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KnightofPhoenix wrote...
He still did not want war and he thought the Libertarians were idiots to want to secede. He wanted freedom for himself only, and rejected outright secession.
Correct. He was selfish. He admits this in DA2. He didn't want to risk himself to save others.
What Justice did was get corrupted by his anger and hatred, become Vengeance, and then proceed to control Anders.
Maybe on the rivalry path. On the friendship path, their goals are aligned and there is no controlling Anders outside of extreme emotional disturbances (Tranquility and Justice quests). People want to demonize Justice and give him sole blame, but even in the rivalry path, Anders is the one who ultimately plants the bomb. He's the one who does this, not Justice. (How do I know? Because he remembers this and when Justice assumes control, he normally black outs. Ergo, Anders was the one who planted the bomb).
Semantics. Whatever you want to call it. Insanity, madness, whatever. He was not mentally well and was not himself. One could argue that he can't be held accountable, but rather it's vengeance, especially if rivalled, who did this but I am not interested in getting into that.
I do not deem him mentally healthy and sober enough to be qualified to speak and act in the way he did.
Not semantics. You're throwing around words you don't really know the meaning of. When it comes to judging someone mentally ill, you need to look at basic things like: can they feed themselves? Clothe themselves? Do they understand the consequences of their actions? Do they know right from wrong? Anders meets all these criteria. He is not insane.
Mental health is a tricky subject, but don't wade into it if you're not prepared to fully examine all things. Was Anders mentally ill in some way? Possibly. That's a tricky question, though. He's very likely affected by more than just Justice, however. He spent a year in solitary confinement. Do you study criminology? I do. I've spoken with/interviewed people who have spent a long time in what is now referred to as solitary segregation. A few people go into it and keep a handle on themselves. Most, though, find any problems they had on the outside are amplified by their time in isolation.
Anders in DAA was remarkably flippant and peppy for coming out of a place like that. However, on speaking to him, it becomes clear he uses humor as a coping mechanism to avoid thinking or feeling too much about everything he's suffered. But the damage was done to him long before Justice. Likely Justice just allowed him to consider everything done to him rather than ignore it. And in light of that consideration, Anders chose to act.
As to whether he
should have been the one acting...well, who else was going to do it? Sometimes you need people who think in other ways to kickstart something as big as this. I think you could make a case for Anders being the Nietzchean ideal of a "superman." In this case, he'd be the
perfect person to remake the world
because he doesn't think as everyone else does.
Not always, and I wish I remember where Gaider's posts about this were.
And I could say the same thing. Not always. Not all Tranquil choose it. I read Gaider's posts where he talked about the Tranquil and refuted the ideal of them being souless. But what we see in the game is horrifying enough. And forcing mages to be made Tranquil is not kosher. It's flat out
not.
I don't really care about "right". I care about more concrete things and factors.
I never argued that Anders has a right cause or not, I couldn't care less. What I am arguing is that he is not mentally well enough to be qualified to do anything, and whose methods I reject based on prudence and pragmatism.
The likes of him are either to be interned and helped though I doubt facilities exist to help people of his condition. Or manipulated if they are useful. Or killed if they are not.
Okay Spock, not everything boils down to things and factors. We live in a world of abstracts, in a world of free will and everything that entails. Life is not a math problem. There is no algorithm for freedom. You don't think Anders is mentally stable? Fine, that's your interpretation. But that's a key word. Interpretation. There are no concrete answers in this game. You cannot find the one truth. Allow me to introduce you to basic post-modernism: there is no one truth.
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