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[Ryzaki]

kromify wrote...
where justice is peanut butter and hence beling in the void itself, and anders is sweet sweet strawberry jam (yes JAM i'm english!) that i can spread on my bread...   or something  

I love peanutbutter...just...not without something else. And jam...jam...*salivates*. Nothing is better than strawberry jam. 

And yes freshly toasted bread and..*is now hungry* Damnit. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 25 avril 2011 - 10:45 .

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

kromify wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

kromify wrote...
i could also say that the person i was 5 years ago has ceased to exists; my experiences have changed me. i've changed.
anders is like a potato, and justice is cheese. together they make a lovely dinner, but it is still just a potato with cheese on top, not an amalgamated mash. together but distinct
until i eat my dinner of course  

You've now reminded me of those peanut butter and jelly in the same jars abominations.  And I can't stop seeing Anders and Justice as such. Two things that do not belong in the same container forced into it by someone with a sick mind. 

where justice is peanut butter and hence beling in the void itself, and anders is sweet sweet strawberry jam (yes JAM i'm english!) that i can spread on my bread...   or something  

For a moment, I read that as "that I can spread on my head"

Jam! Fish and Chips! Bangers and Mash!
"Bloody hell, Justice is a right wanker!" - quoteth a friend of mine. (I'm not kidding)

[Miri1984]

Someone said that when he's in the fade he's Anders flavoured Justice and when he's in the conscious world he's Justice flavoured Anders.

I like that analogy. Totally not because it makes me think of licking Anders.

[kromify]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

kromify wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

kromify wrote...
i could also say that the person i was 5 years ago has ceased to exists; my experiences have changed me. i've changed.
anders is like a potato, and justice is cheese. together they make a lovely dinner, but it is still just a potato with cheese on top, not an amalgamated mash. together but distinct
until i eat my dinner of course  

You've now reminded me of those peanut butter and jelly in the same jars abominations.  And I can't stop seeing Anders and Justice as such. Two things that do not belong in the same container forced into it by someone with a sick mind. 

where justice is peanut butter and hence beling in the void itself, and anders is sweet sweet strawberry jam (yes JAM i'm english!) that i can spread on my bread...   or something  

For a moment, I read that as "that I can spread on my head"

Jam! Fish and Chips! Bangers and Mash!
"Bloody hell, Justice is a right wanker!" - quoteth a friend of mine. (I'm not kidding)

let me spread some on your head...  or something   

[YamiSnuffles]

signcherie wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...


Do you want:
1) Meredanders
2) Rainbow happy Anders
3) Pole dancing Anders?

All of the above?

@Yami -- yay! so we might get better crack for having had the serious? 

As it is, I think naming the town Andersbutt broke me for the day anyway, haha. At some point after all this, I will barf out some more madness to make myself feel better. It's cathartic that way. Oh, and I suppose I better track down the two posts I made for the fic today so I can keep track of it all.

[kromify]

 oh look i've just noticed what a carp speler craper sppeler crap speller i am

Modifié par kromify, 25 avril 2011 - 10:51 .

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Attention passengers, we appear to be leaving Emo-Land and heading straight for crack-island.
Please remain seated as we approach Andersbutt all around insanity.

[purplecookie]

Ryzaki wrote...

silver-crescent wrote...

 I think  I have a bad influence on this thread. Whenever I come here everyone's posting funny pics and lulzing. Then I'm all like "HAY GUYS ANDERS MENTAL STATE!!!1" and then it all goes downhill 

It's the interesting kind of downhill though.  Plus someone will post another Anders as Ginny picture soon enough. 

Much like Anders himself, eh

[YamiSnuffles]

To anyone interested, Tempering Justice updated.

[silver-crescent]

Miri1984 wrote...

Someone said that when he's in the fade he's Anders flavoured Justice and when he's in the conscious world he's Justice flavoured Anders.

I like that analogy. Totally not because it makes me think of licking Anders.

I like it too. I still have to try taking Anders to the Fade. Haven't done so yet.

[kromify]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Attention passengers, we appear to be leaving Emo-Land and heading straight for crack-island.
Please remain seated as we approach Andersbutt all around insanity.

the anders thread is more fun
everybody's cracking everybody 


does that even make sense? oh well 

[AtreiyaN7]

yukidama wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...
3) Pole dancing Anders?

Paste Anders' head on.

Instant success.

It somehow seems wrong that such a cute bunny rabbit is pole dancing - but it's also funny. *snicker*

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

...I want to see the DA2 cast drawn Simpson-style...
I dunno why...

[ipgd]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

ipgd wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

I find it kind of insulting that people think that just because there's another... conciousness in the background waiting to emerge, a person ceases to be. I'm not in Anders' situation, but I can sympathise... I think...

But Justice isn't just waiting in the background. They've merged and share the same consciousness.

But Justice isn't the one always in control. He's always conscious, but not always in control. He is in the background.

To sort of expand more on this, this is how I've seen it: Anders and Justice are merged. They fully share the same mind and thoughts. Where the disconnect manifests is in cognitive dissonance, wherein the combined Justice-Anders entity holds multiple conflicting opinions about the same issue. He knows enough about his situation and his past separate lives to be able to attribute each conflicting opinion to the different "aspects" of himself that correspond to either Justice or Anders, and so that's how he explains it, deliberately personifying each aspect of himself (at least partly to absolve his initially Anders-identified self from responsibility for his actions). At the beginning, his "Anders" aspect is dominant due to the immediate familiarity of the host body. Over the course of the game, he either begins to reconcile his cognitive dissonance (in the friendship path, with the "Justice" aspects taking predominance), or exacerbating it (in the rivalry path, with the "Anders" aspects resisting assimilation into the "Justice" ideals but being unable to quell them).

The "possessions" are a little more difficult to explain and is primarily what makes the whole thing seem inconsistent. The best I can make sense of it is that stressful stimulus acts as a sort of centrifuge effect, bringing his "Justice" aspects to the forefront in a way that makes them appear temporarily distinct. How much autonomy he actually has is unclear.

[silver-crescent]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Attention passengers, we appear to be leaving Emo-Land and heading straight for crack-island.
Please remain seated as we approach Andersbutt all around insanity.

This thread is so true to Anders, it even emulates his bipolarity <3

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

YamiSnuffles wrote...

To anyone interested, Tempering Justice updated.

Link plz? <3

[kromify]

silver-crescent wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Attention passengers, we appear to be leaving Emo-Land and heading straight for crack-island.
Please remain seated as we approach Andersbutt all around insanity.

This thread is so true to Anders, it even emulates his bipolarity <3

HA! totally!


also ipgd; your post totally confused me. which isn't hard btw  

Modifié par kromify, 25 avril 2011 - 10:58 .

[Sialater]

Miri1984 wrote...

Someone said that when he's in the fade he's Anders flavoured Justice and when he's in the conscious world he's Justice flavoured Anders.

I like that analogy. Totally not because it makes me think of licking Anders.

To be honest... I did. 

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

ipgd wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

ipgd wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

I find it kind of insulting that people think that just because there's another... conciousness in the background waiting to emerge, a person ceases to be. I'm not in Anders' situation, but I can sympathise... I think...

But Justice isn't just waiting in the background. They've merged and share the same consciousness.

But Justice isn't the one always in control. He's always conscious, but not always in control. He is in the background.

To sort of expand more on this, this is how I've seen it: Anders and Justice are merged. They fully share the same mind and thoughts. Where the disconnect manifests is in cognitive dissonance, wherein the combined Justice-Anders entity holds multiple conflicting opinions about the same issue. He knows enough about his situation and his past separate lives to be able to attribute each conflicting opinion to the different "aspects" of himself that correspond to either Justice or Anders, and so that's how he explains it, deliberately personifying each aspect of himself (at least partly to absolve his initially Anders-identified self from responsibility for his actions). At the beginning, his "Anders" aspect is dominant due to the immediate familiarity of the host body. Over the course of the game, he either begins to reconcile his cognitive dissonance (in the friendship path, with the "Justice" aspects taking predominance), or exacerbating it (in the rivalry path, with the "Anders" aspects resisting assimilation into the "Justice" ideals but being unable to quell them).

The "possessions" are a little more difficult to explain and is primarily what makes the whole thing seem inconsistent. The best I can make sense of it is that stressful stimulus acts as a sort of centrifuge effect, bringing his "Justice" aspects to the forefront in a way that makes them appear temporarily distinct. How much autonomy he actually has is unclear.

Makes sense.
Kind of what I was thinking and not explaining well... or whatever. I agree.

[Jean]

I always wondered why Anders'... bangs on his right side always looked like it was just plastered to his head.
Now I realize it's tucked behind his ear.

[YamiSnuffles]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...

To anyone interested, Tempering Justice updated.

Link plz? <3

Someday I'll remember to actually include links when I say things like that.

Tempering Justice

[ipgd]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Makes sense.
Kind of what I was thinking and not explaining well... or whatever. I agree.

isn't it sort of the opposite ?_?

[TripLight]

Sialater wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

Someone said that when he's in the fade he's Anders flavoured Justice and when he's in the conscious world he's Justice flavoured Anders.

I like that analogy. Totally not because it makes me think of licking Anders.

To be honest... I did. 

Guilty as well.

Also silver~crescent thank you so much for posting Helper's reply, it answers so many questions but also again brings to light so many questions.

[kromify]

okays well i'm off to bed peoples. g'night! may your dreams be filled filled with rainbows, kittens, and jam (whenever those dreams might be)

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

ipgd wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Makes sense.
Kind of what I was thinking and not explaining well... or whatever. I agree.

isn't it sort of the opposite ?_?

I'm tired and my head's a mess, so I'm probably not making very coherent arguments right now.