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[beckaliz]

HAHAHAHA Howden retweeted this picture yesterday.



Edit: And, OMG srsly, what an AWESOME accidental top...

Modifié par beckaliz, 23 juin 2011 - 02:52 .

[SurelyForth]

See, I think Anders likes cats but isn't craaaaazy about cats. If he were that chick levels of into cats, his clinic would be full of all the ones he'd saved from the refugees.

[ReiSilver]

SurelyForth wrote...

See, I think Anders likes cats but isn't craaaaazy about cats. If he were that chick levels of into cats, his clinic would be full of all the ones he'd saved from the refugees.

imagine if more areas of DA2 changed over time?

Act1: normal clinic

Act2: Anders gets 1 cat

Act3: CATS EVERYWHERE

(I really wished we could see more of a passage of time in the city, when I heard talk about how the whole game would take plae in one city I thought we'd get to see it grow/evolve over the years... or at least have an act that occured during a winter or something)

[Mekarah]

SurelyForth wrote...

See, I think Anders likes cats but isn't craaaaazy about cats. If he were that chick levels of into cats, his clinic would be full of all the ones he'd saved from the refugees.

Well, with all of that Justice fervor, who knows if he doesn't just sit in his clinic, crying about the injustice of all the kittens who don't have homes and/or are being eaten by refugees! I mean, he puts out milk, he's trying, they're all just...well, indisposed already

(FWIW I agree with you, ha, but the above images are too funny to ignore)

ETA:
 

ReiSilver wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

See, I think Anders likes cats but isn't craaaaazy about cats. If he were that chick levels of into cats, his clinic would be full of all the ones he'd saved from the refugees.

imagine if more areas of DA2 changed over time?

Act1: normal clinic

Act2: Anders gets 1 cat

Act3: CATS EVERYWHERE

(I
really wished we could see more of a passage of time in the city, when I
heard talk about how the whole game would take plae in one city I
thought we'd get to see it grow/evolve over the years... or at least
have an act that occured during a winter or something)

HA.

And it...sort of changes. Lowtown definitely gets some new arch things and banners. And the docks gets a statue! But yeah, I know what you mean. It would have been awesome to see seasons!

Modifié par Mekarah, 23 juin 2011 - 02:57 .

[ashyraine]

beckaliz wrote...

Mekarah wrote...

Okay this may have been posted before but my friend just reminded me of it...and now I keep picturing Anders saying all of this.

He just wants to hug all of the cats, damnit.

........     

W.T.F.

Ok I'm gonna spend the next ten minutes trying to catch my breath, I'm laughing so hard. I picture Anders with ME2-style shiny-eye tears while saying this.

Bahaha! Why haven't I seen this before?! This girl and Anders might be the real OTP

[schnln01]

Dunizel wrote...

Furtled wrote...

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...
Does anyone know what causes the "love" bugs? I've had both Alistair and Zev bug out on me in imports. I don't mind Zev so much, because honestly I don't expect to keep him leashed, but Ali breaks the heart.

My Brosca just got more into the wahoo! no one's spitting on me! thing as it went along - and not sure what causes the bugs, iirc they said they'd fixed the Zevran ones in the latest patch, not sure about the Alistair related one. I hope for the devs sake there's nothing similar in the DLC if Anders is involved or we may see virtual pitchforks.

Zevran has been fixed? Really? Because last time I read the patch thread they said the issue started with the import in Awakenings, so it wasn't likely to get fixed. I tried after 1.03 to do Zev quest (not on a new playthrough though) and nothing changed. If you assure me is has beeen fixed...I might start a new game just for that. The codex entry is so worth it (it is the same codes entry even if Zev thinks the warden is dead, I saw it with the mod, but it is just sad >.>).

No, it hasn't been fixed. And it isn't Awakenings' fault because the bug happens even on base game only files. I've run two new games since patch and neither Zevran or Alistair seemed aware of any romance at all. Only Leliana has given me the appropiate romance line thus far. 

Edit: And that was on an US Warden that I imported in to Awakenings anyway. So Leliana remembered loving that Warden and I got to do Nate's quest even though technically my Warden was dead and shouldn't have been able to recruit him. XD

But on topic, was anyone else extra sad and guilty over the nonromanced rival ending for Anders? When it came time for the knife he was eager to die and become the rallying cry for mages but then Varric says I became the rallying cry instead?  

Modifié par schnln01, 23 juin 2011 - 03:18 .

[beckaliz]

I noticed the statue, but I didn't notice the banners and other things. I'll have to pay more attention next time.

Modifié par beckaliz, 23 juin 2011 - 03:16 .

[beckaliz]

schnln01 wrote...

But on topic, was anyone else extra sad and guilty over the nonromanced rival ending for Anders? When it came time for the knife he was eager to die and become the rallying cry for mages but then Varric says I became the rallying cry instead?  

Yes, I noticed that. I was very sad. "I will be a martyr gaiz srsly ;n;".

Tissa Hawke was absolutely cruel to the man. ._. It was backlash from my personal "WTF ANDERS!!!" moment during my virgin PT. It still made me sad. But she sided with the Templars, so Varric didn't credit her with that.

Modifié par beckaliz, 23 juin 2011 - 03:21 .

[schnln01]

beckaliz wrote...

schnln01 wrote...

But on topic, was anyone else extra sad and guilty over the nonromanced rival ending for Anders? When it came time for the knife he was eager to die and become the rallying cry for mages but then Varric says I became the rallying cry instead?  

Yes, I noticed that. I was very sad. "I will be a martyr gaiz srsly ;n;".

Tissa Hawke was absolutely cruel to the man. ._. It was backlash from my personal "WTF ANDERS!!!" moment during my virgin PT. It still made me sad. But she sided with the Templars, so Varric didn't credit her with that.

I sided with the Templars too, but Varric still says its my name they are crying as they realize how far Templars will go and that they can be defied. Not sure if thats a bug or its intentional, since I sided with Meredith the entire game until Cullen voiced his objections and then I agreed with him instead.

[Evilnor]

No matter which side you go with, Hawke is the one they talk about. I seriously wouldn't be surprised if the people thought mage-siding Hawke set the bomb and didn't even know about Anders. Hawke's the Champion, after all, so everyone knows him already. It's easier to ascribe something to a name you know rather than having to learn a new one, after all. That poor Anders doesn't get any recognition . . .

[beckaliz]

schnln01 wrote...

beckaliz wrote...
Yes, I noticed that. I was very sad. "I will be a martyr gaiz srsly ;n;".

Tissa Hawke was absolutely cruel to the man. ._. It was backlash from my personal "WTF ANDERS!!!" moment during my virgin PT. It still made me sad. But she sided with the Templars, so Varric didn't credit her with that.

I sided with the Templars too, but Varric still says its my name they are crying as they realize how far Templars will go and that they can be defied. Not sure if thats a bug or its intentional, since I sided with Meredith the entire game until Cullen voiced his objections and then I agreed with him instead.

Hmm, could be. Cullen doesn't trust mages but he doesn't think they should be abused. (My game was imported from a Surana!Warden female so Cullen was in love with the Hero. Which is never acknowledged at all, poo.) So mages could be like, Hey! The Champion didn't like her either! ... But my initial reaction was that it was more along the lines of, "Dammit Champion you went along with annulling the Circle grrr!" But you're right, in the end you can tell Meredith to shove it. Especially since she wants to execute you FOR NO GOOD REASON ****.

Evilnor wrote...

No matter which side you go with, Hawke is the one they talk about. I seriously wouldn't be surprised if the people thought mage-siding Hawke set the bomb and didn't even know about Anders. Hawke's the Champion, after all, so everyone knows him already. It's easier to ascribe something to a name you know rather than having to learn a new one, after all. That poor Anders doesn't get any recognition . . .

Cassandra also makes it clear through her talk with Varric that the general story has Hawke orchestrating everything that happened in Kirkwall over the whole 10-year period. Like what. Srsly? Which I suppose is why she's going to Varric at all, probably out of a sense of pure incredulity.

Yeah, Anders proclaiming that his name will be shouted by mages everywhere as a martyr for the cause, and then it didn't happen, that's pretty pathetic.

Modifié par beckaliz, 23 juin 2011 - 04:31 .

[Ryzaki]

Evilnor wrote...

No matter which side you go with, Hawke is the one they talk about. I seriously wouldn't be surprised if the people thought mage-siding Hawke set the bomb and didn't even know about Anders. Hawke's the Champion, after all, so everyone knows him already. It's easier to ascribe something to a name you know rather than having to learn a new one, after all. That poor Anders doesn't get any recognition . . .

This pretty much. 

Templar or Mages Hawke's name is the rallying cry. 

[Sialater]

Ryzaki wrote...

Evilnor wrote...

No matter which side you go with, Hawke is the one they talk about. I seriously wouldn't be surprised if the people thought mage-siding Hawke set the bomb and didn't even know about Anders. Hawke's the Champion, after all, so everyone knows him already. It's easier to ascribe something to a name you know rather than having to learn a new one, after all. That poor Anders doesn't get any recognition . . .

This pretty much. 

Templar or Mages Hawke's name is the rallying cry. 

Which doesn't actually make any sense.  Unless it's to stroke the player's ego.

Oh, and hi, I'm BACK!

[Ryzaki]

Sialater wrote...
Which doesn't actually make any sense.  Unless it's to stroke the player's ego.

Oh, and hi, I'm BACK!

Makes sense to me. If a defender of the mages Hawke is better PR than the dude who blew up the Chantry. If slayer of the mages Hawke is better PR (slew hundreds of defenseless mages for an apostate's who blew up the chantry crimes) and gives them an icon of injustice to fight against. Something more concerte than just the Chantry as a whole. It makes it more personal I suppose. Can't really blame the divine for what happened since she didn't order the RoA. Meredith was dead so it fell to Hawke.  ...Great now I'm thinking about Lelouch and how he tried to get all the hatred of the world aimed at him. Goddamnit it. *rewatches  Code Geass* 

They could use both but using Anders might end up with Hawke's actions being looked on a gentler light by some people.(Rallying under the guy who blew up the Chantry isn't gonna win many brownie points with the commoners). 
Also. WB. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 23 juin 2011 - 04:40 .

[Furtled]

Dunizel wrote...
Zevran has been fixed? Really? Because last time I read the patch thread they said the issue started with the import in Awakenings, so it wasn't likely to get fixed.

I'm not 100% on it actually being fixed, just remember seeing mention of them attempting to do it with the lastest patch.

And another one here who's happy with the companions as they are, most extreme thing I did was put some trousers on Isabela. Kirkwall's cold at night!

[CulturalGeekGirl]

I honestly don't think Anders cares about being a visible martyr, or his name living forever, or what-have-you. I think he only really cares that his plan works, that something is accomplished, that something changes.

Sure, he says the martyr line, but to me that sounds like a final act of defiance, an attempt to gather his courage to face the death he knows is coming. It's not about personal glory for him, and while he may use that as a comfort while he is dying, he's already given up everything he has and is for mages... it's not like he'd balk at not getting credit for it.

I've said this before, here and elsewhere: Anders trusts in heroes, and is smart enough to realize he's not one. He hopes that someone like Hawke or the Warden will be able to take hold of this chaos and drive it somewhere useful.

[ipgd]

Evilnor wrote...

No matter which side you go with, Hawke is the one they talk about. I seriously wouldn't be surprised if the people thought mage-siding Hawke set the bomb and didn't even know about Anders. Hawke's the Champion, after all, so everyone knows him already. It's easier to ascribe something to a name you know rather than having to learn a new one, after all. That poor Anders doesn't get any recognition . . .

We do not know enough about the fallout to definitively say Anders is an unknown in the public eye. We will not know until DA3. Given Sebastian, I highly doubt it.

[beckaliz]

You know, if Hawke becomes a rallying cry for the mages either way, for killing Meredith and an Orsino who went psychotic with blood magic, they might still like him/her? Just speculation. I don't believe in that strongly, but it's possible that they could sort of manipulate the situation like that in DA3 to avoid plot complications. Which would be more or less boning us for our decisions, though. :\\

I dunno. Who knows. I hope it has a big effect in the next game. Cos that's a major emotional decision for most PCs.

On another Anders topic, I dreamed about him last night. Like, all night. I got to kiss him once! I think I need help....

[Sialater]

Well, the way Cassandra leaps on "grey Wardens" if you make Bethany or Carver a Warden seems to me that at least one of the rumors has it as a plot BY the Wardens. So, Anders is suspected, just as a Wardenly tool.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

Whenever anyone acts as if "oooh, the Chantry doesn't have any enemies other than the mages!" I always think of the Wardens. The Chantry tried to fight Alistair's recruitment, they tried to fight Anders' conscription, and it's implied that they openly opposed the Wardens until they saddled Anders with Rolan.

[Ryzaki]

Sialater wrote...

Well, the way Cassandra leaps on "grey Wardens" if you make Bethany or Carver a Warden seems to me that at least one of the rumors has it as a plot BY the Wardens. So, Anders is suspected, just as a Wardenly tool.

 

I still fail to see how it makes perfect sense the GWs were involved. 

[ipgd]

Ryzaki wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Well, the way Cassandra leaps on "grey Wardens" if you make Bethany or Carver a Warden seems to me that at least one of the rumors has it as a plot BY the Wardens. So, Anders is suspected, just as a Wardenly tool.

 

I still fail to see how it makes perfect sense the GWs were involved. 

It doesn't have to. Cassandra doesn't know the real story.

[DreamerM]

ipgd wrote...
We do not know enough about the fallout to definitively say Anders is an unknown in the public eye. We will not know until DA3. Given Sebastian, I highly doubt it.

What if you're unwilling to pay the $7 for an archer so Sabastian doesn't exist?

Logically, I can get that he doesn't like Anders, but taking his entire city-state to war over the fate of one dude, even one horrible war criminal, doesn't strike me as a reasonable thing to do.

Cassandra doesn't react at all when Anders comes up. She mentions him as a rogue Gray Warden, but if she knew HE was the one who blew up the Chantry, she doesn't care.

[mesmerizedish]

Sebastian exists whether you have the DLC or not. And no one has ever claimed he's reasonable

[Ryzaki]

ipgd wrote...
It doesn't have to. Cassandra doesn't know the real story.

 

It has to make perfect sense for whatever she thinks the story is. 

Which begs the question what rumors are going around that would make her think the Wardens being involved makes perfect sense? 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 23 juin 2011 - 05:30 .