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The tragedy of Anders denying his own desires (for what are actually legitimate reasons) is the thing that gets to me too, with Awakenings or without. This is in large part because he is the only fictional character I can immediately think of who refuses romantic connection he legitimately wants.... for an actual sane and reasonable reason. Unless Hawke is so in love with Anders that she can't even consider being with someone else, it's better for Hawke to choose someone else... anyone else. Unlike most characters who pull out the whole "it's not safe to be around me, I'll kill you or break your heart." spiel, Anders actually has a decent chance of doing either. A pretty damn high chance, really.

That's why one of the most interesting ideas for me is nonromanced Anders. I haunt the Fenris thread too, and I hear all the people there talking about their Hawke hating Anders, or about doing the one night stand with Fenris, kissing Anders, and then not being able to go through with it because Anders calls Fenris a beast when he shows up that night.

When someone talks about picking Fenris or being scared off by Anders, I sometimes think "but Anders still loves that Hawke. And he's probably partially glad she picked someone else, even if it's tearing him up inside. Because three years from now, when he knows what he has to do, he won't be breaking Hawke's heart in order to do it." 

That's why I have to create a canon "happy ending" for any nonromanced Anders. Because seven years of steadily denying yourself more and more of the things that make you happy, until you are a miserable shell of a human devoted to a single purpose... that is the saddest thing I have ever heard.


Ah, bloody hell, now I have to talk about my canon Hawkette which I hate doing on forums. Posted Image If reading about other people's Hawke's bores you to tears, please look away now.

The way I play her is that she takes his warnings seriously, he says it's a bad idea, so she listens to him. He reminds her a LOT of her Dad, who she adored, so trusts his judgement. Then Beth dies, then the thing with Fenris happens, then Leandra dies, and Fenris is about as comforting as a slap for the type of Hawke she is (It's my fault etc). The whole time Anders is the one person that's there, that cares, so she ends up needing him as much as he needs her.
It's more about that desperate all consuming 'must' rather than fluffy flirty love for me. I love delicious twistiness, and a Hawke that will deal with just about anything because they can't live without Anders hits all my buttons.  

Non-romanced Anders hurts my little heart too, it's so painfully sad. Especially if Hawke moved on rather than never returned his feelings. How can you ignore someone that loves you that much? Posted Image

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Modifié par ElleMullineux, 17 juin 2011 - 02:39 .


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On a less morbidly depressing note, I was trying to sleep and thinking about the whole Justice/Anders Janders thing, and how one of my Hawkes absolutely would not let that go. Namely, my Rivalmance vaguely ooc Troll Hawke.

So here, without further ado, is the conversation that Crow Hawke and Anders had in my head.

Sometime in Act 2

"Can I talk to Justice? Or Vengeance? Whoever that guy is."
"I told you, we are one."
"Really? Because the fact that sometimes you turn blue and your voice gets all weird kind of contradicts that premise."
"That... that's hard to explain."
"It doesn't seem that hard to explain to me. Sometimes you glow and talk all boom-y. That's Vengeance. I'd like to talk to that guy. So can you just... you know?"
"What? No!"
"Why not?"
"I'm spending every ounce of my control trying not to do that! If I lose myself..."
"What? You kill a few people? I killed twenty people yesterday just walking to the Hanged man from Hightown. And it's not like there's anybody around."
"You don't understand what you're asking."
"I think I do understand it, and you're just not willing to try it for some bizarre reason you won't sufficiently explain. To me. Your best friend."
"I..."
"Your. Best. Friend."
"I should go." 

* * * * *
Later, at the Gallows in Act 3

"Are you sure you can't just go blue on purpose and rip some throats out? Because that would really help me out here."
"Hawke, you've just spent the last three years telling me not to lose myself to Vengeance."
"But if you do it on purpose, it's totally not losing yourself. If you're an abomination you might as well use the perks, and when you're that guy you're a total badass in combat. I sided with your stupid mages, now make with the pretty-much-invincible guy!"
"What about that whole 'mages are dangerous' thing?"
"Well yeah, but you're dangerous on my side. That's fine. The second you turn on me though, kerslice!"
"Sometimes I really don't understand why I fell for you."
"Maybe because I'm the only one who puts up with your contradictory whining?"
"That's... probably it."

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 17 juin 2011 - 11:22 .


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@CGG: If that dialogue were in the game, I might actually consider playing a rivalrymance!

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My proposed solution to make Anders a happier spirit-possessed rebel mage, at the very least:

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The puuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrfect solution. Posted Image

Did you see what I did there? Posted Image

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it's the cats pyjamas

Modifié par kromify, 17 juin 2011 - 01:23 .


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CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

On a less morbidly depressing note, I was trying to sleep and thinking about the whole Justice/Anders Janders thing, and how one of my Hawkes absolutely would not let that go. Namely, my Rivalmance vaguely ooc Troll Hawke.

So here, without further ado, is the conversation that Crow Hawke and Anders had in my head.

Sometime in Act 2

"Can I talk to Justice? Or Vengeance? Whoever that guy is."
"I told you, we are one."
"Really? Because the fact that sometimes you turn blue and your voice gets all weird kind of contradicts that premise."
"That... that's hard to explain."
"It doesn't seem that hard to explain to me. Sometimes you glow and talk all boom-y. That's Vengeance. I'd like to talk to that guy. So can you just... you know?"
"What? No!"
"Why not?"
"I'm spending every ounce of my control trying not to do that! If I lose myself..."
"What? You kill a few people? I killed twenty people yesterday just walking to the Hanged man from Hightown. And it's not like there's anybody around."
"You don't understand what you're asking."
"I think I do understand it, and you're just not willing to try it for some bizarre reason you won't sufficiently explain. To me. Your best friend."
"I..."
"Your. Best. Friend."
"I should go." 

* * * * *
Later, at the Gallows in Act 3

"Are you sure you can't just go blue on purpose and rip some throats out? Because that would really help me out here."
"Hawke, you've just spent the last three years telling me not to lose myself to Vengeance."
"But if you do it on purpose, it's totally not losing yourself. If you're an abomination you might as well use the perks, and when you're that guy you're a total badass in combat. I sided with your stupid mages, now make with the pretty-much-invincible guy!"
"What about that whole 'mages are dangerous' thing?"
"Well yeah, but you're dangerous on my side. That's fine. The second you turn on me though, kerslice!"
"Sometimes I really don't understand why I fell for you."
"Maybe because I'm the only one who puts up with your contradictory whining?"
"That's... probably it."



Lol, this is so awesome. Posted ImagePoor Anders, haha.

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As I've said before, I would pay good money (ok semi good money, I'm not made of the stuff) for DLC that allows me to give Anders a kitten. Though, I suppose if it were pre-endgame DLC and it didn't prevent the Chantry boom, it would blow (heh) all of our theories that 'kittens solve all problems' out of the water.

Modifié par Mekarah, 17 juin 2011 - 02:21 .


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Mekarah wrote...

As I've said before, I would pay good money (ok semi good money, I'm not made of the stuff) for DLC that allows me to give Anders a kitten. Though, I suppose if it were pre-endgame DLC and it didn't prevent the Chantry boom, it would blow (heh) all of our theories that 'kittens solve all problems' out of the water.


Unless Good Ser Mewf wanders off near the beginning of Act 3. Anders assumes the templars took him and he blows up the Chantry to avenge his kitty.

Then, after Hawke has spared him, Mewf shows up and Anders cuddles him forever.

Which means that Hawke spends the boat trip to the Gallows picking fur off of Anders' black robes, but he's happy so it's totally worth it. Theoretically, at least.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 17 juin 2011 - 02:38 .


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I know this has probably been suggested dozens of times, but I think this song fits Anders relationship with the Chantry, nearly perfectly.  Aptly named, too.:P



"Justice"

I want justice I want you overthrown
I want justice
I want to stand alone

So take all you can from an open hand
The hope of the dying
To save your disease
You're an empty breed
Your love of this lifetime

So you're somebody who brags about their innocence
While playing on the ignorant storm
Now I'm just here to criticize the lies, the lies, the lies

I want justice I want you overthrown

I want courage I want to stand alone
I want your arrogance and I want your pain
I want your everything and I want your head

So cry if you feel
That the tears you shed will make you feel better
See I'm just critical of living like a criminal
While you become a royalty hiding
I wonder how you'll justify the lies, the lies, the lies

I want justice I want you overthrown
I want courage I want to stand alone
I want your arrogance and I want your pain
I want your everything and I want your head

So bury all the evidence
Disguise yourself plead innocent
One penalty, one consequence is sure
Your jury they will recognize the lies, the lies, the lies, the lies

I want justice I want you overthrown
I want courage
I want to stand alone
I want your arrogance and I want your pain
I want your everything and I want your head

I want justice I want you overthrown
I want courage I want to stand alone
I want your arrogance and I want your pain
I want your everything and I want you dead

I want justice I want justice
Give me justice and I want you dead

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SurelyForth wrote...

Mekarah wrote...

As I've said before, I would pay good money (ok semi good money, I'm not made of the stuff) for DLC that allows me to give Anders a kitten. Though, I suppose if it were pre-endgame DLC and it didn't prevent the Chantry boom, it would blow (heh) all of our theories that 'kittens solve all problems' out of the water.


Unless Good Ser Mewf wanders off near the beginning of Act 3. Anders assumes the templars took him and he blows up the Chantry to avenge his kitty.

Then, after Hawke has spared him, Mewf shows up and Anders cuddles him forever.

Which means that Hawke spends the boat trip to the Gallows picking fur off of Anders' black robes, but he's happy so it's totally worth it. Theoretically, at least.


First of all, Ser Mewf is the bestest name (aside from Ser Pounce, of course). Secondly, a cat would just love Anders' revolution robes. All those big shiny feathers to play with.

I fully support this theory as DLC.

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SurelyForth wrote...

Mekarah wrote...

As I've said before, I would pay good money (ok semi good money, I'm not made of the stuff) for DLC that allows me to give Anders a kitten. Though, I suppose if it were pre-endgame DLC and it didn't prevent the Chantry boom, it would blow (heh) all of our theories that 'kittens solve all problems' out of the water.


Unless Good Ser Mewf wanders off near the beginning of Act 3. Anders assumes the templars took him and he blows up the Chantry to avenge his kitty.

Then, after Hawke has spared him, Mewf shows up and Anders cuddles him forever.

Which means that Hawke spends the boat trip to the Gallows picking fur off of Anders' black robes, but he's happy so it's totally worth it. Theoretically, at least.


Absolutely brilliant. And HAH, it can be a whole side quest to find the gift "Lint Roller" for Anders so he can keep his prettiest terrorist robes looking fresh.

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One of my favorite DA2 / Anders&Hawke video creators (xeriana11) on YouTube recently updated her channel with a new video. I just got the update notification, so I wanted to share. It's so beautiful.

Tears

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YamiSnuffles wrote...

Secondly, a cat would just love Anders' revolution robes. All those big shiny feathers to play with.


win

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Speaking of A Kitty For Anders, Adam Howden just tweeted a pic that I can only assume is the REAL Sir Pounce-A-Lot, resting up in his pack between bouts of Templar killing. Pardon me while I go into a cuteness coma.

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DreamerM wrote...

Speaking of A Kitty For Anders, Adam Howden just tweeted a pic that I can only assume is the REAL Sir Pounce-A-Lot, resting up in his pack between bouts of Templar killing. Pardon me while I go into a cuteness coma.


Awwwww. :wub: My heart is melting. I am this close to developing a crush on that man.

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Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...

DreamerM wrote...

Speaking of A Kitty For Anders, Adam Howden just tweeted a pic that I can only assume is the REAL Sir Pounce-A-Lot, resting up in his pack between bouts of Templar killing. Pardon me while I go into a cuteness coma.


Awwwww. :wub: My heart is melting. I am this close to developing a crush on that man.


I don't think anyone here would stop you . . . and it's slightly more sane than developing a crush on a group of pixels and coding :P

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I don't think anyone here would stop you . . . and it's slightly more sane than developing a crush on a group of pixels and coding :P


Adam Howden gets close, but no cigar. For me to develop a crush on someone, they HAVE to wear a Princess Leia slave costume and a beer hat while juggling flaming teddybears and matching dirty limericks to "Hey Macarena". No exceptions.

... Which means that my love life has been rather lacking so far BUT I WILL FIND MY SOULMATE ONE DAY I JUST KNOW IT.

B'sides, if this isn't a sanctuary for the slightly less than sane, I don't know what is :P

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Hello everyone! good Afternoon!

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Amondra wrote...

Hello everyone! good Afternoon!


Hi hi, Amondra! :happy: Happy Friday!

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Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...

Evilnor wrote...



I don't think anyone here would stop you . . . and it's slightly more sane than developing a crush on a group of pixels and coding :P


Adam Howden gets close, but no cigar. For me to develop a crush on someone, they HAVE to wear a Princess Leia slave costume and a beer hat while juggling flaming teddybears and matching dirty limericks to "Hey Macarena". No exceptions.

... Which means that my love life has been rather lacking so far BUT I WILL FIND MY SOULMATE ONE DAY I JUST KNOW IT.

B'sides, if this isn't a sanctuary for the slightly less than sane, I don't know what is :P


...Now I have the Macarena stuck in my head. I...I can't decide if it's better than "Friday", which I've had stuck in my head all day up until now.

Great, now it's some sort of horrible Friday/Macarena remix in my head. To the Void with all of you! :pinched:

To make this on topic, pretty art by thesilver, i believe~

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Mekarah wrote...

...Now I have the Macarena stuck in my head. I...I can't decide if it's better than "Friday", which I've had stuck in my head all day up until now.

Great, now it's some sort of horrible Friday/Macarena remix in my head. To the Void with all of you! :pinched:

Try this one.

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ipgd wrote...

Mekarah wrote...

...Now I have the Macarena stuck in my head. I...I can't decide if it's better than "Friday", which I've had stuck in my head all day up until now.

Great, now it's some sort of horrible Friday/Macarena remix in my head. To the Void with all of you! :pinched:

Try this one.


...What did I ever do to you? :crying:

Personally, I like this one.

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Reflection Muse wrote...

Amondra wrote...

Hello everyone! good Afternoon!


Hi hi, Amondra! :happy: Happy Friday!


Yay for Friday indeed.  So is everything rainbows and kittens right now on the thread?

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Great, now it's some sort of horrible Friday/Macarena remix in my head. To the Void with all of you! :pinched:


YOU'RE WELCOME.

Also, really, really pretty art by thesilver and I will forever envy the people who know how to use Photoshop and why won't you love me Photoshop we could have had something beautiful then you had to go and be a total jackhole.

ipgd wrote...

Try this one.


You're killing me.

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