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[Mekarah]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Let's close our eyes and pretend that friendmanced Anders is calming down after the Chantry goes boom and the get out of Silent Hill.

...er. Kirkwall. oh screw it, I've said it before and I'll say it again: They're the same thing.

Who's Pyramid Head!?!

I suppose it depends on who's hell it is, right? So uh...Hawke, right? Since he is the manifestation of James' perversions, to put it simply, then Kirkwall!Phead would be the manifestation of Hawke's...

Maybe I'm getting too deep into this. How about Meredith and her lyrium sword?

edit for top: TRIFECTA OF CUTE

Modifié par Mekarah, 03 mai 2011 - 09:12 .

[highcastle]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

...there must be contraceptives in Thedas, otherwise Izzy would be the mother of several children already.

I'm pretty sure Izzy's infertile. At least that was the vibe I got from her while giving her the Rivaini talisman.

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

ElleMullineux wrote...

See now my femHawke would totally take the risk. She was a love conquers all kinda girl with a can-kill attitude.

Isn't that exactly what the whole game slaps you in the face for thinking?

[Ryzaki]

Pseudocognition wrote...

ElleMullineux wrote...

See now my femHawke would totally take the risk. She was a love conquers all kinda girl with a can-kill attitude.

Isn't that exactly what the whole game slaps you in the face for thinking?

Depends. Not with Izzy, Merrill, Bethany, Carver or Fenris. 

Only with Anders does it slap you in the face. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 03 mai 2011 - 09:10 .

[ipgd]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

...there must be contraceptives in Thedas, otherwise Izzy would be the mother of several children already.

Wynne explicitly mentions contraception in a banter, so.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Amondra wrote...

LOL mpreg breaks my brain too.  However adopt Orna(?) She is just to cute! I know my Hawke was like "aww I am buying her dresses! and doing her hair all nice."  While Anders was looking up from his work with a WTF , we have templars breathing down our necks and you find time to play mom with your elf servant?!  You are worse then Merrill.  Then he goes back to work.

After losing Bethany, my Hawke's big sister overprotective tendencies came out toward Orana and Merrill.  Especially Orana; my Hawke was like a mom to her.  It killed her to send Orana away after DA2's clusterf*** finale.  

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

Ryzaki wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

ElleMullineux wrote...

See now my femHawke would totally take the risk. She was a love conquers all kinda girl with a can-kill attitude.

Isn't that exactly what the whole game slaps you in the face for thinking?

Depends. Not with Izzy, Merrill, Bethany, Carver or Fenris. 

Only with Anders does it slap you in the face. 

Well... right. Since we're talking about Anders and all.

[Bekkael]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

...there must be contraceptives in Thedas, otherwise Izzy would be the mother of several children already.

No, she has the kinds of VD that cause infertility. *facepalm*

[highcastle]

Ryzaki wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

ElleMullineux wrote...

See now my femHawke would totally take the risk. She was a love conquers all kinda girl with a can-kill attitude.

Isn't that exactly what the whole game slaps you in the face for thinking?

Depends. Not with Izzy, Merrill, Bethany, Carver or Fenris. 

Only with Anders does it slap you in the face. 

I don't know. There's also Quentin's whole "Do you know what the most powerful force in the universe is? Love." In another story, that's something you'd hear from a hero, not the worst villain in the whole damn city. 

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

highcastle wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

...there must be contraceptives in Thedas, otherwise Izzy would be the mother of several children already.

I'm pretty sure Izzy's infertile. At least that was the vibe I got from her while giving her the Rivaini talisman.

...I'm just going to refuse Hawke's rights to a family forever after.
It would appear Izzy may be infertile.
Anders is off his rocker (last we saw)
Fenris wouldn't react well to mage children.
After the Mirror stunt, I would never allow any children within five feet of Merrill. Ever. Sorry, Daisy.

Hawke should marry Varric, then there are no chances of mage babies! *shot* 

[Silfren]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...
  Protecting children is an even stronger evolutionary drive than self-preservation, possibly strong enough to overcome Justice's fanaticism.

No way. It'd make Andice just all the more likely to annhilate the world lest it threaten his babby!

[mellifera]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Amondra wrote...

LOL mpreg breaks my brain too.  However adopt Orna(?) She is just to cute! I know my Hawke was like "aww I am buying her dresses! and doing her hair all nice."  While Anders was looking up from his work with a WTF , we have templars breathing down our necks and you find time to play mom with your elf servant?!  You are worse then Merrill.  Then he goes back to work.

After losing Bethany, my Hawke's big sister overprotective tendencies came out toward Orana and Merrill.  Especially Orana; my Hawke was like a mom to her.  It killed her to send Orana away after DA2's clusterf*** finale.  

Lenox took Orana with them. Like this:

[ipgd]

Bekkael wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

...there must be contraceptives in Thedas, otherwise Izzy would be the mother of several children already.

No, she has the kinds of VD that cause infertility. *facepalm*

Typically you need to have sex before you contract an STI. Many times, normally.

[Sable Rhapsody]

highcastle wrote...

I don't know. There's also Quentin's whole "Do you know what the most powerful force in the universe is? Love." In another story, that's something you'd hear from a hero, not the worst villain in the whole damn city. 

I didn't even think of that.

Apparently after "The road to hell is paved with good intentions," the moral of the DA franchise is, "Love sucks.  Don't do it."

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

ipgd wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

...there must be contraceptives in Thedas, otherwise Izzy would be the mother of several children already.

Wynne explicitly mentions contraception in a banter, so.

Oh? I never listened to a word Wynne said.
It mostly came out as "blah blah blah. Listen to me going on like I'm the most knowledgeable woman on the face of Thedas when in fact I spent most of my life in a bloody tower."

That aside, I quite like her.
Especially when taking her across the bridge in Orzamar with Zev in the party.

[Ryzaki]

Pseudocognition wrote...
Well... right. Since we're talking about Anders and all.

Ah true. 

highcastle wrote...
I don't know. There's also Quentin's whole "Do you know what the most powerful force in the universe is? Love." In another story, that's something you'd hear from a hero, not the worst villain in the whole damn city. 

I love hearing it from heros and villians alike. I dislike stories where villians aren't capable of understanding how unhealthy and damaging love can sometimes be. (as well as how useful it can be to themselves). 

The only time I ever felt punished for going along with something out of love was with Anders. Everywhere else it was fine. Love mkes Carver stand against Meredith, You can reunite with Bethany and that's the first thing she says, your mother lives long enough to tell you she loves you (you can't save her but that was more poor timing than love), and so on.

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Mekarah wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Let's close our eyes and pretend that friendmanced Anders is calming down after the Chantry goes boom and the get out of Silent Hill.

...er. Kirkwall. oh screw it, I've said it before and I'll say it again: They're the same thing.

Who's Pyramid Head!?!

I suppose it depends on who's hell it is, right? So uh...Hawke, right? Since he is the manifestation of James' perversions, to put it simply, then Kirkwall!Phead would be the manifestation of Hawke's...

Maybe I'm getting too deep into this. How about Meredith and her lyrium sword?

...just what the hell does that imply for Hawke!?

[Bekkael]

ipgd wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

...there must be contraceptives in Thedas, otherwise Izzy would be the mother of several children already.

No, she has the kinds of VD that cause infertility. *facepalm*

Typically you need to have sex before you contract an STI. Many times, normally.

Isabela's character has more sex than even I can imagine (and I can imagine quite a bit.). Not sure Anders magical treatments can heal her of everything. I think she would definitely suffer from STI...in my head, anyway. 

[thebrute7]

Quentin's comment on love being the most powerful force in the universe is the sort of overarching premise of my fic. I firmly believe he is right too. But yes, the game did seem to be about extremes and the dangers of extremes of emotion or ideals.

[Ryzaki]

ElleMullineux wrote...
I don't think it does - your love for him doesn't stop him doing what he needs to (and I don't disagree with blowing up the chantry. I think it needed to happen) - But your love gives him a chance at redemption - you can spare him at the end which is equal parts cruel and lovely. Now whether you spare him to have him side with the templars, or you spare him to fight in the war that he started is players choice, but either way he is given the chance to atone rather than disappear into history as a martyr. 

I think the game (Quentin/ Keeper Momma lady - can't remember her name) shows the extremes that love will take you to, just Anders shows you the extremes that Justice can take you to. I quite enjoyed having my anti-blood magic Hawke turn to Gascard's blood magic to find her mother as an expression of the extremes that she'd go to for love.

I disagree with blowing up the Chantry so for me I spent the whole game trying and trying to help him. On the rivalry path your love doesn't help him get rid of Vengeance. It doesn't stop him from blowing up the Chantry. 

He even says as much. Skip to 2:25  

No matter how much he loves Hawke he can't control himself. He thought it would help but it didn't. It couldn't. Not sure about the friendship path because I don't play that so often. But I don't see that as redemption as much as letting him get whathe wanted. Either way he gets what he wants. A war. I doubt Justice will let Anders sit idly by on the sidelines. Especially not when his first scheme went off so well. (Assumming you side with the mages since if you side with the templars you're forced to kill him well...currently anyway.) 

I would've preferred becoming a serial killer personally. That would've felt impactful. As it is now I don't even bother with the blood ritual. Leads to the same point anyway. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 03 mai 2011 - 09:26 .

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

thebrute7 wrote...

Quentin's comment on love being the most powerful force in the universe is the sort of overarching premise of my fic. I firmly believe he is right too. But yes, the game did seem to be about extremes and the dangers of extremes of emotion or ideals.

Fade thin.

"I don't believe in coincidences."

[ipgd]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Oh? I never listened to a word Wynne said.

Alistair: So you... mentioned you had a son? What happened to him?
Wynne: I honestly don't know, Alistair. He was... taken from me. Such births are seldom, as there are ways to prevent it, but it does happen. And any child born to a Circle mage belongs to the Chantry.
Alistair: I... didn't know. I'm sorry.
Wynne: It's all right. It was a long time ago. A very long time ago.
Alistair: Couldn't you do something about it?
Wynne: Do what? I was weak from the birthing process and there were... no, there was nothing I could do.
Alistair: Do you think about him?
Wynne: All the time.

Bekkael wrote...

Isabela's character has more sex than even I can imagine (and I can imagine quite a bit.). Not sure Anders magical treatments can heal her of everything. I think she would definitely suffer from STI...in my head, anyway.

If she weren't using contraception she probably would have become pregnant before she could contract any STIs serious enough to render her infertile in the first place, if she isn't infertile for other reasons. She also lives in a world with magic healing, and is explicitly shown getting an infection dealt with (read: she exercises some amount of responsibility instead of racking up infections and spreading them), so I seriously doubt she's actually the smorgasbord of disease that people seem to want to believe people who like sex are.

Modifié par ipgd, 03 mai 2011 - 09:33 .

[thebrute7]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

thebrute7 wrote...

Quentin's comment on love being the most powerful force in the universe is the sort of overarching premise of my fic. I firmly believe he is right too. But yes, the game did seem to be about extremes and the dangers of extremes of emotion or ideals.

Fade thin.

"I don't believe in coincidences."

True.  That thin Veil has got to be murder on all those mages.  The Chantry is full of idiots.  Let's put a Cicle in a place where the Veil is almost nonexistent.  Freaking brilliant,