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[Inzhuna]

...I think I'm dead. From happiness. OMG.

edit: How appropriate! Reposting the glorious Ginders by the glorious YamiSnuffles

Modifié par Inzhuna, 22 avril 2011 - 04:58 .

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Dunizel wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

(Because seriously, Anders seems most like the old Anders when Nathaniel is involved. must be true love *is shot* XD)

Must be, it is! Look how he talks about Nate with Delilah, and how they still joke like old friends...they are adorable.

Erm, seriously, I think that he misses the time in  Amaranthine with our Warden. In my ending he always considered Vigil's Keep his home.
Oh, how I wish things stayed like that...In my happy place, somewhere in my head, Nate is even the Warden Commander, with Anders at his side of course, while our Warden goes who knows where.

I really think Anders misses a family, that's why he grew fond of the life in the keep, and that's why he clings to Hawke later on

Side note, I thought Pounce-a-Lot ws with Delilah, or maybe her son, but seems not...he would have asked about him!

I know, I keep thinking of the Awakening companions as sort of one big dysfunctional family.
I want them back!!!

I think Sigrun has pounce.

[Lady Jess]

Dunizel wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

(Because seriously, Anders seems most like the old Anders when Nathaniel is involved. must be true love *is shot* XD

Must be, it is! Look how he talks about Nate with Delilah, and how they still joke like old friends...they are adorable.

Erm, seriously, I think that he misses the time in  Amaranthine with our Warden. In my ending he always considered Vigil's Keep his home.
Oh, how I wish things stayed like that...In my happy place, somewhere in my head, Nate is even the Warden Commander, with Anders at his side of course, while our Warden goes who knows where.

I really think Anders misses a family, that's why he grew fond of the life in the keep, and that's why he clings to Hawke later on

Side note, I thought Pounce-a-Lot ws with Delilah, or maybe her son, but seems not...he would have asked about him!

I vote for Sigrun. The two really got along well I think. And at least in my only Awakening playthrough (go go Amell) she stuck around because there were always conveniently things only SHE could do. So I'll venture one of them was take Pounce:D

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

YamiSnuffles wrote...

Well, it took extra long because I cannot argue and draw at the same time.

The terror majesty that is Ginders. And this time he gets to be a true ginger, because he couldn't be a Weasley any other way.

<3<3<3

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Lady Jess wrote...

I vote for Sigrun. The two really got along well I think. And at least in my only Awakening playthrough (go go Amell) she stuck around because there were always conveniently things only SHE could do. So I'll venture one of them was take Pounce:D

Definately Sigrun.
I wonder what she would have made of the DA2 cast?

[Sialater]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

I vote for Sigrun. The two really got along well I think. And at least in my only Awakening playthrough (go go Amell) she stuck around because there were always conveniently things only SHE could do. So I'll venture one of them was take Pounce:D

Definately Sigrun.
I wonder what she would have made of the DA2 cast?

They'd have annoyed her no end.  All brooders, every last one.  And she'd have to deck Varric for coming on to her.

She'd have adored Isabella, though.

[Heidenreich]

Sigrun: It's a real shame I'm dead. Your chest hair is glorious. Can I touch it?

Varric: No. If I wont let Isabela or Hawke touch it, why would I let a dead girl touch it?

Sigrun: becuase I'm a dwarf?

Varric: You have a point... sadly, Bianca would get jealous.

Sigrun: Your.. crossbow?

Varric: That would be she.

Sigrun: And you people think I'm weird.

[YamiSnuffles]

Sialater wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

I vote for Sigrun. The two really got along well I think. And at least in my only Awakening playthrough (go go Amell) she stuck around because there were always conveniently things only SHE could do. So I'll venture one of them was take Pounce:D

Definately Sigrun.
I wonder what she would have made of the DA2 cast?

They'd have annoyed her no end.  All brooders, every last one.  And she'd have to deck Varric for coming on to her.

She'd have adored Isabella, though.

Aw, you guys are making me miss Sigrun.

[Tasmen]

YamiSnuffles wrote...

Well, it took extra long because I cannot argue and draw at the same time.

The terror majesty that is Ginders. And this time he gets to be a true ginger, because he couldn't be a Weasley any other way.

I love you in more ways than I can count at present.

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

YamiSnuffles wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

I vote for Sigrun. The two really got along well I think. And at least in my only Awakening playthrough (go go Amell) she stuck around because there were always conveniently things only SHE could do. So I'll venture one of them was take Pounce:D

Definately Sigrun.
I wonder what she would have made of the DA2 cast?

They'd have annoyed her no end.  All brooders, every last one.  And she'd have to deck Varric for coming on to her.

She'd have adored Isabella, though.

Aw, you guys are making me miss Sigrun.

I demand Sigrun in DA3!!!
(And Nate, and Oghren, and Anders, and Zevran, and Alistair, and Sten, and Varric, and Cullen, and...)

[silver-crescent]

highcastle wrote...

I don't see what Anders did as a betrayal. He's not lashing out at you, he's fighting a societal issue. He also makes it clear his cause is more important than anything else. In lying to Hawke he was largely trying to protect him by keeping his hands clean. He may have manipulated you, but since he made his intentions clear I don't see it as a betrayal. Hopefully that makes sense but I suspect it doesn't (the perils of posting in class, alas).

Yeah that's how I saw it too, especially in a friend/friendromance situation.

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Oh Maker...
I was playing awakening just now, and hey, do you remember this dialogue?

-I understand that you struggle against your oppression mage.
I avoid my oppression, that's not quite the same thing, is it?
-Why do you not strike a blow against your oppressors? Ensure they can do this to no one else?
Because it sounds difficult?
-Apathy is a weakness.
So is death, I'm just saying!

Oh God, Anders, why!?

[Ryzaki]

silver-crescent wrote...

highcastle wrote...

I don't see what Anders did as a betrayal. He's not lashing out at you, he's fighting a societal issue. He also makes it clear his cause is more important than anything else. In lying to Hawke he was largely trying to protect him by keeping his hands clean. He may have manipulated you, but since he made his intentions clear I don't see it as a betrayal. Hopefully that makes sense but I suspect it doesn't (the perils of posting in class, alas).

Yeah that's how I saw it too, especially in a friend/friendromance situation.

It's easy to get that impression from rivalry though. He tells you he's gonna try to fix it (in normal rivalry) and then he's all "this had to be done." Wat? 

But that's due to a bug. 

[silver-crescent]

I think Sigun and Varric would make an awesome couple. It'd be cool if she returned for the obviously "Bianca's Tale" DLC

[Ninche]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Oh Maker...
I was playing awakening just now, and hey, do you remember this dialogue?

-I understand that you struggle against your oppression mage.
I avoid my oppression, that's not quite the same thing, is it?
-Why do you not strike a blow against your oppressors? Ensure they can do this to no one else?
Because it sounds difficult?
-Apathy is a weakness.
So is death, I'm just saying!

Oh God, Anders, why!?

 *hugs*

[Ninche]

Ryzaki wrote...

silver-crescent wrote...

highcastle wrote...

I don't see what Anders did as a betrayal. He's not lashing out at you, he's fighting a societal issue. He also makes it clear his cause is more important than anything else. In lying to Hawke he was largely trying to protect him by keeping his hands clean. He may have manipulated you, but since he made his intentions clear I don't see it as a betrayal. Hopefully that makes sense but I suspect it doesn't (the perils of posting in class, alas).

Yeah that's how I saw it too, especially in a friend/friendromance situation.

It's easy to get that impression from rivalry though. He tells you he's gonna try to fix it (in normal rivalry) and then he's all "this had to be done." Wat? 

But that's due to a bug. 

To be honest I never saw his actions as betrayal to ME. It was actually weird when people started calling it that. I was like... he didn't blow up my house with my grandmother inside or w/e why is this about ME? It was never about ME. What broke my heart was the realisation that there is something much more importaint than our love. From there it was a simple choice - I can get over it and spend the rest of my days with him anyway, OR choose to leave. This was possibly the easiest choice I made in the game.

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Ninche wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Oh Maker...
I was playing awakening just now, and hey, do you remember this dialogue?

-I understand that you struggle against your oppression mage.
I avoid my oppression, that's not quite the same thing, is it?
-Why do you not strike a blow against your oppressors? Ensure they can do this to no one else?
Because it sounds difficult?
-Apathy is a weakness.
So is death, I'm just saying!

Oh God, Anders, why!?

 *hugs*

*hugs back* 
The true heartbreak was not in the ending of DA2, it was in replaying Awakening

I have the urge to draw an Awakening Grey-Warden family reuinion now.
With Sa'eria, Nate, Oghren, Sigrun and Velanna (yes, I had high approval with her too) welcoming Anders back in their own unique ways.
Because he will be going back. Oh yes, he bloody well will.

Modifié par Dreaming-in-Shadow, 22 avril 2011 - 05:40 .

[Ryzaki]

Oh! Was Hepler's comment ever posted?

[morbusswg]

To be honest I never saw his actions as betrayal to ME. It was actually weird when people started calling it that. I was like... he didn't blow up my house with my grandmother inside or w/e why is this about ME? It was never about ME. What broke my heart was the realisation that there is something much more importaint than our love. From there it was a simple choice - I can get over it and spend the rest of my days with him anyway, OR choose to leave. This was possibly the easiest choice I made in the game.

^^This

I was more upset he didn't trust me enough to tell me... Like when your boyfriend hangs out with that group of guys you don't like... and he doesn't tell you because he knows you'll be mad... like that, but on a larger scale... I wouldn't break up with him for it, but I'd definitely be PO'd he didn't tell me...

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Ryzaki wrote...

Oh! Was Hepler's comment ever posted?

Not yet, no.

[Magaloo]

Ninche wrote...

To be honest I never saw his actions as betrayal to ME. It was actually weird when people started calling it that. I was like... he didn't blow up my house with my grandmother inside or w/e why is this about ME? It was never about ME. What broke my heart was the realisation that there is something much more importaint than our love. From there it was a simple choice - I can get over it and spend the rest of my days with him anyway, OR choose to leave. This was possibly the easiest choice I made in the game.

I felt the same way especially since I decided to play a mage who though diplomatic was fighting for the mage rights.  As you said it was bigger than ME.  It was a call greater than just Hawke and the broody band of misfits he collected.  Bigger than Kirkwall.  I was surprised (because unlike many i did not realise sulphur/fertiliser... Jenga boom!) but did not feel betrayal but more ah relief that finally I knew what was bothering Anders and what he kept from Hawke.  Made me understand his tormented attitude.

Also... I have emergencies at work/home for 10 days and I come back to 400 pages and no kissing... *sad*

[Ryzaki]

Ninche wrote...
To be honest I never saw his actions as betrayal to ME. It was actually weird when people started calling it that. I was like... he didn't blow up my house with my grandmother inside or w/e why is this about ME? It was never about ME. What broke my heart was the realisation that there is something much more importaint than our love. From there it was a simple choice - I can get over it and spend the rest of my days with him anyway, OR choose to leave. This was possibly the easiest choice I made in the game. 

I felt used. The only reason it was an easy choice was game mechanics. I didn't have a healer and I didn't have any potions. <_< So GM pretty much decided for me. 

[silver-crescent]

Ryzaki wrote...

Oh! Was Hepler's comment ever posted?

No, she hasn't said anything yet.

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Ninche wrote...

To be honest I never saw his actions as betrayal to ME. It was actually weird when people started calling it that. I was like... he didn't blow up my house with my grandmother inside or w/e why is this about ME? It was never about ME. What broke my heart was the realisation that there is something much more importaint than our love. From there it was a simple choice - I can get over it and spend the rest of my days with him anyway, OR choose to leave. This was possibly the easiest choice I made in the game.

I was kind of relieved over the Chantry going "boom" for two reasons:
1) I thought Anders was going to kill himself or something. Or be publicly executed which would make me cry. FOREVER. 

2) Thank god he didn't actually drink that stuff! 

I was only angry when he seemed surprised over the massacre that ensued.

Modifié par Dreaming-in-Shadow, 22 avril 2011 - 05:44 .

[YamiSnuffles]

I don't think I ever felt betrayed. The emotional blackmail made me mad at him but when things went down, I understood that. I think if anything, most of the hurt I felt was in no way related to Hawke. I felt terrible for Anders. I felt bad about how everything had gone down with Justice and his downward spiral throughout the game. It felt bad that there was this huge thing on his shoulders that I couldn't do anything about.