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[Rinji the Bearded]

Sialater wrote...

You mean... this one?

*snip the ho yay*

By SweetCandyRain

Mmm dat Anders.  Also, mmm dat Nate. ♥

EDIT: OH MAN I'm top again.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 08 juin 2011 - 02:34 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Just came in to state my agreement with SF, that Anders actively seeking to exterminate mages is not something I see him doing. I can see him killing himself as Hawke goes to annul the Circle. But not actively do it.

Somewhat related, does anyone think that Anders, even if stabbed, is still alive? Apparently the short story had him stabbed as well and he came back to life. If so, what do you think will happen to him?

[Sialater]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Just came in to state my agreement with SF, that Anders actively seeking to exterminate mages is not something I see him doing. I can see him killing himself as Hawke goes to annul the Circle. But not actively do it.

Somewhat related, does anyone think that Anders, even if stabbed, is still alive? Apparently the short story had him stabbed as well and he came back to life. If so, what do you think will happen to him?

Justice may let Anders die, but still be stuck in the body.

Doesn't matter though... in my games, he'll always live.

[SurelyForth]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Just came in to state my agreement with SF, that Anders actively seeking to exterminate mages is not something I see him doing. I can see him killing himself as Hawke goes to annul the Circle. But not actively do it.

Somewhat related, does anyone think that Anders, even if stabbed, is still alive? Apparently the short story had him stabbed as well and he came back to life. If so, what do you think will happen to him?

Gaider has said that Anders is dead if you kill him...he wants to die at that moment and he does.

But nothing conclusive has been stated about what becomes of Justice. 

Modifié par SurelyForth, 08 juin 2011 - 02:53 .

[ipgd]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Just came in to state my agreement with SF, that Anders actively seeking to exterminate mages is not something I see him doing. I can see him killing himself as Hawke goes to annul the Circle. But not actively do it.

Somewhat related, does anyone think that Anders, even if stabbed, is still alive? Apparently the short story had him stabbed as well and he came back to life. If so, what do you think will happen to him?

Gaider confirmed that any Anders that was knifed would be staying dead. Regardless of whether it's possible, there don't seem to be any plans to bring him back.

Since the sentiment was something like "that would be lame", I don't think they'll be bringing back Justice, either.

Modifié par ipgd, 08 juin 2011 - 02:54 .

[cmessaz]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Just came in to state my agreement with SF, that Anders actively seeking to exterminate mages is not something I see him doing. I can see him killing himself as Hawke goes to annul the Circle. But not actively do it.

Somewhat related, does anyone think that Anders, even if stabbed, is still alive? Apparently the short story had him stabbed as well and he came back to life. If so, what do you think will happen to him?

Gaider pretty much guaranteed that he won't return if killed, I think. And when siding with templars, he sees it as more of reconciliation for what he's done, you can say "this is your penance" in the gallows. So I can see it to a point based on the whole rivalmance...however I also see some holes.


Edit: Ninjad

Sialater wrote...

Doesn't matter though... in my games, he'll always live.

LOL, same here.

Modifié par cmessaz, 08 juin 2011 - 02:54 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Ah I see. Good really. I like Anders and I find him to be the only redeeming thing about Act 3. But I don't want him to come back in any meaningful way. Time for new blood.

Here's to hoping that mages will have a Magneto kind of leader (and no, I absolutely reject comparing Anders to him).

EDIT: oh and I do want to see Justice again.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 08 juin 2011 - 02:58 .

[cmessaz]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Ah I see. Good really. I like Anders and I find him to be the only redeeming thing about Act 3. But I don't want him to come back in any meaningful way. Time for new blood.

Here's to hoping that mages will have a Magneto kind of leader (and no, I absolutely reject comparing Anders to him).

EDIT: oh and I do want to see Justice again.

D: Well, if my Hawke is involved Anders better be since they are lovers...or at least give a good reason why he's not.

And....you really like Act 3 Anders? Cool.

[KnightofPhoenix]

cmessaz wrote...
D: Well, if my Hawke is involved Anders better be since they are lovers...or at least give a good reason why he's not.

Now you know what it feels to be a Morrimancer

And....you really like Act 3 Anders? Cool.

As a character, yes. I also think he's an insane reckless fool. But an interesting and tragic one.

[ipgd]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I like Anders and I find him to be the only redeeming thing about Act 3.

Gosh, you just can't help yourself, can you :innocent:


I imagine Anders will have some sort of Wrex/Wreav type thing with a creepy mage cult, and martyr status if he's killed. He doesn't really have to be alive to have plot relevance in future installments, given his situation.

[cmessaz]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...
D: Well, if my Hawke is involved Anders better be since they are lovers...or at least give a good reason why he's not.

Now you know what it feels to be a Morrimancer

And....you really like Act 3 Anders? Cool.

As a character, yes. I also think he's an insane reckless fool. But an interesting and tragic one.

Well at least you got some closure with DLC. That would work for me  I just don't wanna have Hawke thrown in a new game with no explanation as to where her lover is. Sort of like GW Alistair in Awakening.

[KnightofPhoenix]

cmessaz wrote...
Well at least you got some closure with DLC. That would work for me  I just don't wanna have Hawke thrown in a new game with no explanation as to where her lover is. Sort of like GW Alistair in Awakening.

We had no closure, just more questions and little answers, and a choice that will most likely never be relevent but that's OT.

That said, I doubt there will be an Anders DLC considering how there is a 1/2 chance he is dead. Permanently.
The most you can hope for is a letter or a random NPC saying he disapeared / died. But I hope I am wrong.

[cmessaz]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...
Well at least you got some closure with DLC. That would work for me  I just don't wanna have Hawke thrown in a new game with no explanation as to where her lover is. Sort of like GW Alistair in Awakening.

We had no closure, just more questions and little answers, and a choice that will most likely never be relevent but that's OT.

That said, I doubt there will be an Anders DLC considering how there is a 1/2 chance he is dead. Permanently.
The most you can hope for is a letter or a random NPC saying he disapeared / died. But I hope I am wrong.

TBH that would work for me too. Just any explanation as to where he is would work.

[ipgd]

I'm hoping there isn't any post-game DLC. Given Bioware's, uh, less than consistent track record with DLC, I'd rather they just use it to fill in the gaps in the time skips than try to tackle any substantial post-game plot threads in a DLC. My eballs will shrivel and fall off if we get another Witch Hunt about something I'm actually interested in seeing the conclusion to. Save the big stuff for a proper sequellll

[cmessaz]

ipgd wrote...

I'm hoping there isn't any post-game DLC. Given Bioware's, uh, less than consistent track record with DLC, I'd rather they just use it to fill in the gaps in the time skips than try to tackle any substantial post-game plot threads in a DLC. My eballs will shrivel and fall off if we get another Witch Hunt about something I'm actually interested in seeing the conclusion to. Save the big stuff for a proper sequellll

Yeah, agreed. As much as I like DA2...I don't have much confidence in them for DLC from Origins. Hopefully they do it right this time

[Reflection Muse]

ipgd wrote...

I'm hoping there isn't any post-game DLC. Given Bioware's, uh, less than consistent track record with DLC, I'd rather they just use it to fill in the gaps in the time skips than try to tackle any substantial post-game plot threads in a DLC. My eballs will shrivel and fall off if we get another Witch Hunt about something I'm actually interested in seeing the conclusion to. Save the big stuff for a proper sequellll

I'd really like that, actually. The way those missing years were glossed over, with no real indication of what the heck you or your companions were doing on a day-to-day basis, was a little jarring.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

EDIT: oh and I do want to see Justice again.

I am very curious as to what will become of Justice. Is he going to go back to the Fade if he's successful in granting the mages freedom? Or is he going to keep coming back trying to right every injustice he sees, like the treatment of the city elves and the casteless? Lots of potential there, I think.

Or will he become a demon?

I admit, most of my fascination with Anders is DA2 is Justice related. I wonder if say someone like Flemeth can manipulate Justice into going on a rampage in the real world.

[ipgd]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Or will he become a demon?

That depends on what a demon is.

The whole dichotomy between spirits and demons is left pretty ambiguous. Rival!Anders, at least, seems to think Justice already is one.

[KnightofPhoenix]

ipgd wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Or will he become a demon?

That depends on what a demon is.

The whole dichotomy between spirits and demons is left pretty ambiguous. Rival!Anders, at least, seems to think Justice already is one.

Indeed, but I am not sure Vengeance falls into the "traditional" demon categories.

@ Elle
Yes, and I do nto think Anders is nearly strong enough to control him.

[ipgd]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Indeed, but I am not sure Vengeance falls into the "traditional" demon categories.

Yeah, but are those "traditional" demon categories substantial, or are they arbitrary divisions made by mortals who don't really understand the nature of spirits and the Fade? It's a question that's raised in the games but never definitively answered.

[Rinji the Bearded]

It's my impression that no one really knows the natures of demons and spirits, even the demons and spirits themselves.