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[nekhbet]

So what inspired the beautiful thread name change?

And damn, that's a looot of pages to read up later... saw some interesting discussions about 10 pages back.

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Modifié par nekhbet, 28 avril 2011 - 09:48 .

[SmilingDeceit]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...


Like my Hawke. *sigh*
and Warden-Commander Surana will have a field day (he won't be able to stay neutral...)

Yeah... No way my Commander Surana will stay netural once he gets word of what happened in Kirkwall. Probably even will go over searching for Anders (With his Zev by his side of course.) 

He's tried to be idle with the Chantry, because he *is* still a Warden and shouldn't get involved.. But, just letting whatever might happen without lending a hand, not as a Warden, but as a fellow mage? Nah...That's not how my Surana rolls now.

I'm sure the Chantry will be happy to brand Surana offically a malificar as well. How dare the Wardens let a mage be "unleashed" and allowed to do whatever they may like as long as it's "in the name of the Wardens"! He's been flaunting his freedom for far too long now! <_<

[thebrute7]

My WC Surana will probably try and stay out of it. She's too dedicated to the Wardens. Of course, if the templars are getting in the way of her recruiting mages for the Wardens she may have to do something. Of course in my world she supports Anders and Justice behind the scenes. She just makes sure it can't be traced back to the Wardens.

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

SmilingDeceit wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...


Like my Hawke. *sigh*
and Warden-Commander Surana will have a field day (he won't be able to stay neutral...)

Yeah... No way my Commander Surana will stay netural once he gets word of what happened in Kirkwall. Probably even will go over searching for Anders (With his Zev by his side of course.) 

He's tried to be idle with the Chantry, because he *is* still a Warden and shouldn't get involved.. But, just letting whatever might happen without lending a hand, not as a Warden, but as a fellow mage? Nah...That's not how my Surana rolls now.

I'm sure the Chantry will be happy to brand Surana offically a malificar as well. How dare the Wardens let a mage be "unleashed" and allowed to do whatever they may like as long as it's "in the name of the Wardens"! He's been flaunting his freedom for far too long now! <_<

To be honest, after the whole Kirkwall mess, tensions will be so high the Chantry will probably start intefering with the Wardens - especially a mage WC.

If Hawke sided with the mages, then it's proved that a mage cannot be trusted with a position of power outside of the Chantry's control.

Arion is definately going down branded "maleficar". His "Power of Blood" abilities are too close to blood magic, and he employs two forms of ancient elven magic that the Chantry would probably count as forbidden:
-Arcane Warrior (a mage with a sword, the Templars are probably going to freak)
-Keeper.

and then there's the trick he picked up from Morrigan:
-Shapeshifting.

Yep. The Chantry will have a field day.
And Zev is hardly going to complain.

Modifié par Dreaming-in-Shadow, 28 avril 2011 - 10:15 .

[SmilingDeceit]

Yeah, my Surana supports Anders' cause, but can't openly support him in fear that it might cause war against Ferelden because he is a major advisor to King Alistair and is known as such (you can bet Ferelden's Grand Cleric had a field day when that happened!) It's to a point that he had to lecture Anders about it in my story; as much as he would love to act against this injustice, he bet's his warden ass the Divine will launch a March against Ferelden if that happens. Also might be the back that he just might dabble in blood magic and he's sure they'll find that out if they investigate his past. For fighting to Blight, I swear!

But he has to think of others before himself in this case, and as much as he hates the Circle and the Chantry (only life he's known before the Wardens and he's bitter about that.) he still wishes to protect Ferelden.

[SurelyForth]

nekhbet wrote...

So what inspired the beautiful thread name change?

Just me waking up in a cheeky mood and finding some serious discussion going on in the thread when I first logged on. Nothing fun, really.

[Falstad007]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

The Loyalists may have revolted too.

Think about it logically.  The Loyalists were probably the largest faction in the Circle due to self-preservation.  Being a Liberatarian is a dangerous opinion to have.  I'll bet a lot of mages were Loyalist "by default," because it was the easiest and safest opinion to have.

But after what happened in Kirkwall demonstrated the lengths to which the templars were willing to go, it's likely the Loyalists turned too.  It's hard to be loyal or obedient to the order that's just proved they'll kill Circle mages even when the fault doesn't lie with them.  Sure there are crazies like Keili out there, but your average mage is still a person.  And when a person is cornered with the choice of certain death vs. fighting back, they'll fight back.

Sorry if this is late but I thought I'd share this tid-bit.


In the mage origin Niall and a Senior Enchanter (whose name I don't remember) will tell you that the Aequitarians are the largest group by far and so hold the majority vote, so to speak. Niall is complaining to the Enchanter guy that the Aequitarians, who it's implied normally side with the Loyalist in the name of peace, are starting to show sympathies for the Libertarians. Then you have Wynne in Ameranthine (Sorry it's probably spelled wrong) telling you that the Circle's are holding a meeting to discuss more Libertarian views.

I think it's safe to say that most Circles are not nearly as oppressed as Kirkwall is, and that most mages weren't afraid to speak their minds (even if they don't back it with action like Anders did, in the very least they voiced their oppinons)

And I completely agree with you about the Loyalist turning after Anders' little episode. I just want to point out that the mages were more or less of the same mind as Elthina was, in thinking that the Circle was overly oppressive but not wanting to take action in the name of peace. 

[tmp7704]

I only saw "always up for a sp" on the main forums page, and clicked with expectations it's "always up for a spicy shimmy".

Disappoint ;.;

[SmilingDeceit]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

To be honest, after the whole Kirkwall mess, tensions will be so high the Chantry will probably start intefering with the Wardens - especially a mage WC.

Arion is definately going down branded "maleficar". His "Power of Blood" abilities are too close to blood magic, and he employs two forms of ancient elven magic that the Chantry would probably count as forbidden:
-Arcane Warrior (a mage with a sword, the Templars are probably going to freak)
-Keeper.

and then there's the trick he picked up from Morrigan:
-Shapeshifting.

Yep. The Chantry will have a field day.
And Zev is hardly going to complain.

Oh I know, and my writing muse is having a field day because of it.

Aramil went blood magic at first because of the situation he was thrown into with the Blight, and being one of two suriving Ferelden Wardens there was a bit of preesure on his shoulders. It's how I see him responding to it, and in my playthrough with him, he only activiated those abilities against darkspawn, never against anything else. Oh yeah, totally drank the potion in Soldier's Peak. Anything to be used against the Blight at this point.
Then he stumbled upon the vial in the ruins when going after Winterfang, no way was he passing on forgotten elven magic. So now he's an Arcane Warrior as well.

Finally in Awakenings, he just went Battle Mage because anything else would be silly. 

He has all rights to be named malificar at this point, I just don't suggest telling that to his face, or Zev's 

Modifié par SmilingDeceit, 28 avril 2011 - 10:22 .

[SurelyForth]

tmp7704 wrote...

I only saw "always up for a sp" on the main forums page, and clicked with expectations it's "always up for a spicy shimmy".

Disappoint ;.;

Now I'm sad that it's not "always up for a spicy shimmy." We really don't have near enough spicy shimmying going on around here. 

[MG800]

SmilingDeceit wrote...

Yeah, my Surana supports Anders' cause, but can't openly support him in fear that it might cause war against Ferelden because he is a major advisor to King Alistair and is known as such (you can bet Ferelden's Grand Cleric had a field day when that happened!) It's to a point that he had to lecture Anders about it in my story; as much as he would love to act against this injustice, he bet's his warden ass the Divine will launch a March against Ferelden if that happens. Also might be the back that he just might dabble in blood magic and he's sure they'll find that out if they investigate his past. For fighting to Blight, I swear!

But he has to think of others before himself in this case, and as much as he hates the Circle and the Chantry (only life he's known before the Wardens and he's bitter about that.) he still wishes to protect Ferelden.

Well, my Amell was always on an active side. Probably won't think twice before sticking her nose into this whole mess. I must make her grow up someday. She was "best-buddies evah" with Anders, which pretty much can summarize her personality. Except that Anders was pretty mild in case of mages rights in DAA - she was not. 
Good she's at least better tactician (months on court, Irving pupil etc.)
And Arcane Warriors... Yep, Chantry is screwed - if there's one, there can be more.

Modifié par MG800, 28 avril 2011 - 10:29 .

[YamiSnuffles]

SurelyForth wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

I only saw "always up for a sp" on the main forums page, and clicked with expectations it's "always up for a spicy shimmy".

Disappoint ;.;

Now I'm sad that it's not "always up for a spicy shimmy." We really don't have near enough spicy shimmying going on around here. 

I agree to this assessment. Next up on the animation block for me is Anders dancing. Til then:



With, of course, this playing.

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

SmilingDeceit wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

To be honest, after the whole Kirkwall mess, tensions will be so high the Chantry will probably start intefering with the Wardens - especially a mage WC.

Arion is definately going down branded "maleficar". His "Power of Blood" abilities are too close to blood magic, and he employs two forms of ancient elven magic that the Chantry would probably count as forbidden:
-Arcane Warrior (a mage with a sword, the Templars are probably going to freak)
-Keeper.

and then there's the trick he picked up from Morrigan:
-Shapeshifting.

Yep. The Chantry will have a field day.
And Zev is hardly going to complain.

Oh I know, and my writing muse is having a field day because of it.

Aramil went blood magic at first because of the situation he was thrown into with the Blight, and being one of two suriving Ferelden Wardens there was a bit of preesure on his shoulders. It's how I see him responding to it, and in my playthrough with him, he only activiated those abilities against darkspawn, never against anything else. Oh yeah, totally drank the potion in Soldier's Peak. Anything to be used against the Blight at this point.
Then he stumbled upon the vial in the ruins when going after Winterfang, no way was he passing on forgotten elven magic. So now he's an Arcane Warrior as well.

Finally in Awakenings, he just went Battle Mage because anything else would be silly. 

He has all rights to be named malificar at this point, I just don't suggest telling that to his face, or Zev's 

Between the Surana and Zev, certain high ups in Orlais and Antiva must be screaming in sheer rage. XD

I never chose Blood Magic for him, it just seemed... out of character.
Though I'd bet he can't approach a Dalish camp without getting mobbed. (Two elven magics, Elven armour, Elven sword (Spellweaver)...) 

Arcane Warrior was chosen because for starters it's useful, and secondly, you wouldn't guess that he's a mage by looking at him.
Shapeshifting makes a good disguise.

Keeper was because it's interesting (And also: Hey, he's already a walking monument of elven lore, why not!? i should totally teach him elvish and give him vallaslin now! XD)
I'm thinking of turning him into a pride abomination next...

When he gets around to sheltering runaway mages (because he's going to do that, regardless of DA3) he'll probably start teaching all this forbidden lore to them. The Chantry will love that... 

Templar: "Die malefica-" *mardar knifed*
Arion: Thanks Zev!
Zev: No problem, you can make it up to me later~<3
Arion: ...You and your one-track mind. <_<

[Herr Uhl]

MG800 wrote...

And Arcane Warriors... Yep, Chantry is screwed - if there's one, there can be more.

Wouldn't a smite do as much damage to an arcane warrior as a regular mage and render them as hopeless. They need magic to wield them weapons.

[TripLight]

ROFL..one of the best DA2 Meme's I have seen so far by Ex~chao

(Right click and view image lovelies!)

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

YamiSnuffles wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

I only saw "always up for a sp" on the main forums page, and clicked with expectations it's "always up for a spicy shimmy".

Disappoint ;.;

Now I'm sad that it's not "always up for a spicy shimmy." We really don't have near enough spicy shimmying going on around here. 

I agree to this assessment. Next up on the animation block for me is Anders dancing. Til then:



With, of course, this playing.

Can't. Look. Away. 

[MG800]

Herr Uhl wrote...

MG800 wrote...

And Arcane Warriors... Yep, Chantry is screwed - if there's one, there can be more.

Wouldn't a smite do as much damage to an arcane warrior as a regular mage and render them as hopeless. They need magic to wield them weapons.

Sure, but before they will cast a smite they could be parylazed, and then put down by sword - and mages still would have enough mana to blow up the whole batalion. 
*sigh* Hello, pure theory

Modifié par MG800, 28 avril 2011 - 10:42 .

[nekhbet]

TripLight wrote...

ROFL..one of the best DA2 Meme's I have seen so far by Ex~chao

(Right click and view image lovelies!)
*snip*

Oh gosh I love that picture of Anders as the classic image of Justice with blindfold, scales and sword. It's... not a picture I ever had in mind before, but now it's stuck.

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Herr Uhl wrote...

MG800 wrote...

And Arcane Warriors... Yep, Chantry is screwed - if there's one, there can be more.

Wouldn't a smite do as much damage to an arcane warrior as a regular mage and render them as hopeless. They need magic to wield them weapons.

For a while perhaps. Maybe they'll pick up some real skill and muscle along the way.
Also there's the "kill it fast from a distance" option.

[thebrute7]

MG800 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

MG800 wrote...

And Arcane Warriors... Yep, Chantry is screwed - if there's one, there can be more.

Wouldn't a smite do as much damage to an arcane warrior as a regular mage and render them as hopeless. They need magic to wield them weapons.

Sure, but before they could cast a smite they would be parylazed, and then put down by sword - and mages still would have enough mana to blow up the whole batalion. 

Templars can dispel magic you know.  Smiting isn't their only ability.  Not only that but they are more resistant to harmful magic.

[xi ShadowWolf x]

[quote]Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

[quote]YamiSnuffles wrote...

[quote]SurelyForth wrote...

[quote]tmp7704 wrote...

I only saw "always up for a sp" on the main forums page, and clicked with expectations it's "always up for a spicy shimmy".

Disappoint ;.;[/quote]

Now I'm sad that it's not "always up for a spicy shimmy." We really don't have near enough spicy shimmying going on around here. 

[/quote]

I agree to this assessment. Next up on the animation block for me is Anders dancing. Til then:



With, of course, this playing.

[/quote]

Maker! Cant stop laughing lmfao XD

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

thebrute7 wrote...

MG800 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

MG800 wrote...

And Arcane Warriors... Yep, Chantry is screwed - if there's one, there can be more.

Wouldn't a smite do as much damage to an arcane warrior as a regular mage and render them as hopeless. They need magic to wield them weapons.

Sure, but before they could cast a smite they would be parylazed, and then put down by sword - and mages still would have enough mana to blow up the whole batalion. 

Templars can dispel magic you know.  Smiting isn't their only ability.  Not only that but they are more resistant to harmful magic.

What powers a Templars abilities, anyway?
Sure sounds like magic or a fade based power to me... <_<

Wrap em up in vines and roots? Fly away?

Use blood magic instead?

Drain their life force and leave them too tired?

Glyph of Paralysis + Glyph of repulsion?

Modifié par Dreaming-in-Shadow, 28 avril 2011 - 10:44 .

[MG800]

thebrute7 wrote...

MG800 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

MG800 wrote...

And Arcane Warriors... Yep, Chantry is screwed - if there's one, there can be more.

Wouldn't a smite do as much damage to an arcane warrior as a regular mage and render them as hopeless. They need magic to wield them weapons.

Sure, but before they could cast a smite they would be parylazed, and then put down by sword - and mages still would have enough mana to blow up the whole batalion. 

Templars can dispel magic you know.  Smiting isn't their only ability.  Not only that but they are more resistant to harmful magic.

They can't absolutly resist magic. It really depends of abilities - we can't take bets upon some invisible fighters.
Besides didn't some templars rebelled?
It isn't templars vs mages anymore - it's an army of templars, warriors, (arcane warriors) and mages.

Modifié par MG800, 28 avril 2011 - 10:50 .

[tankgirly]

I have a question. As most of you guys might have done this already.
Have any of you tried the rivalry path, side with templars, and Anders still stay with you at the end of the game? So far it seemed impossible.
It's the first time I try that path and I must admit it is so hard to be mean to Anders.

[Jean]

tankgirly wrote...

I have a question. As most of you guys might have done this already.
Have any of you tried the rivalry path, side with templars, and Anders still stay with you at the end of the game? So far it seemed impossible.
It's the first time I try that path and I must admit it is so hard to be mean to Anders.

It is possible, but at the moment the rivalry ending path is bugged.