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[Camilladilla]

Threeparts wrote...

Camilladilla wrote...

And no one wonders why Thedas has this complicated system for marking down years... but they use Monday-Sunday for days of the week?

Oh, I've wondered that! Not that I mind, since it's irritating trying to keep multiple fantasy calendars straight.
This book series uses an 8-month year, that one a 12-day week, this game uses a lunar calender with stupid names, that one requires you to remember the names of all the frigging kings and the order they ascended to keep track of decades...
I like Tuesdays. Tuesday is ritual dismemberment day, and I can remember that!

Haaah I know I read plenty of fantasy books that I don't even bother trying to figure out their systems anymore, I really appreciated that they kept the days of the week simple instead of using something ridiculously complicated. I was just amused that a minor reference to a Greek myth raises eyebrows when we have Alistair talking about it being Tuesday.

ALSO how about the fact that Fenris apparently exists in their world (Leto too, hee, Fenris has a girl name!)

ToP: 

Modifié par Camilladilla, 27 avril 2011 - 07:06 .

[Inzhuna]

Miri1984 wrote...

Inzhuna wrote...

By the way, do you guys remember David Gaider posting that all possible outcomes for Anders will be accounted for? I sort of remember when people were raging before release he told that it'd be explained we should just wait.

But the possibility of never recruting Anders is not accounted for in DAII. Which makes me wonder if the proper codex entry is not appearing due to a glitch.

The possibility of never recruiting Anders is accounted for, he posted it in the forums. "Other grey wardens recruited him". He was a valuable asset to the wardens. If you handed him over to Rylock at the beginning then he escaped again and was recruited elsewhere in Thedas, and he met Justice... in the fade somewhere .

This is from pages back sorry but I went to sleep last night (yeah it's weird I know).

The codex still says he was recruited by THE Warden-Commander who he became friends with. And he always says he met Justice in Amaranthine.

I know Gaider said that but it's not in the game.

[Threeparts]

Camilladilla wrote...

Haaah I know I read plenty of fantasy books that I don't even bother trying to figure out their systems anymore, I really appreciated that they kept the days of the week simple instead of using something ridiculously complicated. I was just amused that a minor reference to a Greek myth raises eyebrows when we have Alistair talking about it being Tuesday.

Named in honor of an ancient and renowned Nevarran hero who fought back against the savage southern barbarians. They had already rampaged agross the Frostbacks and through Orlais when he rose from a shadowy past and inspired the common people to follow him.
It is said that he was blessed by the king of the underworld who granted him a sword make of the night itself, and that his lover was the daughter of the sun, who forged a second sword in her mother's womb for the hero, made from sunlight given solid form.
With these blades he led an army against the horde and defeated them soundly, and even now we remember him each week on the day he felled the leader of the barbarians in single combat. On that day, he cut the savages' leader into a thousand pieces and lined the border of Nevarra with his flesh.

We remember him: the great hero, Toos Dai!

Modifié par Threeparts, 27 avril 2011 - 07:15 .

[sassperella]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

sassperella wrote...

 Aww poor Anders I just got a piece of dialog from him I've not noticed before... Going up Sundermount on Merril's quest in Act 1 he says "If we had a giant rock to push uphill it would perfectly sum up my life."   

What a frakking whiner.

Well to be honest his life has hardly been all rainbows and flowers, even before Justice made his entrance. He's obviously having a down day that day.

[Inzhuna]

sassperella wrote...

Well to be honest his life has hardly been all rainbows and flowers, even before Justice made his entrance. He's obviously having a down day that day.

It's heartbreaking to hear him trying to change Merrill's mind, the way he says with such passion "You HAVE a choice, you ALWAYS had a choice." It's like he's trying to fix something in himself through her.

[Camilladilla]

Threeparts wrote...

Named in honor of an ancient and renowned Nevarran hero who fought back against the savage southern barbarians. They had already rampaged agross the Frostbacks and through Orlais when he rose from a shadowy past and inspired the common people to follow him.
It is said that he was blessed by the king of the underworld who granted him a sword make of the night itself, and that his lover was the daughter of the sun, who forged a second sword in her mother's womb for the hero, made from sunlight given solid form.
With these blades he led an army against the horde and defeated them soundly, and even now we remember him each week on the day he felled the leader of the barbarians in single combat. On that day, he cut the savages' leader into a thousand pieces and lined the border of Nevarra with his flesh.

We remember him: the great hero, Toos Dai!

Ahahahaha that was awesome XD

[Sable Rhapsody]

Inzhuna wrote...
It's heartbreaking to hear him trying to change Merrill's mind, the way he says with such passion "You HAVE a choice, you ALWAYS had a choice." It's like he's trying to fix something in himself through her.

Yeah, I got that impression too.  Though he's also a MASSIVE dick about it.  My Hawke rivalried Merrill not through being mean to her, but through being overprotective and a bit coddling.  She was not on with how Fenris and Anders treated Merrill.

[Inzhuna]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...
Yeah, I got that impression too.  Though he's also a MASSIVE dick about it.  My Hawke rivalried Merrill not through being mean to her, but through being overprotective and a bit coddling.  She was not on with how Fenris and Anders treated Merrill.

I really wanted to smack both of them.

[Kawamura]

See, this is the great thing about sci-fi.

We often get "tens" as a standard cycle. God, I get a kick out of that. Give me more base ten! Or, really any other base on my fingers (like base 5 or 12).

[Ashwraith]

Threeparts wrote...

Named in honor of an ancient and renowned Nevarran hero who fought back against the savage southern barbarians. They had already rampaged agross the Frostbacks and through Orlais when he rose from a shadowy past and inspired the common people to follow him.
It is said that he was blessed by the king of the underworld who granted him a sword make of the night itself, and that his lover was the daughter of the sun, who forged a second sword in her mother's womb for the hero, made from sunlight given solid form.
With these blades he led an army against the horde and defeated them soundly, and even now we remember him each week on the day he felled the leader of the barbarians in single combat. On that day, he cut the savages' leader into a thousand pieces and lined the border of Nevarra with his flesh.

We remember him: the great hero, Toos Dai!

Tell me, Threeparts- where would you like me to put those internets you just won?

Modifié par Ashwraith, 27 avril 2011 - 07:27 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

Inzhuna wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...
Yeah, I got that impression too.  Though he's also a MASSIVE dick about it.  My Hawke rivalried Merrill not through being mean to her, but through being overprotective and a bit coddling.  She was not on with how Fenris and Anders treated Merrill.

I really wanted to smack both of them.

I had Anders in my party the first time I did Merrill's Act 3 quest, and Fenris the second time.  The way they both just kick her when she's down made me furious.  I wish the option for Hawke to whack them upside the head was there, because it's what mine would've done.

[pagerunner]

Kawamura wrote...

See, this is the great thing about sci-fi.

We often get "tens" as a standard cycle. God, I get a kick out of that. Give me more base ten! Or, really any other base on my fingers (like base 5 or 12).

There's a great Mass Effect quote -- I'll have to paraphrase a bit, can't remember the exact phrasing, but it's by a turian (three fingers on each hand) griping about humans and their base ten math.  Too many fingers.... 

[Camilladilla]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Yeah, I got that impression too.  Though he's also a MASSIVE dick about it.  My Hawke rivalried Merrill not through being mean to her, but through being overprotective and a bit coddling.  She was not on with how Fenris and Anders treated Merrill.

I love Merrill to bits, but that entire sequence in the game made me rage and I was ridiculously lucky with the whole clan slaughtering bit since I made the right choice on accident. When we were leaving Sundermount and BOTH Anders and Fenris started ranting about how stupid the entire thing had been I just had to agree with them. They pretty much said what I wanted to say.

Of course the greater onus is on Hawke, he has the guts not to give Merrill the knife, but during all those years he didn't have it in him to drag that thing outta Merrill's house and dump it into the ocean?

Modifié par Camilladilla, 27 avril 2011 - 07:37 .

[mellifera]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Inzhuna wrote...
It's heartbreaking to hear him trying to change Merrill's mind, the way he says with such passion "You HAVE a choice, you ALWAYS had a choice." It's like he's trying to fix something in himself through her.

Yeah, I got that impression too.  Though he's also a MASSIVE dick about it.  My Hawke rivalried Merrill not through being mean to her, but through being overprotective and a bit coddling.  She was not on with how Fenris and Anders treated Merrill.

Yeah. My Hawke practically took Merrill on as his little sister, so he treated her the same way he would have treated Bethany had she gone down the same path. Totally rivaled her acting like a bit of a hardass but not in a cruel way as much as "I love you what are you doing stop that >:|||||||||" Poor guy, loses his family so has to redirect his affection to total nutters.

Modifié par yukidama, 27 avril 2011 - 07:36 .

[Kawamura]

pagerunner wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

See, this is the great thing about sci-fi.

We often get "tens" as a standard cycle. God, I get a kick out of that. Give me more base ten! Or, really any other base on my fingers (like base 5 or 12).

There's a great Mass Effect quote -- I'll have to paraphrase a bit, can't remember the exact phrasing, but it's by a turian (three fingers on each hand) griping about humans and their base ten math.  Too many fingers.... 

Base-twelve is one of my favourites. I use my finger-joints to count often (if I have to keep track, such as when I was trying to figure out if a song I was listening to was in iambic pentameter.

Better than base sixty, I tell you what. Stupid Babylonians.

<secretly loves base sixty>

[Inzhuna]

Camilladilla wrote...

I love Merrill to bits, but that entire sequence in the game made me raging and I was ridiculously lucky with the whole clan slaughtering bit since I made the right choice on accident. When we were leaving Sundermount and BOTH Anders and Fenris started ranting about how stupid the entire thing had been I just had to agree with them. They pretty much said what I wanted to say.

Of course the greater onus is on Hawke, he has the guts not to give Merrill the knife, but during all those years he didn't have it in him to drag that thing outta Merrill's house and dump it into the ocean?

I agree that it was stupid and pointless, but it's just unnecessarily cruel to beat Merrill down with it when she's already absolutely devastated.

I also only found out about the clan slaughtering later on the forum. I hate that section. It just seems silly that they'd all keep fighting to the end. Wouldn't they stop and yield when Hawke and co managed to effotlessly slaughter so many?

[Sable Rhapsody]

yukidama wrote...

Yeah. My Hawke practically took Merrill on as his little sister, so he treated her the same way he would have treated Bethany had she gone down the same path. Totally rivaled her acting like a bit of a hardass but not in a cruel way as much as "I love you what are you doing stop that >:|||||||||" Poor guy, loses his family so has to redirect his affection to total nutters.

Merrill was totally replacement sis for my Hawke too.  Also, that last sentence is SO TRUE.  Your party members become your new family, and with few exceptions, they are a bunch of wackjobs.  

Thank the Maker for Varric.

[Threeparts]

Inzhuna wrote...

I also only found out about the clan slaughtering later on the forum. I hate that section. It just seems silly that they'd all keep fighting to the end. Wouldn't they stop and yield when Hawke and co managed to effotlessly slaughter so many?

Rule Number One of Kirkwall: Everyone is mad.

It's Alice in Wonderland, really. The opening scene in Kirkwall really should have been...

'That depends a good deal on where you want to get to,' said Varric.
'I don't much care where--' said Hawke.
'Then it doesn't matter which way you go,' said the Dwarf.
'--so long as I get somewhere,' Hawke added as an explanation.
'Oh, you're sure to do that,' said Varric, 'if you only walk long enough.'
Hawke felt that this could not be denied, so he tried another question. 'What sort of people live about here?'
'In that direction,' Varric said, waving his right hand round, 'lives a pirate: and in that direction,' waving the other hand, 'lives a Fereldan apostate. Visit either you like: they're both mad.'
'But I don't want to go among mad people,' Hawke remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that,' said Varric: 'we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
'How do you know I'm mad?' said Hawke.
'You must be,' said the Dwarf, 'or you wouldn't have come here.'

Modifié par Threeparts, 27 avril 2011 - 07:52 .

[Inzhuna]

Threeparts wrote...
Rule Number One of Kirkwall: Everyone is mad.
It's Alice in Wonderland, really. The opening scene in Kirkwall really should have been...
'That depends a good deal on where you want to get to,' said Varric.'I don't much care where--' said Hawke.'Then it doesn't matter which way you go,' said the Dwarf.'--so long as I get somewhere,' Hawke added as an explanation.'Oh, you're sure to do that,' said Varric, 'if you only walk long enough.'Hawke felt that this could not be denied, so he tried another question. 'What sort of people live about here?''In that direction,' Varric said, waving its right hand round, 'lives a pirate: and in that direction,' waving the other hand, 'lives a Ferelden apostate. Visit either you like: they're both mad.''But I don't want to go among mad people,' Hawke remarked.'Oh, you can't help that,' said Varric: 'we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.''How do you know I'm mad?' said Hawke.'You must be,' said the Dwarf, 'or you wouldn't have come here.'

ILU

[Trophonius]

Camilladilla wrote...

I love Merrill to bits, but that entire sequence in the game made me raging and I was ridiculously lucky with the whole clan slaughtering bit since I made the right choice on accident. When we were leaving Sundermount and BOTH Anders and Fenris started ranting about how stupid the entire thing had been I just had to agree with them. They pretty much said what I wanted to say.

Well, it's not entirely Merrill's fault anyway. Marethari was spreading lies about her and overstating the idea that Merrill's trying to fix a tainted eluvian, when it's been, in fact, cleansed. She's probably only one of the few blood mages who had a sympathetic excuse. I think Anders, deep down, only wants her to stray from a path all too similar to his. He doesn't want to have to look at her like a mirror reflection constantly reminding him of the time when he conceded himself to a demon.

Modifié par Trophonius, 27 avril 2011 - 08:22 .

[eleridragon]

Threeparts wrote...

Inzhuna wrote...

I also only found out about the clan slaughtering later on the forum. I hate that section. It just seems silly that they'd all keep fighting to the end. Wouldn't they stop and yield when Hawke and co managed to effotlessly slaughter so many?

Rule Number One of Kirkwall: Everyone is mad.

It's Alice in Wonderland, really. The opening scene in Kirkwall really should have been...

'That depends a good deal on where you want to get to,' said Varric.
'I don't much care where--' said Hawke.
'Then it doesn't matter which way you go,' said the Dwarf.
'--so long as I get somewhere,' Hawke added as an explanation.
'Oh, you're sure to do that,' said Varric, 'if you only walk long enough.'
Hawke felt that this could not be denied, so he tried another question. 'What sort of people live about here?'
'In that direction,' Varric said, waving his right hand round, 'lives a pirate: and in that direction,' waving the other hand, 'lives a Fereldan apostate. Visit either you like: they're both mad.'
'But I don't want to go among mad people,' Hawke remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that,' said Varric: 'we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
'How do you know I'm mad?' said Hawke.
'You must be,' said the Dwarf, 'or you wouldn't have come here.'

<3 and *hug* at Threeparts for that.  (and cookies, never forget the cookies)

[Amondra]

Camilladilla wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Yeah, I got that impression too.  Though he's also a MASSIVE dick about it.  My Hawke rivalried Merrill not through being mean to her, but through being overprotective and a bit coddling.  She was not on with how Fenris and Anders treated Merrill.

I love Merrill to bits, but that entire sequence in the game made me rage and I was ridiculously lucky with the whole clan slaughtering bit since I made the right choice on accident. When we were leaving Sundermount and BOTH Anders and Fenris started ranting about how stupid the entire thing had been I just had to agree with them. They pretty much said what I wanted to say.

Of course the greater onus is on Hawke, he has the guts not to give Merrill the knife, but during all those years he didn't have it in him to drag that thing outta Merrill's house and dump it into the ocean?

I took their tough love as a "See this is what happens with demons."  well Anders was more of. "DID YOU NOT SEE WHAT I ALMOST DID TO THAT GIRL?!"

I mean really Anders and my Hawke were beating her over the head with it.  She even at one point told Anders no spirit is good...so why are we dealing with yours? Oh becsuse he was nice...You know at least Justice always was a dick.

[Inzhuna]

I was watching the new Linkin Park video for the song "Burning in the skies" and it occured to me every song I like these days seems to somehow relate to Anders

I used the dead wood to make the fire rise
The blood of innocents burning in the skies
I filled my cup with the rising of the sea
And poured it out in an ocean of debris

I'm swimming in the smoke
Of bridges I have burned
So don't apologize
I'm losing what I don't deserve
What I don't deserve

We held our breath when the clouds began to form
But you were lost in the beating of the storm
But in the end we were meant to be apart
In separate chambers of the human heart

I'm swimming in the smoke of bridges I have burned
So don't apologize
I'm losing what I don't deserve
It's in the blackened bones of bridges I have burned
So don't apologize
I'm losing what I don't deserve
What I don't deserve

Modifié par Inzhuna, 27 avril 2011 - 08:12 .

[MG800]

Threeparts wrote...

Rule Number One of Kirkwall: Everyone is mad.

It's Alice in Wonderland, really. The opening scene in Kirkwall really should have been...

'That depends a good deal on where you want to get to,' said Varric.
'I don't much care where--' said Hawke.
'Then it doesn't matter which way you go,' said the Dwarf.
'--so long as I get somewhere,' Hawke added as an explanation.
'Oh, you're sure to do that,' said Varric, 'if you only walk long enough.'
Hawke felt that this could not be denied, so he tried another question. 'What sort of people live about here?'
'In that direction,' Varric said, waving his right hand round, 'lives a pirate: and in that direction,' waving the other hand, 'lives a Fereldan apostate. Visit either you like: they're both mad.'
'But I don't want to go among mad people,' Hawke remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that,' said Varric: 'we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
'How do you know I'm mad?' said Hawke.
'You must be,' said the Dwarf, 'or you wouldn't have come here.'

*in awe, speechless*
Just a wait a bit and you'll get your own fangirls
Damm, best short summarization of DA2, also spoiler free

Modifié par MG800, 27 avril 2011 - 08:25 .

[Amondra]

Is this person for real?!

http://www.dragonage...ile.php?id=2722