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[Tasmen]

Pseudocognition wrote...

Why the Fendersssss

It breaks my brain and not in the good way.

There is never a reason to go on a Fenders-bender.

*is punny...hurhur*



Btw, Anders agrees and needs to hug his pillow due to the crazy.

Modifié par Tasmen, 28 avril 2011 - 08:29 .

[Ninche]

The game gives us such serious issues to debate but doesn't really provide us with enough information to be able to draw informed and intelligent conclusions. For example the circle mages vs. free mages: We have no idea what life in the tevinter was like BEFORE the chantry won and took over, they seemed to be brutal slavers and all that but what was the abomination situation like? and the elves of Arthalan: aapprently pretty much everyone had magic or benefitted from it in same way, what about abominations? It's really annoying because from the facts the game presents us with the free mages are definitely not a majority. I'm not sure we should be counting flemeth who is a dragon or maker knows what - and therefore her daughter Morrigan. Hawke is like a massive loop hole in the whole mages thing - he/she seems absolutely immune to demons and there's no way around it tbh because Hawke is the protagonist.

I'm not even sure where I was going with that - I guess I know that about 2% of all written lore material gets into the game and its really frustrating right now, because we need more information.

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Templars can stop blood magic too. It is just more potent. And how are they supposed to study Flemeth? Other than inducing abominations I don't see how they could research it, and that would be a horribly cruel practice.

And I think fear is known to be a reason. The desire to live, protect others etc.

Ask her nicely? XD
I kind of pity abominations, and demons too.

I think we should listen to the Aquetarians and try to get along as much as possible, but noooo...

[YamiSnuffles]

Lady Vengeance wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...
Is it wrong that I see this picture and all I can think is that they must have flipped it because the windows are on the other side of the bedroom? The light on the ground is correct, but the rays of light would be coming through solid wall.

*Compulsive screenshot taker looks at screenshots*
-snip screenshot-

Maybe not flipped, but took the lighting from the fire and made it a window or something.

No, I loaded up the game to check that too before I said anything. The lighting on the ground is distinctly from the window on the other wall. But in the picture, light is coming from just above where the fireplace and solid wall would be. So the room would have to be flipped as far as the walls go, in order for there to be a window there.

So, I guess I should have worded it as, not that the whole picture is flipped, but the window placement is flipped.

Modifié par YamiSnuffles, 28 avril 2011 - 08:37 .

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Ninche wrote...

The game gives us such serious issues to debate but doesn't really provide us with enough information to be able to draw informed and intelligent conclusions. For example the circle mages vs. free mages: We have no idea what life in the tevinter was like BEFORE the chantry won and took over, they seemed to be brutal slavers and all that but what was the abomination situation like? and the elves of Arthalan: aapprently pretty much everyone had magic or benefitted from it in same way, what about abominations? It's really annoying because from the facts the game presents us with the free mages are definitely not a majority. I'm not sure we should be counting flemeth who is a dragon or maker knows what - and therefore her daughter Morrigan. Hawke is like a massive loop hole in the whole mages thing - he/she seems absolutely immune to demons and there's no way around it tbh because Hawke is the protagonist.

I'm not even sure where I was going with that - I guess I know that about 2% of all written lore material gets into the game and its really frustrating right now, because we need more information.

My point exactly. Irritating.

It's like the whole FR Crown Wars/drow/Seldarine mess. Nobody really knows what the hell happened!

[Dunizel]

Lady Vengeance wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...
Is it wrong that I see this picture and all I can think is that they must have flipped it because the windows are on the other side of the bedroom? The light on the ground is correct, but the rays of light would be coming through solid wall.

*Compulsive screenshot taker looks at screenshots*


Maybe not flipped, but took the lighting from the fire and made it a window or something.

Yup, I checked the image and I'm pretty sure the background is a screenshot manipulated. 

SurelyForth wrote...


Also, I like to think the sleeves are part of the quilty vest and not the pauldrons.

Yeah, that was my impression too.
Damn, we needed some better scenes...like Hawke undressing a bit Anders...at least to understand how his clothes are layered...

[Sable Rhapsody]

Ninche wrote...

I guess I know that about 2% of all written lore material gets into the game and its really frustrating right now, because we need more information.

100% agreed.  That's probably deliberate on the part of the devs, though.  For both practical reasons, and for making us think and living off of our tears 

The way DA2 is structured, the whole mage/templar thing provokes a more emotional reaction than a reasoned one.  I know that for me personally, just the thought of siding with the templars makes me feel slightly ill.  If all the information came out and the templar path was the more reasonable, beneficial one, I'd still feel ill.

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Ninche wrote...

I guess I know that about 2% of all written lore material gets into the game and its really frustrating right now, because we need more information.

100% agreed.  That's probably deliberate on the part of the devs, though.  For both practical reasons, and for making us think and living off of our tears 

The way DA2 is structured, the whole mage/templar thing provokes a more emotional reaction than a reasoned one.  I know that for me personally, just the thought of siding with the templars makes me feel slightly ill.  If all the information came out and the templar path was the more reasonable, beneficial one, I'd still feel ill.

Twice agreed.

I don't condone any infringement of freedom without a very good cause. Personally, if I were a mage in Thedas and had the choice between Tranquility, death or the Circle, I'd take death.

I'll never side with Templars.
Nor blood mages.

[thebrute7]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Ninche wrote...

I guess I know that about 2% of all written lore material gets into the game and its really frustrating right now, because we need more information.

100% agreed.  That's probably deliberate on the part of the devs, though.  For both practical reasons, and for making us think and living off of our tears 

The way DA2 is structured, the whole mage/templar thing provokes a more emotional reaction than a reasoned one.  I know that for me personally, just the thought of siding with the templars makes me feel slightly ill.  If all the information came out and the templar path was the more reasonable, beneficial one, I'd still feel ill.

We want more information!!  We wants it now!  It's true though.  DA II provokes an emotional rather than rational reaction.  I am like you Sable, just thinking of siding with the templars hurts.

[kromify]

YamiSnuffles wrote...
*Compulsive screenshot taker looks at screenshots*

this is so sweet that my resolve to rivalmance fenris is being sorely tested

[YamiSnuffles]

It's not lighting from the fire though. That's the window light on the ground. It's how the ground window light looks in the rest of the house. >_>

I know it's a manipulated shot or something, I was just saying, they added rays of light from a wall where there is no window. I just don't understand why the picture does it that way when there is a window on the other wall. Why have light coming from the side with no window!

*flails pointlessly*

[Sable Rhapsody]

thebrute7 wrote...

We want more information!!  We wants it now!  It's true though.  DA II provokes an emotional rather than rational reaction.  I am like you Sable, just thinking of siding with the templars hurts.

I think for me, it started with DA:O.  My canon!Warden was an Amell mage.  I hadn't read any of the books or much of the lore prior to the game's release.  My first glimpse of Thedas was through the eyes of a spirited, fiercely independent Liberatarian mage who resented the templars and pushed for the rights of mages.  Of course that colored how I viewed the issue.

Come DA2, and I play her cousin, an apostate who has feared and hated the templars for as long as she can remember.  My sympathies for the mages were pretty much inevitable at that point.

[SmilingDeceit]

kromify wrote...

this is so sweet that my resolve to rivalmance fenris is being sorely tested

Clearly you should just ragesex him and then move on to Anders.

And yay for sexy m/m Anders love. Never can have enough of that! <3

[Ninche]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Ninche wrote...

I guess I know that about 2% of all written lore material gets into the game and its really frustrating right now, because we need more information.

100% agreed.  That's probably deliberate on the part of the devs, though.  For both practical reasons, and for making us think and living off of our tears 

The way DA2 is structured, the whole mage/templar thing provokes a more emotional reaction than a reasoned one.  I know that for me personally, just the thought of siding with the templars makes me feel slightly ill.  If all the information came out and the templar path was the more reasonable, beneficial one, I'd still feel ill.

Well if we do accept that mages ARE dangerous and not even consciously so, then the circles as a concept are pretty reasonable and probably the only way to do things to be honest. 

The problem is when the circles don't work in reality and allow for abuse and oppression to happen. And the whole stigma the chantry imposes out of fear for another tevinter rise. 

My problem is I can never think about this as a non mage. But if I try really hard I can definitely see how keeping mages locked up and watched would save lots of lives - you could argue it's unfair for a person to hold so much supernatural power compared to most simple folk. AND mages don't consciously decide they want to harm others and do evil half the time when abominations happen. 

I just like to think there is an alternative to the chantry and tevinter but so far we haven't been presented with it. 

And as far as emotional responses are concerned I always respond emotionally before info travels to my brain, fights through the irrational myst and reaches some sort of logical thought process. It helps me sypathise with Anders more and feel equally helpless when trying to argue a point. 

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

So, while we're on the topic of circles, and seeing as this is a thread dedicated to the man who kind of sparked the biggest Mage-event since the fall of the Imperium:

Which mage faction do you think you'd fall into?
I'd go Aequitarian, personally.

Modifié par Dreaming-in-Shadow, 28 avril 2011 - 08:48 .

[eleridragon]

SurelyForth wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

All I can think is that Anders really needs to take his jacket off

The thing is, he either was wearing only that when the fun started, or he stripped down and threw that back on.

I honestly don't know if my Hawkes would be patient enough to get through his thousands of layers only to have him be like "Wait! Too exposed!" *jacket* And I love the furry/feathery pauldrons.

Also, I like to think the sleeves are part of the quilty vest and not the pauldrons. Otherwise, the snugness of them and the thought of that on top of a thick vest makes me feel awkward when I look at him.

On the feathered pauldrons, my son said earlier when we were compiling a playlist (hence why the subject came up)

'You know how much you kept going on and on about Brandon Flowers feathered shoulders in the Human vid when it came out...I think I know why you like Anders so much.'

I told him it was nothing to do with feathered pauldrons, they just add to the love.

[Sialater]

kromify wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...
*Compulsive screenshot taker looks at screenshots*

this is so sweet that my resolve to rivalmance fenris is being sorely tested

Ditto.  But I'm Friendmancing him.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

So, while we're on the topic of circles, and seeing as this is a thread dedicated to the man who kind of sparked the biggest Mage-event since the fall of the Imperium:

Which mage faction do you think you'd fall into?
I'd go Aquitarian, personally.

Liberatarian.  Though not Resolutionist.  I'd probably have the same opinion my Amell mage eventually developed; the mages need to be free and have rights, but it should happen as a slow, careful process of evolution and reform rather than a violent revolution.

[Sialater]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

So, while we're on the topic of circles, and seeing as this is a thread dedicated to the man who kind of sparked the biggest Mage-event since the fall of the Imperium:

Which mage faction do you think you'd fall into?
I'd go Aquitarian, personally.

I'm not sure.  I kept Moira out of politics.

[Ryzaki]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

So, while we're on the topic of circles, and seeing as this is a thread dedicated to the man who kind of sparked the biggest Mage-event since the fall of the Imperium:

Which mage faction do you think you'd fall into?
I'd go Aquitarian, personally.

I'm an Isolationist. 

[Sialater]

What are all the factions again?

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Ryzaki wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

So, while we're on the topic of circles, and seeing as this is a thread dedicated to the man who kind of sparked the biggest Mage-event since the fall of the Imperium:

Which mage faction do you think you'd fall into?
I'd go Aquitarian, personally.

I'm an Isolationist. 

If it were possible, it'd be nice to have a sort of mage-community, made up of all mages.
Unfortunately, that'd just result in one big mess.

[thebrute7]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

So, while we're on the topic of circles, and seeing as this is a thread dedicated to the man who kind of sparked the biggest Mage-event since the fall of the Imperium:

Which mage faction do you think you'd fall into?
I'd go Aequitarian, personally.

Libertarian, almost to the point of being Resolutionist.

I just don't feel that change was going to come to the sytem peacefully.

[kromify]

No one seen amazing grace? "gradually"
how many more injustices occur whilst you change things slowly...

[YamiSnuffles]

The different factions.