that someone is willing to touch him would be far more important than whatever he previously felt he identified as.

But, I'm also in the middle on ... a lot of things, perhaps other people don't work like that, since I see that as what more of my response would be.

[Inzhuna]

So I'll probably get ninja'd but here it is

As the writer of Anders, and many other aspects of DAII, I found this an interesting and thoughtful examination of what we tried to do with the game. I do find it odd, though, that Anders is not discussed in regards to the treatment of the mentally ill. For me, that is primarily what his relationship is about — the difficulties of loving and trying to help someone who struggles with a part of himself that he cannot control and may never be able to control. It is certainly the experience I drew from when writing him, and I think it uses the fantasy setting in the way I most prefer to see — providing a magical metaphor for exploring real-world problems. To me, this is the central feature of his character — not whether he is gay or straight, but the inner demons (personified as Justice/Vengeance), which both he and you, as his lover, must struggle against every day.

edit: link to article http://borderhouseblog.com/?p=4823

Modifié par Inzhuna, 21 avril 2011 - 03:20 .

[Ryzaki]

Amondra wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

After Hepler's mental illness quote I can no longer find blowing up the Chantry amusing. :/

oh? Can you link it so I can read please?

Edit: Ninja'd.

http://social.biowar...50/1197#7154238

Modifié par Ryzaki, 21 avril 2011 - 03:19 .

[phantomdragoness]

Amondra wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

After Hepler's mental illness quote I can no longer find blowing up the Chantry amusing. :/

oh? Can you link it so I can read please?

I'll say it. I still find it awesome.

But the awesomeness is now tainted...

Poor Anders.

[mellifera]

meonlyred wrote...


There is a bazaar amount of Kaidan hate. That he is gay, boring, whiny, etc. I was stunned when I seen the level of hate. I was like, "are we playing the same game here?"

I wish.... or at least bisexual

[silver-crescent]

Ryzaki wrote...

After Hepler's mental illness quote I can no longer find blowing up the Chantry amusing. :/

Does it actually make any difference though? Jennifer just said Anders was all about trying to control a part of him he couldn't/fighting his demons. That's hardly different from what we knew already.

It's not like she said he was suffering from dementia or something.

[YamiSnuffles]

yukidama wrote...

meonlyred wrote...


There is a bazaar amount of Kaidan hate. That he is gay, boring, whiny, etc. I was stunned when I seen the level of hate. I was like, "are we playing the same game here?"

I wish.... or at least bisexual

I read boring as boning. Proof that I either need to sleep or stop talking about necroboners. Pfft, who am I kidding? I can never stop talking about necroboners.

[bleetman]

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

Better go back to bisexuality school.

Man, the exams in that place were brutal.

Modifié par bleetman, 21 avril 2011 - 03:22 .