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#37876
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TripLight wrote...

I am kinda digging the Qunari redesign though, the elves, I don't know why, maybe because of new nose structure give me the impression of looking at a sheep or goat, I can't shake it either.


Yeah, I'm fine with the new Qunari. Elves, dear lord…Merrill is the only one who pulled it off.

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#37877
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kromify wrote...


she will mention him in the convo about her finding a new suitor if you're in a romance

Then probably I always talked to her too soon in the Act, before Anders moved in. I expected some comment like Bodan's or Gamlen...oh well, I'll keep in my to talk to her later in the next playthrough :\\ 

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TripLight wrote...

I am kinda digging the Qunari redesign though, the elves, I don't know why, maybe because of new nose structure give me the impression of looking at a sheep or goat, I can't shake it either.


this :unsure:

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Celestina wrote...

Humans more naturalistic? Yes, elves and qunari NO.

There's a difference between stylization and creating an anatomical structure for an entirely different race of people. The entire purpose of anime is to make animating it quick and easy, through liberal use of minimization and exaggerated, symbol-based "notation" to create very simple yet easily recognizable expressions, versus the use of line/value to first and foremost show form that represents procedurally generated expressions. The models in DA2 work with entirely representational expressions and rendering. There is nothing about the art direction that resembles anime, and while not entirely naturalistic (more because of texture/polycount limitations than a stylistic decision towards deliberate simplification, most likely), it did get a LOT closer in DA2.

Even speaking on a purely aesthetic level, there's not much about the elf or qunari redesign that really has anything in common with traditional "anime" aesthetic, besides, what, elves having heads and eyes that are marginally proportionately larger than humans (unless 'thin, doesn't have facial hair' is suddenly an anime thing)? There are many things about the facial design that are distinctly not very anime at all, the most obvious of which being the defined nose structure vs. the minimalization of all non-eye related objects in anime. Qunari are also about a thousand miles from anything you'd ever associate with any kind of anime stereotype.


Big swords…not anime...JRPG much then?

Certainly not exclusive to eastern media at all.

Modifié par ipgd, 08 mai 2011 - 09:07 .


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I've only just started Awakenings so I couldn't say for sure, but the impression I get is that AAnders would bolt if things became too serious. Whereas JAnders has a steadfastness which allows him to bring another person into his world, Justice has made him a better boyfriend. I imagine part of it is related to the fact that Hawke still wants him too after 3 years, so Anders sees some of himself reflected back. I think JAnders needs the love but can't risk being distracted by something fleeting. He needs support and waiting for him demonstrates that.

As for Leandra - I have a shocking relationship with my mother and tbh it reminded me a bit of this... If I still had to see her more than once a year. She is just so happy to be back in society, and I don't think she ever recovered from what loving Malcolm did to her. Add exceptional times and just about everyone dying, well, angst galore. I loved being able to shout at Aveline, I thought that was brilliantly done. And I love how the different LI's respond as well. For my Hawke it was the perfect time to decide to move on from Fenris because... He's an arse. It means you miss out on Anders comforting scene but it RP's well in my head as the catalyst that sends Hawke into Anders arms after all of his warnings.

(Apologises for sP's, on my phone!)

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This comic
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by rabbitzoro had this video linked with it. That made me laugh more than it should have. I also would have accepted it if that was how Anders asked to move in with Hawke.

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ElleMullineux wrote...

I've only just started Awakenings so I couldn't say for sure, but the impression I get is that AAnders would bolt if things became too serious. Whereas JAnders has a steadfastness which allows him to bring another person into his world, Justice has made him a better boyfriend. I imagine part of it is related to the fact that Hawke still wants him too after 3 years, so Anders sees some of himself reflected back. I think JAnders needs the love but can't risk being distracted by something fleeting. He needs support and waiting for him demonstrates that.

As for Leandra - I have a shocking relationship with my mother and tbh it reminded me a bit of this... If I still had to see her more than once a year. She is just so happy to be back in society, and I don't think she ever recovered from what loving Malcolm did to her. Add exceptional times and just about everyone dying, well, angst galore. I loved being able to shout at Aveline, I thought that was brilliantly done. And I love how the different LI's respond as well. For my Hawke it was the perfect time to decide to move on from Fenris because... He's an arse. It means you miss out on Anders comforting scene but it RP's well in my head as the catalyst that sends Hawke into Anders arms after all of his warnings.

(Apologises for sP's, on my phone!)


my thumb would be very sore if i had to text all this!!!  :D

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 is it just me or is fenris not as thin as other elves? maybe it's just his shoulder armour and being better rendered, but still...
on topic; anders's nose is smexy  :P

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kromify wrote...

 is it just me or is fenris not as thin as other elves? maybe it's just his shoulder armour and being better rendered, but still...
on topic; anders's nose is smexy  :P


No it's not just you, and when you have Zevran walk besides Isabella as they leave for sexytiems, he is huge compared to her.

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YamiSnuffles wrote...

This comic
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by rabbitzoro had this video linked with it. That made me laugh more than it should have. I also would have accepted it if that was how Anders asked to move in with Hawke.


Okay, this is adorkable and hilarious and is just the sort of thing to pick me up from my depressed mood. The next time I play the DA2 moving in scene, I'm so going to be picturing this.

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highcastle wrote...
You know, I never disliked Leandra for what she said. Yes, it was cruel and unfair, but that's what makes us human. We're not always at our best in times of grief. Look at Hawke's potential reactions after losing his mother, after all. Blaming the mages is just another facet of that same kind of anger. Plus, Leandra realizes it and apologizes after the fact.


This.  I don't see why people have such a hard time understanding someone lashing out in grief and regretting it later.  I do it all the time in real life and for much less reason.

I love picking all the "irrational grief" options during and after that quest, like snapping at Anders about mages and yelling at Aveline.  It makes Hawke feel much more real to me.

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Ok despite the modded Anders, this comic damn near killed me:

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post a link? it's difficult to read

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TripLight wrote...

Ok despite the modded Anders, this comic damn near killed me:

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Thanks for passing this along, it damn near killed me as well. It should be locked up before it claims a victim.
Is it sad that those... lets call them pickup lines would have definitely worked for me.

-Edit- @kromify, If you right click on the image then go to 'view image' you can get a full page view.

Modifié par Loain, 08 mai 2011 - 10:37 .


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kromify wrote...

post a link? it's difficult to read


Right click on it and select "View Image" or click this link here. Sorry about that.

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Aveline mods >:|

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oh i don't get view image. stupid laptop never does anything i want!!! makes me buy a fr!gg!ng xbox to play games on... *mumblegrumble mutter*

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ipgd wrote...

Even speaking on a purely aesthetic level, there's not much about the elf or qunari redesign that really has anything in common with traditional "anime" aesthetic, besides, what, elves having heads and eyes that are marginally proportionately larger than humans (unless 'thin, doesn't have facial hair' is suddenly an anime thing)? There are many things about the facial design that are distinctly not very anime at all, the most obvious of which being the defined nose structure vs. the minimalization of all non-eye related objects in anime.

If you read the interview with the design/graphics artists what they had on mind when it comes to the elves has actually quite a lot to do with regular anime aesthetics -- believe it or not, but they think the new elf noses are "small and subtle" which is pretty much how it's typically handled in the anime. The big eyes/small mouth are the other obvious parts of the new aesthetics, and it can't be denied that the same phrase is commonly used to describe the typical anime style.

Then you have the elongated body structure with relatively large head which is also much more common in anime than in the western works which may use similar proportions but with exaggerated muscles on it and the smaller heads, obv (or at least used to be, things are getting more mixed now)

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#37894
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highcastle wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...

This comic
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by rabbitzoro had this video linked with it. That made me laugh more than it should have. I also would have accepted it if that was how Anders asked to move in with Hawke.


Okay, this is adorkable and hilarious and is just the sort of thing to pick me up from my depressed mood. The next time I play the DA2 moving in scene, I'm so going to be picturing this.

If your "depressed  mood" brings things like the last chapters of your story...I wish I had depressed moods like yours.
It was so intense, the preparation of the atmosphere and mood, the emotions...it was one of those endings that really strike your heart and for a little while they leave you in a strange suspended state of mind. 
Thanks for writing it, really, it was worth every second.

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tmp7704 wrote...
If you read the interview with the design/graphics artists what they had on mind when it comes to the elves has actually quite a lot to do with regular anime aesthetics -- believe it or not, but they think the new elf noses are "small and subtle" which is pretty much how it's typically handled in the anime. The big eyes/small mouth are the other obvious parts of the new aesthetics, and it can't be denied that the same phrase is commonly used to describe the typical anime style.

Then you have the elongated body structure with relatively large head which is also much more common in anime than in the western works which may use similar proportions but with exaggerated muscles on it and the smaller heads, obv (or at least used to be, things are getting more mixed now)


i liked zev's mouth the way it used to be. much better for doing... zevranish things  :o:devil:

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Dunizel wrote...

highcastle wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...

This comic
-image snip-
by rabbitzoro had this video linked with it. That made me laugh more than it should have. I also would have accepted it if that was how Anders asked to move in with Hawke.


Okay, this is adorkable and hilarious and is just the sort of thing to pick me up from my depressed mood. The next time I play the DA2 moving in scene, I'm so going to be picturing this.

If your "depressed  mood" brings things like the last chapters of your story...I wish I had depressed moods like yours.
It was so intense, the preparation of the atmosphere and mood, the emotions...it was one of those endings that really strike your heart and for a little while they leave you in a strange suspended state of mind. 
Thanks for writing it, really, it was worth every second.


Aww, thanks! I spent the entire morning and a lot of last night alternating between re-writing the thing and bawling my eyes out until I got it the way I wanted. And now I'm depressed it's over (which is generally the way I get when a story ends). But thankfully the reception's been pretty positive, so that's helped pick my mood up!

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So for some reason I had a sudden urge to play the Sims again, and yesterday someone posted a screenshot of an Anders sim with custom hair. Does the person who posted that know where they got it D : or does anyone else know? Because I can't find it

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Melca36 wrote...

Did it bug anybody else when Leandra is suddenly referred to as 'Mistress Amell"?

Just because Hawke is Hawke...Leandra could not be called Mistress Hawke?

I can't recall the exact example now,but there's at least one another female in DA who doesn't share last name with her husband. It could be very well optional (like it's not unusual nowadays) and she's been always an Amell.


There's Sophia Dryden that had a brother and son with her same last name. So assuming she married, she didn't change her name, and her son got her last name. Also, Silvie Dryden didn't change her name and her children got her last name, too (if she got married).

Bryce Cousland expcets even his daughter to pass on the family name, so he obviously doesn't expect her to change her name.

Revka Amell is maybe another example.

Modifié par erilben, 08 mai 2011 - 11:34 .


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erilben wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Did it bug anybody else when Leandra is suddenly referred to as 'Mistress Amell"?

Just because Hawke is Hawke...Leandra could not be called Mistress Hawke?

I can't recall the exact example now,but there's at least one another female in DA who doesn't share last name with her husband. It could be very well optional (like it's not unusual nowadays) and she's been always an Amell.


There's Sophia Dryden that had a brother and son with her same last name. So assuming she married, she didn't change her name, and her son got her last name. Also, Silvie Dryden didn't change her name and her children got her last name, too (if she got married).

Bryce Cousland expcets even his daughter to pass on the family name, so he obviously doesn't expect her to change her name.

Revka Amell is maybe another example.



Moira Theirin, too, from the Stolen Throne.

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highcastle wrote...

[Aww, thanks! I spent the entire morning and a lot of last night alternating between re-writing the thing and bawling my eyes out until I got it the way I wanted. And now I'm depressed it's over (which is generally the way I get when a story ends). But thankfully the reception's been pretty positive, so that's helped pick my mood up!


It's fantastic