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[Mistress Tasharra]

Dear Anderstians.

This dialogue is only available on the Rivalmance path, correct? And it replaces the scene where Anders is trying to give Varric his pillow?

Or am I missing something? I love that dialogue. >.>

Edit: Yay for random top!

Modifié par Mistress Tasharra, 03 mai 2011 - 06:32 .

[mellifera]

Batteries wrote...

... I've never wanted to kill Seb. Not even at the end. Maybe slap him upside the head at a few moments but I can't blame him for acting or saying what he does at the end. I think he's a generally good guy who just gets caught up in all the insanity of Kirkwall just like everyone else.
I just can't dislike the guy outright.

Same here. Most of my issue with him actually stems from a dislike of religious preachiness so he was naturally never going to be my favorite. I don't want him dead or anything, and my Hawke doesn't see him as a serious threat either (he only had like, 3 conversations with him that whole time anyway lol).

[Camilladilla]

Batteries wrote...

... I've never wanted to kill Seb. Not even at the end. Maybe slap him upside the head at a few moments but I can't blame him for acting or saying what he does at the end. I think he's a generally good guy who just gets caught up in all the insanity of Kirkwall just like everyone else.
I just can't dislike the guy outright.

Of the companions Seb ranks at the bottom for me, but even still I find him adorable at times for how much of a goody two shoes he can be. It's just all of that Chantry preachiness of his that makes me want to wring his neck, ESPECIALLY that one conversation he had with Fenris when Fenris was detailing how he saw Denarius kill a slave and Sebastian just shrugs it off. Also wasn't big on that "none of us are free" speech he gave too. I got so frustrated when no one pointed out that having your family give you to the Chantry is totally not the same thing as having templars knock on your front door and drag you off to lock up in a tower.

But mostly I just like to make fun of him because it's well, fun.

[Jean]

Camilladilla wrote...

Batteries wrote...

... I've never wanted to kill Seb. Not even at the end. Maybe slap him upside the head at a few moments but I can't blame him for acting or saying what he does at the end. I think he's a generally good guy who just gets caught up in all the insanity of Kirkwall just like everyone else.
I just can't dislike the guy outright.

Of the companions Seb ranks at the bottom for me, but even still I find him adorable at times for how much of a goody two shoes he can be. It's just all of that Chantry preachiness of his that makes me want to wring his neck, ESPECIALLY that one conversation he had with Fenris when Fenris was detailing how he saw Denarius kill a slave and Sebastian just shrugs it off. Also wasn't big on that "none of us are free" speech he gave too. I got so frustrated when no one pointed out that having your family give you to the Chantry is totally not the same thing as having templars knock on your front door and drag you off to lock up in a tower.

But mostly I just like to make fun of him because it's well, fun.

That's the same conversation that I reaaallly wanted to slap him over. The "The Maker didn't cause all the bad things that happened in your life but he's totally the reason why the good things happened" doesn't cut it for me.

Modifié par Batteries, 03 mai 2011 - 06:51 .

[ipgd]

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Dear Anderstians.

This dialogue is only available on the Rivalmance path, correct? And it replaces the scene where Anders is trying to give Varric his pillow?

Or am I missing something? I love that dialogue. >.>

Edit: Yay for random top!

You (apparently) only get it on the friendship path if you don't already have 100 friendship (which you probably do at that point). You always get it on the rival path.

The rivalry pillow scene is this:

[Mistress Tasharra]

ipgd wrote...

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Dear Anderstians.

This dialogue is only available on the Rivalmance path, correct? And it replaces the scene where Anders is trying to give Varric his pillow?

Or am I missing something? I love that dialogue. >.>

Edit: Yay for random top!

You (apparently) only get it on the friendship path if you don't already have 100 friendship (which you probably do at that point). You always get it on the rival path.

The rivalry pillow scene is this:

Hmm. Interesting. Considering you can max out Friendship before you finish Act I... yeah. Thanks for that, BioWare.

Sounds like I'll have to cheat and keep removing friendship points as I earn them to get it. Yay.

[Miri1984]

I love Seb as a character, but don't like him as a person. It's the Chantry doctrine that gets me. I'm an athiest and I don't want people telling me that I have to believe in (what I perceive as) their imaginary friends or I'll be damned for eternity.

I have no objection to religious people in general, but I don't like people who preach at me.

ETA I've just realised that sounds a bit hypocritcal, given I love Anders so much, but I don't object to people knocking on my door and asking me to save the whales or contribute to the environment. When the preaching is for something other than saving my immortal soul (which I kind of think is my business) it's not so bad.

Modifié par Miri1984, 03 mai 2011 - 07:18 .

[highcastle]

yukidama wrote...

Batteries wrote...

... I've never wanted to kill Seb. Not even at the end. Maybe slap him upside the head at a few moments but I can't blame him for acting or saying what he does at the end. I think he's a generally good guy who just gets caught up in all the insanity of Kirkwall just like everyone else.
I just can't dislike the guy outright.

Same here. Most of my issue with him actually stems from a dislike of religious preachiness so he was naturally never going to be my favorite. I don't want him dead or anything, and my Hawke doesn't see him as a serious threat either (he only had like, 3 conversations with him that whole time anyway lol).

While I  still think killing Seb is a bit harsh, I get where a bit of that hate is coming from after doing a playthrough where I hauled him with me just about everywhere to see what he has to say (not a whole lot, as it turns out; he's somewhat more silent than many other companions, and he's super hard to earn rivalry with if you don't want to side with demons all the time, but that's the besides the point). What frustrated me was a dialogue I got between him and Fenris in Act 3, where despite my Hawke being an apostate and supposedly his buddy, Seb has the gaul to talk about drawing lots with Fenris to turn in Anders in Merril. With Hawke and Anders right there listening in. Even Fenris was (roughly) like "Cool it bro, I'm not fan of mages, but Hawke will kill you, fool!"

I just felt like, by this point in the game, Seb should not be thinking about turning on my companions for being mages...when I'm a freaking mage myself. It broke my brain a little bit. The preachiness I didn't mind so much--he didn't seem to spend much time trying to convert Hawke, and he backed down when the companions told him to stop (mostly). He just seems to be, well, an idiot.

We need a slap Sebastian mod, I swear.

[Bekkael]

highcastle wrote..
We need a slap Sebastian mod, I swear.

I support this.

[Herr Uhl]

The reason people hate Sebastian is because of Flanders.

...stupid sexy Flanders...

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Bekkael wrote...

highcastle wrote..
We need a slap Sebastian mod, I swear.

I support this.

This is one of the first things I saw this morning.

HELL YES.

[Ashwraith]

Herr Uhl wrote...

The reason people hate Sebastian is because of Flanders.

...stupid sexy Flanders...

It's like he's wearing nothing at all!
Nothing at all!
Nothing at all!   : D

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

On the topic of Seb, I don't despise him, and I'd assume that in his position I would flip if the murderer of a woman who was like a mother to me was allowed to walk free.
However, if he (a DLC) turns up later on with an army, I swear to you, I will MARDAR BioWare!
*cough* XD

Though he's still annoyingly preachy and seems incapable of independence.
And so much fun to pick on.

Besides I hate Bethany far more

On topic, I wonder where Anders and Hawke ran to...

Modifié par Dreaming-in-Shadow, 03 mai 2011 - 08:06 .

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Ashwraith wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

The reason people hate Sebastian is because of Flanders.

...stupid sexy Flanders...

It's like he's wearing nothing at all!
Nothing at all!
Nothing at all!   : D

[Melca36]

Miri1984 wrote...

I love Seb as a character, but don't like him as a person. It's the Chantry doctrine that gets me. I'm an athiest and I don't want people telling me that I have to believe in (what I perceive as) their imaginary friends or I'll be damned for eternity.

I have no objection to religious people in general, but I don't like people who preach at me.

ETA I've just realised that sounds a bit hypocritcal, given I love Anders so much, but I don't object to people knocking on my door and asking me to save the whales or contribute to the environment. When the preaching is for something other than saving my immortal soul (which I kind of think is my business) it's not so bad.

Nothing worse when they come at 7:45AM in the morning. <_< 

I have a HUGE issue with religion. I consider myself agnostic.  I would rather do something that contributes to society, like a clean up litter on the beach, or plant trees than spend my days trying to convert people.

This is how I get when religious people knock on the door when I have not had my coffee............

[Miri1984]

@Melca My son is amazing. He's 8 months and I've been door-knocked three times since he was born and every time he's started to scream at the top of his lungs as soon as the door is opened. Only ever for religious door-knockers. Suffice to say they back off pretty quick when you've got a screaming child on your hip. Or a vomiting one. That one was PRICELESS.

I'm beginning to wonder if he knows something I don't...

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Melca36 wrote...

Nothing worse when they come at 7:45AM in the morning. <_< 

I have a HUGE issue with religion. I consider myself agnostic.  I would rather do something that contributes to society, like a clean up litter on the beach, or plant trees than spend my days trying to convert people.

This is how I get when religious people knock on the door when I have not had my coffee............

*snipJustice*

One of the things I first learnt to appreciate about my own religion was that the vast majority (if not all) of its practitioners consider Preaching to be rude and an infringement of another's free-will.

Perhaps I should try screaming: THIS IS AN INJUSTICE!!! at the top of my lungs when they come to the door?

See signature for on-topic relevance.

Modifié par Dreaming-in-Shadow, 03 mai 2011 - 08:15 .

[Ashwraith]

But religious people are so much fun to troll! :U
I remember the first apartment I had, these fundamentalist types used to periodically make the round of the neighborhood and hand out leaflets.
One day, one of them approached me and said, "May I tell you about Jesus?"
"Depends!" I replied, in the cheeriest voice imaginable. "May I tell you about Satan?"
I don't usually mock people for their religious beliefs, mind you, but her facial expression made it allllllll worthwhile. >.>

Modifié par Ashwraith, 03 mai 2011 - 08:16 .

[Camilladilla]

Melca36 wrote...

Nothing worse when they come at 7:45AM in the morning. <_< 

I have a HUGE issue with religion. I consider myself agnostic.  I would rather do something that contributes to society, like a clean up litter on the beach, or plant trees than spend my days trying to convert people.

This is how I get when religious people knock on the door when I have not had my coffee............

*snorts*

They always seem to sense when I've worked the night shift too...

I'm a complete and utter **** if people wake me up from my sleep. I'm the type of person who flings the door open and snaps "WHAT!? THIS HAD BETTER BE GOOD!"

And god help you if you're a telemarketer calling me in the morning.

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Besides I hate Bethany far more.

Why hate Beth? She's supposed to be SWEET!

Modifié par Camilladilla, 03 mai 2011 - 08:16 .

[Amondra]

Personally I just look at the Chantry as mideval Catholic, which was a corrupt church with way to much power. Which funny enough had an templar army. That aside my feelings toward Seb were based on his strong faith. But his strong faith was blind.

I have my faith and I keep it close to my heart, but I will never speak of it unless asked as I don't see the point and I am not blind to it.

Also Dreaming why do you hate Bethany so much?

[Herr Uhl]

Ashwraith wrote...

But religious people are so much fun to troll! :U
I remember the first apartment I had, these fundamentalist types used to periodically make the round of the neighborhood and hand out leaflets.
One day, one of them approached me and said, "May I tell you about Jesus?"
"Depends!" I said, in the cheeriest voice imaginable. "May I tell you about Satan?"
I don't usually mock people for their religious beliefs, mind you, but her facial expression made it allllllll worthwhile. >.>

I'm confused, I live in Sweden and have gotten visitors telling me about the "mother godess" in shaky English two times in the last 4 months, but not a single Jehovah's witness (edit) over the last 3 years.

I'm disappoint in my indeginous preachers.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 03 mai 2011 - 08:20 .