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#34401
Herr Uhl

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yukidama wrote...

She already tweeted him a picture of her tatas :unsure:


*pats internets*

I should never have doubted you.

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

yukidama wrote...

She already tweeted him a picture of her tatas :unsure:


:mellow:

What have I missed here?


Some chick "accidentally" tweeting a picture of her ****** at Adam Howden.

#34403
YamiSnuffles

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You know, I used to think Adam Howden would be afraid if he ever found this thread. Now I think perhaps he'd be safer here than on Twitter.

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yukidama wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

yukidama wrote...

She already tweeted him a picture of her tatas :unsure:


:mellow:

What have I missed here?


Some chick "accidentally" tweeting a picture of her ****** at Adam Howden.


*facepalms* 

And this is why people set their pages to private. (Never used twitter so I'm not sure if you can do that there). 

Were they nice tatas at least? 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 avril 2011 - 05:58 .


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YamiSnuffles wrote...

You know, I used to think Adam Howden would be afraid if he ever found this thread. Now I think perhaps he'd be safer here than on Twitter.


Get out of my miiiiiiiind. <3

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ashyraine wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...

You know, I used to think Adam Howden would be afraid if he ever found this thread. Now I think perhaps he'd be safer here than on Twitter.


Get out of my miiiiiiiind. <3


I agree with both these statements.

#34407
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YamiSnuffles wrote...

You know, I used to think Adam Howden would be afraid if he ever found this thread. Now I think perhaps he'd be safer here than on Twitter.


There's a slight difference between
A) plotting to rape Anders and force him to marry every person on the Thread, while dressing him up as various alter egos, and throwing him into crack pairings with Fenris and Seb, amongst various other things, while in the mean time we dissect his character and personality.

and B) Sending his RL VA pictures of certain NSFW areas of our naked bodies. That's Izzy's job.

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YamiSnuffles

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Dear Mr. Howden,

Please seek refuge in the glorious temple of the Anderstian faith. We shall only molest the pixel character with your voice and not you personally.

Best Regards,
The Loveable Crazies of the Anders Thread

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Dreaming-in-Shadow

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Oh, and this might have been mentioned, but Tempering Justice has been updated:
http://dragonage-kin...?thread=7778992

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Dreaming-in-Shadow

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YamiSnuffles wrote...

Dear Mr. Howden,

Please seek refuge in the glorious temple of the Anderstian faith. We shall only molest the pixel character with your voice and not you personally.

Best Regards,
The Loveable Crazies of the Anders Thread


Precisely. :P

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Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...

Dear Mr. Howden,

Please seek refuge in the glorious temple of the Anderstian faith. We shall only molest the pixel character with your voice and not you personally.

Best Regards,
The Loveable Crazies of the Anders Thread


Precisely. :P


I'll sign that petition.

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Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

and B) Sending his RL VA pictures of certain NSFW areas of our naked bodies. That's Izzy's job.


Somehow, I'm not suprised this happens. It's actually quite saddening to be this jaded in the face of insanity.

But boy did I pick the wrong vocation to pursuit.

Modifié par bleetman, 28 avril 2011 - 06:17 .


#34413
Dreaming-in-Shadow

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...do you think he's already found this thread?

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Sialater

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Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Oh, and this might have been mentioned, but Tempering Justice has been updated:
http://dragonage-kin...?thread=7778992


I miss Justice.

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Dreaming-in-Shadow

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Sialater wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Oh, and this might have been mentioned, but Tempering Justice has been updated:
http://dragonage-kin...?thread=7778992


I miss Justice.


I want the opportunity to kiss Justice, just to see what happens! :devil:

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Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Oh, and this might have been mentioned, but Tempering Justice has been updated:
http://dragonage-kin...?thread=7778992


I love this story.  It's so hard for me to read though since the kinkmeme is so hard to navigate. 

#34417
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Ryzaki wrote...

yukidama wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

yukidama wrote...

She already tweeted him a picture of her tatas :unsure:


:mellow:

What have I missed here?


Some chick "accidentally" tweeting a picture of her ****** at Adam Howden.


*facepalms* 

And this is why people set their pages to private. (Never used twitter so I'm not sure if you can do that there). 

Were they nice tatas at least? 


 You can't make your existance private, people can still @you but you can make your profile private and have to approve each and every follow request. Which I do, and it sucks. Alot.

#34418
YamiSnuffles

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thebrute7 wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Oh, and this might have been mentioned, but Tempering Justice has been updated:
http://dragonage-kin...?thread=7778992


I love this story.  It's so hard for me to read though since the kinkmeme is so hard to navigate. 


It's also on ff.net. It just updates a little slower there.

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Poor Adam Howden. He has absolutely *no idea.*

But he's so gosh dern cute.

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Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

...OK. I just looked up the Stanford Prison experiment and I am deeply disturbed.

Admittedly, I don't think the Ferelden circle was quite that extreme for some.
(Aside from similarities like the robes being pretty much the same for everybody and no windows, and the templars with their helmets and... God, I keep seeing Anders in solitary confinement...)

Kirkwall is probably the Thedas equivalent.

The Stanford Prison experiment wasn't done with prison guards and criminals, it was done with young, college-aged men who'd never served time and had no guard training and experience, and college professors.

It's a group of men who've never experienced the reality of prison acting out a power fantasy. It has no more baring on actual prison life than a group of 12-year-olds play paintball is an accurate reflection of warfare.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 28 avril 2011 - 06:33 .


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Sialater

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I actually have a friend that was a prison guard after college (only job hiring at that moment). He hated being one considering how much power the guards have.

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Dreaming-in-Shadow

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

...OK. I just looked up the Stanford Prison experiment and I am deeply disturbed.

Admittedly, I don't think the Ferelden circle was quite that extreme for some.
(Aside from similarities like the robes being pretty much the same for everybody and no windows, and the templars with their helmets and... God, I keep seeing Anders in solitary confinement...)

Kirkwall is probably the Thedas equivalent.

The Stanford Prison experiment wasn't done with prison guards and criminals, it was done with young, college-aged men who'd never served time and had no guard training and experience, and college professors.

It's a group of men who've never experienced the reality of prison acting out a power fantasy. It has no more baring on actual prison life than a group of 12-year-olds play paintball is an accurate reflection of warfare.


I didn't say it did.
I was merely wondering how akin to the Circles it might be. (It's still disturbing)

The mages in the circles aren't criminals either, they're mostly people who were taken away from their family and locked up because they were born slightly different to the rest of their race.

Modifié par Dreaming-in-Shadow, 28 avril 2011 - 06:53 .


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Lady Jess wrote...
 You can't make your existance private, people can still @you but you can make your profile private and have to approve each and every follow request. Which I do, and it sucks. Alot. 


Ugh. That really sucks. 

#34424
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Taking a break from my paper (again; I have a problem) and I see we're talking about the Stanford Prison Experiment. Anders Thread, you are like crack to me.

As Maria said, the SPE was not conducted with prisoners and guards. And the researcher in charge, Zimbardo, called it short when he realized he was compromised (he'd cast himself in the role of a warden and was thinking as one, rather than a teacher in charge of students). It's implications for the CJ system are negligible, though it's a fascinating if somewhat controversial look at how rapidly we adapt to new roles in a total institution.

On the subject of actual prisons (which I still say the templars resemble), I know BioWare is a Canadian company and most of my information comes from the American correctional system. This being said, our justice system is somewhat well known. 25% of the world's prison population is in the United States. Places like Alcatraz are infamous the world over. And even if the parallels are unintentional, it doesn't matter. When analyzing fiction, author intent does not always matter. Symbolism can be in place regardless of whether the author consciously meant to put it there.

So how are the Circles similar to prisons? They're both ineffectual, for one. We've seen blood magic in both the Ferelden and Kirkwall Circles. In fact, one could probably argue the circles give mages a place to congregate and share their knowledge. Because they have to keep their research secret from the templars, it also encourages them to be more manipulative and secretive. So in fact, the Circles are making them more effective and dangerous blood mages. In the same vein, maximum and super-max prisons arose out of a need to control the most dangerous offenders by putting them in one place. People are usually sent here because of crimes committed inside another prison.

There's a famous prison called Pelican Bay in CA which houses many such convicts. The criminals inside often consider it a right of passage to be sent there because they know it will make them a better criminal. They can learn from each other, hone their skills, and when they're released on the outside, they're more effective at their craft. How's that for disturbing. Granted, mages aren't customarily "released" from the Circle, though they do seem able to leave in certain circumstances (such as to join the army at Ostagar or when Wynne was sent to join the Warden and then to Cumberland to speak there).

Anyway, before I go on for pages and pages, I just thought it was worth considering. It's not a perfect metaphor, but I think understanding the psychology inside an actual prison is worth knowing when talking about the Circle and templars. I think it also helps explain some of Anders' actions and mentality. Many times prisons actually increase an inmate's violent and criminal urges. Anders is as much a product of his experiences in the Circle as he is of the merger with Justice. We tend to focus on that aspect of his personality as being behind his "spot of iconoclasm," but I'd argue his history played a role, as well.

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highcastle wrote...

Taking a break from my paper (again; I have a problem) and I see we're talking about the Stanford Prison Experiment. Anders Thread, you are like crack to me.

As Maria said, the SPE was not conducted with prisoners and guards. And the researcher in charge, Zimbardo, called it short when he realized he was compromised (he'd cast himself in the role of a warden and was thinking as one, rather than a teacher in charge of students). It's implications for the CJ system are negligible, though it's a fascinating if somewhat controversial look at how rapidly we adapt to new roles in a total institution.

On the subject of actual prisons (which I still say the templars resemble), I know BioWare is a Canadian company and most of my information comes from the American correctional system. This being said, our justice system is somewhat well known. 25% of the world's prison population is in the United States. Places like Alcatraz are infamous the world over. And even if the parallels are unintentional, it doesn't matter. When analyzing fiction, author intent does not always matter. Symbolism can be in place regardless of whether the author consciously meant to put it there.

So how are the Circles similar to prisons? They're both ineffectual, for one. We've seen blood magic in both the Ferelden and Kirkwall Circles. In fact, one could probably argue the circles give mages a place to congregate and share their knowledge. Because they have to keep their research secret from the templars, it also encourages them to be more manipulative and secretive. So in fact, the Circles are making them more effective and dangerous blood mages. In the same vein, maximum and super-max prisons arose out of a need to control the most dangerous offenders by putting them in one place. People are usually sent here because of crimes committed inside another prison.

There's a famous prison called Pelican Bay in CA which houses many such convicts. The criminals inside often consider it a right of passage to be sent there because they know it will make them a better criminal. They can learn from each other, hone their skills, and when they're released on the outside, they're more effective at their craft. How's that for disturbing. Granted, mages aren't customarily "released" from the Circle, though they do seem able to leave in certain circumstances (such as to join the army at Ostagar or when Wynne was sent to join the Warden and then to Cumberland to speak there).

Anyway, before I go on for pages and pages, I just thought it was worth considering. It's not a perfect metaphor, but I think understanding the psychology inside an actual prison is worth knowing when talking about the Circle and templars. I think it also helps explain some of Anders' actions and mentality. Many times prisons actually increase an inmate's violent and criminal urges. Anders is as much a product of his experiences in the Circle as he is of the merger with Justice. We tend to focus on that aspect of his personality as being behind his "spot of iconoclasm," but I'd argue his history played a role, as well.


Certainly being in solitary for a year didn't help.