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[Reflection Muse]

DreamerM wrote...
She's Wynne. She's like a mage Chuck Norris.

This makes me want a Wynne + Spirit of Faith vs. Flemeth and her badass self face-off so badly.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

SurelyForth wrote...

In Ferelden, I was under the impression that it was a reward for good behavior and/or a desirable skillset. Wynne could, seemingly, come and go pretty much as she pleased, and then Wilhelm was allowed on his expeditions because of his connections to the Guerrins and his role in the rebellion. Oh! And Ines the botanist, too...which I'd attribute to being a scholar in her field. So maybe increased autonomy for mages is a bit like getting tenure?

But, that aside, it's probably up to the discretion of the Knight-Commander and the Grand Cleric above each Circle. Orsino seemed to have some autonomy, and was able to bring mages out with him to fight the qunari, so it's possible Meredith allows something like that to go on in the Gallows, although I imagine it's much more restrictive.

I don't think it can be quite as simple as "good behavior," though a lifetime of exceptional service will probably get you more leeway once you're older. I would guess that, at minimum, the requirements are something like a perfect apprentice record and then ten to twenty years of good behavior after your Harrowing. Something strict that sounds reasonable on the surface and accounts for Wynne and Wilhelm, but also for Anders' despair. It's also pretty clear that Wynne wasn't always allowed to walk around loose, or odds are she might have tried to leave when she found she was pregnant, and all signs point to that having been impossible at the time.

Then again, I'm also guessing that Anders probably acted out a bit when he was young, and was basically told at some point "congratulations, you've pretty much screwed yourself out of any chance of getting a posting outside the tower at this point." Because if it was as simple as good behavior for a few years and he knew that ahead of time, I don't think Anders would have been so rash as to deliberately cost himself that chance. I'm guessing that it's another area where the rules are very sketchily defined and inconsistently enforced: a decade of complete obedience might gain you some measure of freedom, but it might not. You can't just say "Ok, I'll bear with this for ten years and then it's off to the races for me," you pretty much have to be either influential like Wilhelm or significantly older like Wynne and Ines. I don't think Anders would have dealt very well with "a lot of mages get posts outside the tower in their 40s or after! don't give up hope."

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 15 juin 2011 - 06:17 .

[kromify]

DreamerM wrote...

kromify wrote...

but wynne waltzes off to tevinter! they must really be up her ass if they allow a mage to go to the land of the black divine!

She's Wynne. She's like a mage Chuck Norris.

great. i don't like chuck norris

[Amondra]

Reflection Muse wrote...

DreamerM wrote...
She's Wynne. She's like a mage Chuck Norris.

This makes me want a Wynne + Spirit of Faith vs. Flemeth and her badass self face-off so badly.

If it wasn't for Wynne I would have got one shoted by Flemeth when I faced-off against her in the game

[kromify]

Amondra wrote...

Reflection Muse wrote...

DreamerM wrote...
She's Wynne. She's like a mage Chuck Norris.

This makes me want a Wynne + Spirit of Faith vs. Flemeth and her badass self face-off so badly.

If it wasn't for Wynne I would have got one shoted by Flemeth when I faced-off against her in the game

if it wasn't for wynne causing a paralysis explosion i wouldn't have become an archdemon's kebab. then my save files were damaged.

[pagerunner]

Pardon me while I drop in with a shameless plug, but since it's a quiet week on LiveJournal, why not: I posted a new Anders/f!Hawke fic called Bedtime Stories over thisaway. It's rated M, so be forewarned. (Not that anyone on this thread is liable to be particularly concerned about that, though, I suspect.

[SurelyForth]

Wynne has Haste, which is why she doesn't get killed off in my games and why she's almost always in combat parties.

I really wish we could have recruited Anders in Origins.

Also...page 1800! Woohoo! It needs more Anders...


by Payroo (the last time I'll post it, I swear)

Modifié par SurelyForth, 15 juin 2011 - 06:34 .

[CulturalGeekGirl]

Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...

Maker's pierced nipple, you guys. This is, like, the 1800 page anniversary. This must be celebrated.

Picspam? Cake? Scotch? I'm all for it.

I've been saving my best DA2 song for just such an occasion. It's not much, but even in the saddest versions of Anders' story, it gives comfort.

The Times They Are A Changin'

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who that it's namin'.
'Cause the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 15 juin 2011 - 06:35 .

[ipgd]

SurelyForth wrote...

Wynne has Haste, which is why she doesn't get killed off in my games and why she's almost always in combat parties.

I sure like how DAO haste modifiers were bugged and would *reduce* your attack speed if you had too many stacked up, FLAWLESS AND BUG FREE GAME DEATH TO DA2

Haste + Locust form was nice for running around though olololol

[beckaliz]

kromify wrote...

but wynne waltzes off to tevinter! they must really be up her ass if they allow a mage to go to the land of the black divine!

Wait a minute... when does Wynn go to Tevinter?  Wow I must really have not paid enough attention.

SurelyForth wrote...

I really wish we could have recruited Anders in Origins.

I agree. It would have been nice to have at least one character that spanned from more than just the expansion.

[Toastyblue2]

pagerunner wrote...

Pardon me while I drop in with a shameless plug, but since it's a quiet week on LiveJournal, why not: I posted a new Anders/f!Hawke fic called Bedtime Stories over thisaway. It's rated M, so be forewarned. (Not that anyone on this thread is liable to be particularly concerned about that, though, I suspect.

Ah, I read it last night but I didn't revew it. I don't want to spoil it for anyone else, but I did very much like how you presented the sexytimes. I hadn't thought of magic causing -that- kind of reaction before. Great bit of f!Hawke/Anders! *recommends*

[Ryzaki]

SurelyForth wrote...

Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Well I always loved hardened Leliana so the new one makes me squee.

I might set her up with my HN now.

Which is quite alright. Different strokes for different people and all that jargin'

XD 

Ryzaki wrote...

Well I always loved hardened Leliana so the new one makes me squee.

I might set her up with my HN now.

I love hardened Leliana, too, which is why her appearance in DA2 annoys me. 

And I feel sorta bad for poor Lucille Amell, who is a pro-mage Andrastian who worships Leliana. She must be getting so many mixed signals...

Yeah she was supposed to be helping the Wardens wasn't she.  I got a little concerned she might end up a broodmother. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 15 juin 2011 - 06:46 .

[Reflection Muse]

Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...

Maker's pierced nipple, you guys. This is, like, the 1800 page anniversary. This must be celebrated.

Picspam? Cake? Scotch? I'm all for it.

Woo, picspam! I absolutely approve or more Anders picspam. This one is probably well known, but it's still one of my favorites:



By the lovely and talented Mila-Valentine.

[highcastle]

Surely's right: 1800 calls for more Anders. (And I'll just shamelessly pimp out Noah, too, while I'm here.)

By AerdrieDarkmoon


By Yami


Unlike Surely, I can't promise this is the last time I'll post these.

[pagerunner]

Toastyblue2 wrote...

pagerunner wrote...

Pardon me while I drop in with a shameless plug, but since it's a quiet week on LiveJournal, why not: I posted a new Anders/f!Hawke fic called Bedtime Stories over thisaway. It's rated M, so be forewarned. (Not that anyone on this thread is liable to be particularly concerned about that, though, I suspect.

Ah, I read it last night but I didn't revew it. I don't want to spoil it for anyone else, but I did very much like how you presented the sexytimes. I hadn't thought of magic causing -that- kind of reaction before. Great bit of f!Hawke/Anders! *recommends*

thanks.  Had to write SOMETHING to entertain myself while continuing to wait on the damn Mac 1.03 patch.... sigh. 

[beckaliz]

Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...

beckaliz wrote...

kromify wrote...

but wynne waltzes off to tevinter! they must really be up her ass if they allow a mage to go to the land of the black divine!

Wait a minute... when does Wynn go to Tevinter?  Wow I must really have not paid enough attention.

Wynne goes to Tevinter to help Shale. Yes, my eyebrows were raised too.

Ohhh, I see! I did not download Shale, so I would not know this. And TBH I don't really care to. Not that I think I'd dislike her (it's a her right??), I'm just not interested.

[SurelyForth]

ipgd wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

Wynne has Haste, which is why she doesn't get killed off in my games and why she's almost always in combat parties.

I sure like how DAO haste modifiers were bugged and would *reduce* your attack speed if you had too many stacked up, FLAWLESS AND BUG FREE GAME DEATH TO DA2

Haste + Locust form was nice for running around though olololol

That's why I played DW Warriors...Haste + Momentum + Precise Striking meant that they could be faster than rogues because of PS's penalty to attack speed. 

Things became iffy in Awakening, since some Spirit Warrior specs also increased attack speed and I could never figure out if Anders having Haste in battle was a good thing or a bad thing. Whatever, it got us around faster, so IDC.

[beckaliz]

Here's something in the case for nice Templars... I'm in Act 3 right now (like literally right now) and here's from the letter from Ella...

"It's not the kindest thing to say, but nobody misses Ser Alrik. Not even the other templars. I know it's hard to imagine, but they don't want to fight. They want things to be normal: no Harrowings, no Tranquil, no one dying. But none of us are getting that wish now."

[kromify]

beckaliz wrote...

Here's something in the case for nice Templars... I'm in Act 3 right now (like literally right now) and here's from the letter from Ella...

"It's not the kindest thing to say, but nobody misses Ser Alrik. Not even the other templars. I know it's hard to imagine, but they don't want to fight. They want things to be normal: no Harrowings, no Tranquil, no one dying. But none of us are getting that wish now."

i never get that. i always tell her to scarper

[LT123]

Even single one of my Wardens took the "GRIFFONS GRIFFONS GRIFFONS" route during that conversation with Wynne. They probably got Alistair in on it too.

And I thought this was a nice moment in Act III. Apostate buddies, still free from the Circle and not doing blood magic unlike every other mage in this horrible city. Yay!



Just walked by a mage (probably was a Tranquil) who's like "Why is everyone so angry? That'd all be better off if Ser Alrik was still alive." <_< I'd forgotten about that letter from Ella.