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[Amondra]

GailRana wrote...

Amondra wrote...

LoneWolf4191 wrote...

Iam curious as to what will be in 3....will they continue Hawke's quest? Or would they move onto someone else? Could it be Morrigan's god child? lol we create what her child looks like.... that would be funny, I would suspect someone to advertise a completely unattractive one at some point....

Well they mention the Warden missing too. I would love to beable to play my Warden and Hawke so much! and if both their LI's are alive, they join them...but this is my romantic showing.  I just want an epic adventure with my two epic heroes is all

aww, i'd love to play my warden again. i miss her! Though she may be a bit heartbroken when she finds out that Anders fell for hawke and didn't give her the time of day... <_<

I miss mine too  LOL Elise won't mind she has Alistair.  However my Amell...that could het ugly...all I can see for that is "MAGE VS. TEMPLAR ROUND ONE!  WINNER GETS ANDERS!"

Anders: Wait what?!
Justice in creep mode: Can't we share?

[GailRana]

Amondra wrote...

GailRana wrote...

Amondra wrote...

LoneWolf4191 wrote...

Iam curious as to what will be in 3....will they continue Hawke's quest? Or would they move onto someone else? Could it be Morrigan's god child? lol we create what her child looks like.... that would be funny, I would suspect someone to advertise a completely unattractive one at some point....

Well they mention the Warden missing too. I would love to beable to play my Warden and Hawke so much! and if both their LI's are alive, they join them...but this is my romantic showing.  I just want an epic adventure with my two epic heroes is all

aww, i'd love to play my warden again. i miss her! Though she may be a bit heartbroken when she finds out that Anders fell for hawke and didn't give her the time of day... <_<

I miss mine too  LOL Elise won't mind she has Alistair.  However my Amell...that could het ugly...all I can see for that is "MAGE VS. TEMPLAR ROUND ONE!  WINNER GETS ANDERS!"

Anders: Wait what?!
Justice in creep mode: Can't we share?

lol! Poor confused Anders. He's such a heartbreaker <3


Note to self: Find and learn how to activate Justice's creep mode. it sounds entertaining 

[GailRana]

lol, if they do make a Hawke/Warden team up game maybe i should make my canon Hawke a male so at least my Warden can step back and think, "Ok, the knitting thing makes sense now..." and not take the rejection part too personally.

(fortunately she doesn't know Anders falls for the person and not the gender. don't tell her, it will only make things worse!)

[Amondra]

GailRana wrote...

Amondra wrote...

GailRana wrote...

Amondra wrote...

LoneWolf4191 wrote...

Iam curious as to what will be in 3....will they continue Hawke's quest? Or would they move onto someone else? Could it be Morrigan's god child? lol we create what her child looks like.... that would be funny, I would suspect someone to advertise a completely unattractive one at some point....

Well they mention the Warden missing too. I would love to beable to play my Warden and Hawke so much! and if both their LI's are alive, they join them...but this is my romantic showing.  I just want an epic adventure with my two epic heroes is all

aww, i'd love to play my warden again. i miss her! Though she may be a bit heartbroken when she finds out that Anders fell for hawke and didn't give her the time of day... <_<

I miss mine too  LOL Elise won't mind she has Alistair.  However my Amell...that could het ugly...all I can see for that is "MAGE VS. TEMPLAR ROUND ONE!  WINNER GETS ANDERS!"

Anders: Wait what?!
Justice in creep mode: Can't we share?

lol! Poor confused Anders. He's such a heartbreaker <3


Note to self: Find and learn how to activate Justice's creep mode. it sounds entertaining 

It is!  He stares at Hawkes butt and blames Anders.  He is secretly possessive of her, and wants to curb stomp Fenris Kirkwall style, also he wants in on girls night with Isabela and Hawke...

[GailRana]

Amondra wrote...

*snip*

It is!  He stares at Hawkes butt and blames Anders.  He is secretly possessive of her, and wants to curb stomp Fenris Kirkwall style, also he wants in on girls night with Isabela and Hawke...

I bet all that Vengeance nonsense is just from all his repressed feelings. Poor fellow!

[Amondra]

GailRana wrote...

Amondra wrote...

*snip*

It is!  He stares at Hawkes butt and blames Anders.  He is secretly possessive of her, and wants to curb stomp Fenris Kirkwall style, also he wants in on girls night with Isabela and Hawke...

I bet all that Vengeance nonsense is just from all his repressed feelings. Poor fellow!

I know  

However is this all a product of my love for him!  I loved Justice in Awakening.  I really wish I could help him and Anders.

[kromify]

ElleMullineux wrote...
^^ This! I want to know how the event that I sided with and condoned panned out. I also want to know how historry records what happened. Played through Sacred Urn in DA:O last night (hence being up till 4am) and the story of Andraste and her supporters made me wonder if Hawke and their team would be remembered in a similiar fashion. Is Anders Andraste or was he Maferath? Does it depend on who you sided with? Or if you marderknifed him? It would be interesting to see History repeat itself and how your players shape that.

if hawke was a mage people would go to his/her ashes. eww
no two stories compare exactly. what you choose will probs make anders a hero or a traitor - either way it would be so awesome if we started a whole new religion!

[Ninche]

Threeparts wrote...


The Blight started in 9:30, right? Act I would have started around 9:31, Act II in 9:34, Act III 9:37, Varric questioned in 9:40. I thiiink those numbers are right. So we've only got 60 years of game time left in the Dragon Age, unless they overlap more or jump back to the first three decades. While I would love to play our Warden or Hawke again, it would also be kind of neat for the next game to be set thirty years or more in the future, so we can see the outcome of the war, and the next PC be a product of that changed world, who grew up listening to tales of the Hero and the Champion.

Hehe I love that! I love the whole concept of playing different games and different characters and ACTUALLY shaping the world as we go. It could be an epic build up if BW handles it well. And wouldn't it be great to read codexes about an older character or about events such as the chantry jenga, read the speculations of the scholars who wrote them and glee because you were THERE and you know exactly what happened ^^ Ehh

I wonder what the next Age will be. Maybe the last DA game will be set during 9:99, with the next Age named after our PC. That would be hilarious. I suppose it still depends if we have Divines in another sixty years. How far-reaching will Anders' revolution be?

An age named after us would be amazing. Also, what if Sandal's prophecy is actually a HUGE deal? You know how the chantry says that the old dragon gods taught men how to use magic and the ancient tevinters worshipped them? Then we know that for w.e reason the old gods died and then suddenly POOF there's darkspawn and what do they do? They dig to find those old gods in order to raise them. The Chantry has vague explanations of all these stuff but I'm wondering if when the old gods died magic receeded from the world and only few remained able to connenct to the fade. Sorry for the rambling, basically I'm wondering if magic won't return somehow and then everyone would be able to use it to some extent. It would be great to name the new age after Magic returning to the people. And then maybe Anders' name will be equal to Andraste, I don't like religion but even I think that's cool  

[Threeparts]

Ninche wrote...

It would be great to name the new age after Magic returning to the people. And then maybe Anders' name will be equal to Andraste, I don't like religion but even I think that's cool  

Every time someone compares Anders to Andraste, there's only one thing that I can possibly picture.

[Heidenreich]

Ninche wrote...

*awesome-quote-snipsnip*

An age named after us would be amazing. Also, what if Sandal's prophecy is actually a HUGE deal? You know how the chantry says that the old dragon gods taught men how to use magic and the ancient tevinters worshipped them? Then we know that for w.e reason the old gods died and then suddenly POOF there's darkspawn and what do they do? They dig to find those old gods in order to raise them. The Chantry has vague explanations of all these stuff but I'm wondering if when the old gods died magic receeded from the world and only few remained able to connenct to the fade. Sorry for the rambling, basically I'm wondering if magic won't return somehow and then everyone would be able to use it to some extent. It would be great to name the new age after Magic returning to the people. And then maybe Anders' name will be equal to Andraste, I don't like religion but even I think that's cool  

This is incorrect. The Old gods didn't die. They were imprisoned by the original panthion of gods (see, Dalish/Elvahn gods). Those gods were then in turn tricked into being locked up in their perspective realms by the one god who was nether good, nor bad -- Fan'Harel, aka, The Maker. (You wont convince me otherwise of this, by the way, its pratically slapping us in the face. Only WoG will convince me that Fan'Harel isn't The Maker ;p )

Fan'Maker'Harel was sitting pretty in his golden palace, surrounded by awesome naked desire demons to do his every bidding and whim.. and completely oblivious to what the human magisters were up to. It was mostly a big joke to him anyway,

Until the magisters knocked on his door. He was pissed, so he cursed them and sent them packing -- the first darkspawn. I'm nearly convinced that the archetect is actually one of those first magisters. He doesn't remember it.. or maybe he does and is lieing. Ooo.

Never the less, those magisters were furious, because the old gods were like "he'll be easy to kill and then you can let us out!" so they went to HAVE A WORD with them.. the architect was like "that's probably not a good idea", but the rest of them ignored him. When they met the first dragon and went to be mad, instead their curse jumped to the dragon (another joke by fan'maker'harel), and the first blight began ;p

Fast forward a couple more hundred years, and Fan'Harel is bored of the desire demons and the darkspawn wars (as lulzy as they totally were). So he's wandering around and hears Andraste and is all utterlly shameboner for her. He's a god, no..'the god', right? and he's sick to death that his antics with the magister lords didn't really put any kind fo dent in their worship of the old gods. Plus those alamarii dicks keep worshiping mountians..

So Andraste is singing and she's HOT and he's BORED, so he pops down and is all "I AM GOD, I WANT YOU BABY." and she's all ".... bull**** yea right." and he's all "LOOK I CAN DO AMAZING THINGS SEE" and she's all "... k that's pretty hot, but i'm married. Sorry.".. and he's all "COME BE MY QUEEN AND I'LL DO ANYTHING YOU WANT", cuz he's really into her.. you know how men will say anything ;p

and she's all ".. Still married, good man, takes good care of me. I'll make you a deal. We'll due, if you free the slaves and kill the tevinter dicks for me kthx plz." and he's all ".... k sure, but only if you get everyone in all of thedas to worship me instead of all their many imagionary gods, k? (looollllllllll)"


Queue exalted march. Except it was taking to long, and he wanted to get some. So he's all "Yo math'. I'm totally dueing your wife and everyone LOVES HER for it. Way more then you. Can you believe it? lulz, your just not that cool anymore."

Queue Andraste buring at the stake, and the maker'harel saying "Sorry baby, humans are dumb. Lets go to bed."


The end.


And this, I'm convinced, is how it happened.

Modifié par Heidenreich, 08 mai 2011 - 01:33 .

[Ninche]

Heidenreich wrote...

This is incorrect. The Old gods didn't die. They were imprisoned by the original panthion of gods (see, Dalish/Elvahn gods). Those gods were then in turn tricked into being locked up in their perspective realms by the one god who was nether good, nor bad -- Fan'Harel, aka, The Maker. (You wont convince me otherwise of this, by the way, its pratically slapping us in the face. Only WoG will convince me that Fan'Harel isn't The Maker ;p )

Fan'Maker'Harel was sitting pretty in his golden palace, surrounded by awesome naked desire demons to do his every bidding and whim.. and completely oblivious to what the human magisters were up to. It was mostly a big joke to him anyway,

Until the magisters knocked on his door. He was pissed, so he cursed them and sent them packing -- the first darkspawn. I'm nearly convinced that the archetect is actually one of those first magisters. He doesn't remember it.. or maybe he does and is lieing. Ooo.

Never the less, those magisters were furious, because the old gods were like "he'll be easy to kill and then you can let us out!" so they went to HAVE A WORD with them.. the architect was like "that's probably not a good idea", but the rest of them ignored him. When they met the first dragon and went to be mad, instead their curse jumped to the dragon (another joke by fan'maker'harel), and the first blight began ;p

Fast forward a couple more hundred years, and Fan'Harel is bored of the desire demons and the darkspawn wars (as lulzy as they totally were). So he's wandering around and hears Andraste and is all utterlly shameboner for her. He's a god, no..'the god', right? and he's sick to death that his antics with the magister lords didn't really put any kind fo dent in their worship of the old gods. Plus those alamarii dicks keep worshiping mountians..

So Andraste is singing and she's HOT and he's BORED, so he pops down and is all "I AM GOD, I WANT YOU BABY." and she's all ".... bull**** yea right." and he's all "LOOK I CAN DO AMAZING THINGS SEE" and she's all "... k that's pretty hot, but i'm married. Sorry.".. and he's all "COME BE MY QUEEN AND I'LL DO ANYTHING YOU WANT", cuz he's really into her.. you know how men will say anything ;p

and she's all ".. Still married, good man, takes good care of me. I'll make you a deal. We'll due, if you free the slaves and kill the tevinter dicks for me kthx plz." and he's all ".... k sure, but only if you get everyone in all of thedas to worship me instead of all their many imagionary gods, k? (looollllllllll)"


Queue exalted march. Except it was taking to long, and he wanted to get some. So he's all "Yo math'. I'm totally dueing your wife and everyone LOVES HER for it. Way more then you. Can you believe it? lulz, your just not that cool anymore."

Queue Andraste buring at the stake, and the maker'harel saying "Sorry baby, humans are dumb. Lets go to bed."


The end.

And this, I'm convinced, is how it happened.

Waaaw... I don't even...I'm just... blown away by your knowledge and wisdom. I take my speculations back and bow down before you OH THEE ONE TRUE MISTRESS OF KNOWLEDGE. 

And @Threeparts: Ahahahahaha The Monty Python films hold all the wisdom in the known universe. 

[kromify]

i'm sure it's cannon to the writers

[dpMeggers]

Heidenreich wrote...

Ninche wrote...

*awesome-quote-snipsnip*

An age named after us would be amazing. Also, what if Sandal's prophecy is actually a HUGE deal? You know how the chantry says that the old dragon gods taught men how to use magic and the ancient tevinters worshipped them? Then we know that for w.e reason the old gods died and then suddenly POOF there's darkspawn and what do they do? They dig to find those old gods in order to raise them. The Chantry has vague explanations of all these stuff but I'm wondering if when the old gods died magic receeded from the world and only few remained able to connenct to the fade. Sorry for the rambling, basically I'm wondering if magic won't return somehow and then everyone would be able to use it to some extent. It would be great to name the new age after Magic returning to the people. And then maybe Anders' name will be equal to Andraste, I don't like religion but even I think that's cool  

This is incorrect. The Old gods didn't die. They were imprisoned by the original panthion of gods (see, Dalish/Elvahn gods). Those gods were then in turn tricked into being locked up in their perspective realms by the one god who was nether good, nor bad -- Fan'Harel, aka, The Maker. (You wont convince me otherwise of this, by the way, its pratically slapping us in the face. Only WoG will convince me that Fan'Harel isn't The Maker ;p )
*Snips awesome*

Awesome story (and it is awesome) but your timeline is a bit off at the beginning.

The Dalish were enslaved by the Tevinters, and this only happened after the loss of their Gods, which is why they got no help from that source (Source). So the Dalish Gods couldn't have imprisoned the Old Gods, they were already imprisoned themselves. It was the Maker (whoever he is) who stuck the Old Gods in their prison because the Tevinters were worshipping them instead of him. (Source)

Other than that...ya I can see how that would work.

[kromify]

 i'm sure it's cannon to the writers  

[Heidenreich]

dpMeggers wrote...

Heidenreich wrote...

Ninche wrote...

*awesome-quote-snipsnip*

An age named after us would be amazing. Also, what if Sandal's prophecy is actually a HUGE deal? You know how the chantry says that the old dragon gods taught men how to use magic and the ancient tevinters worshipped them? Then we know that for w.e reason the old gods died and then suddenly POOF there's darkspawn and what do they do? They dig to find those old gods in order to raise them. The Chantry has vague explanations of all these stuff but I'm wondering if when the old gods died magic receeded from the world and only few remained able to connenct to the fade. Sorry for the rambling, basically I'm wondering if magic won't return somehow and then everyone would be able to use it to some extent. It would be great to name the new age after Magic returning to the people. And then maybe Anders' name will be equal to Andraste, I don't like religion but even I think that's cool  

This is incorrect. The Old gods didn't die. They were imprisoned by the original panthion of gods (see, Dalish/Elvahn gods). Those gods were then in turn tricked into being locked up in their perspective realms by the one god who was nether good, nor bad -- Fan'Harel, aka, The Maker. (You wont convince me otherwise of this, by the way, its pratically slapping us in the face. Only WoG will convince me that Fan'Harel isn't The Maker ;p )
*Snips awesome*

Awesome story (and it is awesome) but your timeline is a bit off at the beginning.

The Dalish were enslaved by the Tevinters, and this only happened after the loss of their Gods, which is why they got no help from that source (Source). So the Dalish Gods couldn't have imprisoned the Old Gods, they were already imprisoned themselves. It was the Maker (whoever he is) who stuck the Old Gods in their prison because the Tevinters were worshipping them instead of him. (Source)

Other than that...ya I can see how that would work.

The Dalish were enslaved by the tevinters, who worshiped the old gods who were already locked away ;p The Fan'harel locked up the gods, allowing the tevinters to take over the elves.


So.. Fan'Harel was trolling the elves. "I'll totally let out your gods if you help me shut up the elves. I hate them. K?"

and then didn't deliver on his promise, so the magister lords were like "OMG SO MAD LETS GO TALK TO HIM AT HIS HOUSE I HEAR HE HAS CHEESE."

and Fan'harel was pissed cuz he was going to get to it eventually, but he was busy with his hot demons atm god guys chill.




it could TOTALLY HAPPEN.





pS: happy mommies day BSN mommies <3

Modifié par Heidenreich, 08 mai 2011 - 02:11 .

[Ninche]

I don't know what to make of all the chantry Maker preeching. At least we know that the old gods existed - if they were gods or not is debateable but they were creatures of great power and influence, dragons, and one way or another ended up underground. Do we have any actual proof of the existance of any other gods? Like the elven gods or w/e? I admit I'm not familliar with the topic

[TripLight]

GailRana wrote...

LoneWolf4191 wrote...

Iam curious as to what will be in 3....will they continue Hawke's quest? Or would they move onto someone else? Could it be Morrigan's god child? lol we create what her child looks like.... that would be funny, I would suspect someone to advertise a completely unattractive one at some point....

*wonders what a Morrigan/Alistair god baby would look like*

I'd be cool, but only if they come up with a good excuse for those who didn't do the "dark deed". Maybe they'll say that she seduced Riordan or something.

Because I can't help myself:

[Heidenreich]

*flail* morrigan's baby is a BOY. OMG.

*huffs*

also, blonde.
;p

[kromify]

Heidenreich wrote...

*flail* morrigan's baby is a BOY. OMG.

*huffs*

also, blonde.
;p

you don't have witch hunt?

[TripLight]

Ninche wrote...

I don't know what to make of all the chantry Maker preeching. At least we know that the old gods existed - if they were gods or not is debateable but they were creatures of great power and influence, dragons, and one way or another ended up underground. Do we have any actual proof of the existance of any other gods? Like the elven gods or w/e? I admit I'm not familliar with the topic

The Avvar I think did have a pantheon they worshipped, they even had architecture (i.e Tower at Kinloch Hold, Vigil's Keep Lower levels) supporting this. And Alamarri, before they fled to the Korcari wilds to become the Chasind.

As for the Dalish, look at the elvhen ruins, especially the water ritual in "Nature of the Beast", they did have statues and idols. But then again, this also matches Tevinter Ruins as well, like the Tower of Ishal and its lower levels.

Modifié par TripLight, 08 mai 2011 - 02:37 .

[Ninche]

TripLight wrote...

Ninche wrote...

I don't know what to make of all the chantry Maker preeching. At least we know that the old gods existed - if they were gods or not is debateable but they were creatures of great power and influence, dragons, and one way or another ended up underground. Do we have any actual proof of the existance of any other gods? Like the elven gods or w/e? I admit I'm not familliar with the topic

The Avvar I think did have a pantheon they worshipped, they even had architecture (i.e Tower at Kinloch Hold, Vigil's Keep Lower levels) supporting this. And Alamarri, before they fled to the Korcari wilds to become the Chasind.

As for the Dalish, look at the elvhen ruins, especially the water ritual in "Nature of the Beast", they did have statues and idols. But then again, this also matches Tevinter Ruins as well, like the Tower of Ishal and its lower levels.

Hmm I know they had statues and idols and things, and I know we come across Andraste's ashes but none of these are solid proof of the actual existance of the Maker or any of the other pagan gods - just that people believed gods existed. Which is why the old dragon gods are so fascinating - because they ARE real! 

I just read some really interesting stuff about the ancient
Tevinter empire, it's apparently based on the rl Roman Empire and more specifically
on Byzantium - which is sort of awesome, I'm experiencing a sort of morbid
fascination with this empire who could turn people into living statues and
build indestructible bridges and towers and talk to dragons and stuff. I don't
really accept the chantry's version of events as the truth at all - it's the
ambiguity of all the religions that make dragon age so fascinatingly realistic.
In that sense - I loved DA2 and I enjoyed the personal intimate stuff about
having one character and living their life and everything revolves around them
and their friends etc, but I do feel like there's this huuuuuge world full of
wonders and mysteries out there that we don't get a taste of, apart from a few
dozen codexes. Hopefully the next game will show us new places and some more
epic mythical stuff 

[kromify]

maybe some characters converted when they reached the temple...?

i've always wondered what was the deal with the guardian. the rest of the temple could be explained by powerful magic, but one guy living for centuries and centuries whilst slowly fading into being a spirit. dunno what magic could cause that.

[izzytizzy]

kromify wrote...

i've always wondered what was the deal with the guardian. the rest of the temple could be explained by powerful magic, but one guy living for centuries and centuries whilst slowly fading into being a spirit. dunno what magic could cause that.

This. I don't know if he has a bigger role to play, but it seemed like his involvement was... too small?
Don't know.

[kromify]

izzytizzy wrote...

kromify wrote...

i've always wondered what was the deal with the guardian. the rest of the temple could be explained by powerful magic, but one guy living for centuries and centuries whilst slowly fading into being a spirit. dunno what magic could cause that.

This. I don't know if he has a bigger role to play, but it seemed like his involvement was... too small?
Don't know.

his involvement was probably just a way to communicate with the player and i'm reading too much into it. they won't explain the truth behind the religions because that would spoil the magic, but it would be cool to have a prequel or two.