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Camilladilla wrote...

I have a question of the utmost importance upon which the answer may or may not save millions-nay BILLIONS-of lives.

Do you think the carpet match the drapes?


Oh GOD no, have you seen his eyebrows?

My bet it's as black as the ace of spades

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0o-Constance-o0 wrote...

Camilladilla wrote...

I have a question of the utmost importance upon which the answer may or may not save millions-nay BILLIONS-of lives.

Do you think the carpet match the drapes?


Oh GOD no, have you seen his eyebrows?

My bet it's as black as the ace of spades


OH! teehee i just got it!   *facepalm*

ah ha i'm gonna go with yes

edit for spelling fail

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kromify wrote...

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kromify wrote...

neither of whom i'm aware of. the problem with analogies is that they're never accurate...


...That's a ridiculous overstatement.  Plenty of analogies are accurate.  There's nothing inherently inaccurate about them just because some people fail and making them properly.

Look up John Brown.  That you don't know who he is also doesn't have anything to do with whether the analogy is accurate.


don't i know it! it's just a pet peeve o' mine. and probably more suited to an english writing thread than the anders thread. although i seem to recall someone here does eng major... was that you?




in other piraty news; everyone knows who this is right?

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greg ellis!


I'm one, but I missed the original post so I can't comment. 

And damn, I miss Mr. Ellis.  Need to go talk to Cullen again.

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Camilladilla wrote...

I have a question of the utmost importance upon which the answer may or may not save millions-nay BILLIONS-of lives.

Do you think the carpet match the drapes?


Considering his facial hair, I'm voting no.

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YamiSnuffles wrote...

Camilladilla wrote...

I have a question of the utmost importance upon which the answer may or may not save millions-nay BILLIONS-of lives.

Do you think the carpet match the drapes?


Considering his facial hair, I'm voting no.


Oh... I dunno... I've met one or two "calico" men.  The beard doesn't match the hair, but the drapes may still match the carpet.

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Sialater wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...

Camilladilla wrote...

I have a question of the utmost importance upon which the answer may or may not save millions-nay BILLIONS-of lives.

Do you think the carpet match the drapes?


Considering his facial hair, I'm voting no.


Oh... I dunno... I've met one or two "calico" men.  The beard doesn't match the hair, but the drapes may still match the carpet.


Hmm, fair enough. Then I'll vote maybe.

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So it's a tentative yes, then?

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Camilladilla wrote...

I have a question of the utmost importance upon which the answer may or may not save millions-nay BILLIONS-of lives.

Do you think the carpet match the drapes?


I'm going to jump on the no train.

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Camilladilla wrote...

So it's a tentative yes, then?

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wat

what is happening here

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Camilladilla wrote...

So it's a tentative yes, then?

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Is that a rat or Fenris? >_>  Also do I want to know?

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Batteries wrote...

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So it's a tentative yes, then?

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wat

what is happening here


I really have no clue, but I laugh everytime I see that picture so it's win.

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Camilladilla wrote...

So it's a tentative yes, then?


I'd say it's whatever you want it to be. It seems there is evidence in either direction.

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The stubble and brows changed colour in between Awakening and DA2. I'm not sure why they decided to make 'em darker but given the lack of Grecian 2000 in Thedas, I believe the blond to be his natural hue.

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It's Fenris and Hawk(e) and Justice and Anders. It makes perfect sense.

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YamiSnuffles wrote...

Sialater wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...

Camilladilla wrote...

I have a question of the utmost importance upon which the answer may or may not save millions-nay BILLIONS-of lives.

Do you think the carpet match the drapes?


Considering his facial hair, I'm voting no.


Oh... I dunno... I've met one or two "calico" men.  The beard doesn't match the hair, but the drapes may still match the carpet.


Hmm, fair enough. Then I'll vote maybe.


There is... really... only one way to find out, ultimately.  :devil:

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yukidama wrote...

It's Fenris and Hawk(e) and Justice and Anders. It makes perfect sense.


I thought Fenris wasa weird rat....

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All right, I'm just going to say it:
Anders friendmance is great.
Anders rivalmance is... damm I don't even... well, wow.
Though, talk about toxic relationship... hey, actually - there can be no "Hawke + someone=happy couple!!!". So screw it all.

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I have a question, and I'm sure it was mentioned before but I'm not prone to reading 1580 pages of discussion as well as off-topic Anders Love (which I'm a big fan of, btw) just to catch up...

Did anyone read the short story about Anders? I'm sure you have. If so, then perhaps you can answer this question for me: Knowing what we know about Kristoff and Justice from Awakening and knowing that Anders is now joined with Justice, how can we feasibly think that stabbing him in the back killed Anders? While we might have destroyed the "Anders" part of Vengeance, we still left him a body to inhabit.

I know that Hawke doesnt know much better about spirits and possession (and I know what was said about Anders being really, most sincerely dead) but I just cant buy that. Vengeance was either like "Fine, whatever" and left, or he's still wearing his Anders suit. Can someone clarify this for me, or PM me with some clarification? It's always been a tad odd for me.


Word of Gaider says killing Anders in the end means he's dead. But you're right, that means nothing to Vengeance. And it would be interesting if he pulled a Kristoff and started walking around as a rotting, decaying Anders. Though I think it'd just about break the heart of any Hawke who romanced and killed him.

I think it's more likely, though, that Justice would look for another living body to inhabit. He saw the downsides of inhabiting a corpse in Awakening. Nate seemed to do a pretty good job convincing him to take a living host, I don't see him regressing just because Anders died. And since Anders wanted death, I think Justice would respect his friend's wishes enough to let him have that peace. Instead, it's time to look for Body #3.


If that's possible.  Awakening established that Justice was trapped outside the Fade, suggesting that Justice didn't have a means of simply "jumping" out of a body and re-appearing back in his original home.  From day one I've taken that to mean that even if Anders' body was killed, then Justice would then just go back to being trapped in a corpse.  

It's never been explained how Justice was able to "hop" into another body if he was somehow trapped in Kristoff, unless the conclusion to draw is that if he tried to exist a body without somewhere else to go, he'd just sort of dissipate.  That seemed to be what Anders believed: "to live outside the Fade, he needed a host." 

Then, of course, the short story would have us believe that Anders can't die thanks to his merger.  This does seem to fly in the face of the rest of DA lore--if being an abomination makes you immortal, then how were either The Warden or Hawke able to kill abominations left and right?  But as it stands, existing lore would indicate that Justice cannot simply leave Anders corpse and re-appear in the Fade.  He's stuck in Anders body until another host comes along.  Anders himself never seems to consider this, but I think it's the only reasonable conclusion.

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Iliked Anders in Awakenings but I have not had my character romance him in DA 2. I can not reconcile his actions with him as a person let alone a love interest. His behavior was to such a degree that, now, I do not like him in DA2. Is anyone else having this problem?

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Gnas wrote...

Iliked Anders in Awakenings but I have not had my character romance him in DA 2. I can not reconcile his actions with him as a person let alone a love interest. His behavior was to such a degree that, now, I do not like him in DA2. Is anyone else having this problem?


Honestly, again my opinion here.  I didn't mind him in Awakening, but I loved in DA 2.  His actions didn't bother me as much as some people (I am going off you mean the Chantry)  At first I was in complete shock.  I think more that bioware had the balls to do something and that Anders did.  Though in real life now I wouldn't condone such acts.  In a fantasy world where I get to start a revolution and maybe free some people, hopefully for the better? Oh heck yes!  I mean Anders wanted to bring change, and he did it in sadly more often then not the only way to get the ball rolling.  Also I wasn't going to be finishing this revolution without the man that started it >_> talk about lazy Hawke.

I loved romacing him and have done it many times with out issue or feeling like I am getting lied to in such a bad or aweful way, as some see it.

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Gnas wrote...

Iliked Anders in Awakenings but I have not had my character romance him in DA 2. I can not reconcile his actions with him as a person let alone a love interest. His behavior was to such a degree that, now, I do not like him in DA2. Is anyone else having this problem?


No.

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Back to the sad tranquil Anders for a moment, if you mess up with the Night Terrors quest like I did first time around, tell Feynriel that they are Demons etc, he begs you to make him tranquil. And you do. Anders might be pissy at you, but you get dialogue afterwards with Anders saying something along the lines of 'If I wasn't there I wouldn't have believed it' in a kind of wistful tone. And I wonder if it makes him think that maybe being tranquil isn't the worst thing that could happen to him, and that some mages do want it, they do want to be unburdened.
So maybe a tranquil Anders (my god it would break my heart) would not be the worse, rather that than lost to an abomination.(And by abomination I mean ugly twisty horrible thing, not cool blue glowly one).


I don't think Anders ever gets pissy at you.  If he's not present for the quest, it never comes up, and if he's there, it never comes up either.  I've played that quest six ways from Sunday because I was certain he'd have SOMETHING to say about it, but no, beyond his acknowledgement of it having been Feynriel's wish, nothing.

I don't think he sounded at all wistful, though.  Just amazed.  I doubt your interpretation is correct simply because Anders has always expressed contempt and fear for Tranquility.  Especially after what happened to Karl.  Just...wistful?  No.  Amazed that any mage would willingly ask for it, yes.  

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Gnas wrote...

Iliked Anders in Awakenings but I have not had my character romance him in DA 2. I can not reconcile his actions with him as a person let alone a love interest. His behavior was to such a degree that, now, I do not like him in DA2. Is anyone else having this problem?


I think a lot of people do. It was always a danger, given the extremity of his actions. I personally still love him as a character, but I know a lot of people can't get past what he did. 

I think it's pretty amazing that Bioware managed to evoke such strong reactions with a previously loved character.

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Silfren wrote...

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Back to the sad tranquil Anders for a moment, if you mess up with the Night Terrors quest like I did first time around, tell Feynriel that they are Demons etc, he begs you to make him tranquil. And you do. Anders might be pissy at you, but you get dialogue afterwards with Anders saying something along the lines of 'If I wasn't there I wouldn't have believed it' in a kind of wistful tone. And I wonder if it makes him think that maybe being tranquil isn't the worst thing that could happen to him, and that some mages do want it, they do want to be unburdened.
So maybe a tranquil Anders (my god it would break my heart) would not be the worse, rather that than lost to an abomination.(And by abomination I mean ugly twisty horrible thing, not cool blue glowly one).


I don't think Anders ever gets pissy at you.  If he's not present for the quest, it never comes up, and if he's there, it never comes up either.  I've played that quest six ways from Sunday because I was certain he'd have SOMETHING to say about it, but no, beyond his acknowledgement of it having been Feynriel's wish, nothing.

I don't think he sounded at all wistful, though.  Just amazed.  I doubt your interpretation is correct simply because Anders has always expressed contempt and fear for Tranquility.  Especially after what happened to Karl.  Just...wistful?  No.  Amazed that any mage would willingly ask for it, yes.  


By pissy I mean rivalry points, and by my interpretation I mean my interpretation, which is an opinion, which therefore can neither be right or wrong. We're not dealing in facts.

Amazed is an interesting choice of words. I think Anders is very blind to anything that doesn't fall into his dichotomy, so I like to bring him along to the quests that I know will have an interesting impact on his world view, and he does say some interesting bits and pieces. They don't go on to affect what he does for reasons already discussed at length, but I like to think they give him a bit more perspective.

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Gnas wrote...

Iliked Anders in Awakenings but I have not had my character romance him in DA 2. I can not reconcile his actions with him as a person let alone a love interest. His behavior was to such a degree that, now, I do not like him in DA2. Is anyone else having this problem?


No. I liked him in Awakening and I love him in DA2. He's a really interesting character and I really like the direction he was taken in this game. He's controversial, he's difficult, but I like him all the more because of that. There's a lot of depth to be explored.