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Ahh, gotcha. I agree, though I find the "background" interspecies relationship dynamic in ME to be one of the more interesting and better-written ones I've ever encountered in a Sci-fi game, now is not the time 'nor the place for that argument, and the ability the player has to actually interact with it beyond just reading about it is either maddeningly slight or unrealistically impactful.

(Recommendations for games with good politics? Feel free to PM if it's too OT)


ME3 relations with the geth? *sigh.* i really wish legion had been available earlier. he was just awesome  


edit; well i suppose i should be on topic... disney princess anders!

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edit; well i suppose i should be on topic... disney princess anders!


His legs are fabolous. Does he shave them?

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CulturalGeekGirl wrote...
Ahh, gotcha. I agree, though I find the "background" interspecies relationship dynamic in ME to be one of the more interesting and better-written ones I've ever encountered in a Sci-fi game, now is not the time 'nor the place for that argument, and the ability the player has to actually interact with it beyond just reading about it is either maddeningly slight or unrealistically impactful.

(Recommendations for games with good politics? Feel free to PM if it's too OT)


I thought it was done better in ME1 than ME2. Though the timeline really hurts the believability. It's not believable for humanity to become this powerful in 2 decades after first contact. And like you said, it's really in the bg and not so much integral to the plot (other than the end choice of ME1, which consequences ME2 did not show well, though I understand the limitations).

And I'll pm you now as the mere mention of the game's name pisses off many.

True. A long time ago I read a really good article on character agency that centred around balancing independence and freedom to act with power. Kings don't have the ability to run around free doing what they'd like, but neither do ability-less ratspit villagers. I do actually feel like both DA:O and ME did decent jobs of this, at least, but if you can name games that do it better I'd be interested.


Decent at best imo. For me ranging between mediocre and decent. DA2 was ranging between mediocre and terrible in that regard (leaning more towards terrible). 

I could really go on a huge rant as to why Bioware generally fails at writing mature, complex and pseudo-realistic political plots / settings, but I have to go now.


Ahh, now I understand. I assume we're talking both about general poor planning and the idiot ball, right? I think Meredith for example would have been much more fascinating if she'd been a Joe McCarthy type, with a coherent and rational plan to discredit and destroy her enemies while forwarding her own fairly insane political agenda, to the point where it's uncertain whether she truly believes her own madness. It could have roughly the same denouement, but with less stupidity in the leadup. Is this the kind of thing you're thinking about?


Mostly yes. And without the stupid idol. Same with mages. Less focus on demons and madness. If they want to show mages as dangerous people, I am fine with it, so long as they are still people.

Act 2 could have been decent, but I also felt that Petrice and the Arishok suffered from the idiot ball. In addition to a poor reason to have the Qunari there in the first place.


And now I gtg, cheers everyone!

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Just finished the game again. Now I have to do the ending all over again so I can have a save which is metagame free. :pinched: Arararararaararar Correm must kill Anders.

I love you all, but, I don't want to get married again. :crying:

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Queen-of-Stuff wrote...

His legs are fabolous. Does he shave them?

 


waxes, so i hear. then he doesn't have to take a razor up sundermount

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Oh hey! You should totally join our open thread marriage. Like Anders, it's a bit of an emotional rollercoaster. It's pretty awesome, what with everybody kissing everybody and all.


Well no one's kissed me yet. And I am like, the core of this open marriage. :lol:


Here!  www.youtube.com/watch ;)

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YamiSnuffles wrote...

River5 wrote...

I'm TheLostGirl21 on DeviantArt, BTW...

I couldn't keep my name here because my partner and I share the same user account.  :P  But I'm the only one using it for posting, so it's always me.

Oh!  And Ashyraine asked me to join your open marriage...  I hope you guys don't mind!  :wub:


Oh hey! You should totally join our open thread marriage. Like Anders, it's a bit of an emotional rollercoaster. It's pretty awesome, what with everybody kissing everybody and all.


Wonderful!  I feel like...  This could be a disaster, but I can't live without it!  I would drown the entire BSN in blood to keep you all safe!  :o<3

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A shocking... shocking amount of psychology is just "let's try this and see if it makes them better. No? Ok, try something else." There are a number of psychologcal dugs in widespread use that we have no real idea how or why they work. It's basically Dr. House on steroids. Did you know that sometimes the only way to determine which disorder someone actually has is to feed him all the pills and see which one actually ends up working? Yes I am exaggerating for comedic effect, but only slightly... only slightly. This is one of the reasons I love the social sciences... at this point most of the physical sciences are just very difficult math, or measuring and cataloguing minute differences, or doing elaborate and exacting experiments... things that I don't have an exceptional aptitude for. I'm not going to ever be a revolutionary chemist, I just don't have the numbers. 96th percentile in math will get you a big bag of 'not good enough' in some of the higher sciences. But we don't even know what SHAPE most of human sexuality is! Is dominance and submissiveness hardwired, or is it culturally imprinted? Nobody's even started to look at that, and that's... literally insane. I could come up with a comprehensive Kinsey style survey on cultural norms in sexuality in like six hours, and it wouldn't require that much math until the analytical stage (note: if you funded me to do this, I promise to spend more than six hours on it). The main problems are funding and ethics... but when you're screwing with your not-quite-human boyfriend's head, you don't need funding or ethics! Ahahahahahaha! I will do science to it. Ahem, Sorry, sorry. You need some ethics, I'm sure.

While determining whether or not they're seperate in conception or fact is a good start, it's not even vital to guess right, though I think it is important to figure out how he percieves them, and whether this perception actually changes from moment to moment, or whether how he explains it is simply changing. Whether or not he can be spoken with productively while he glows blue is more important, and speaking with him in the fade may be useful too (though I appreciate the increased challenge of doing without that.) The point is to try things and check in to see if all aspects, percieved or real, of the whole person are improving or not.


Sorry I realise I've pulled this thread back a couple of pages here (it moves way too fast for me to keep up with!). I don't from a scientific perspective think that it would be a good idea to 'check in to see if all aspects, percieved or real, of the whole person are improving or not'. Things could go backwards instead of getting better if you do the wrong thing. You can't start with a blank slate each time. Would you risk making someone worse?

Whatever you tried before will affect what you do in the future, so even if you try somethign and it appears to work you would never know why it did and whether it will remain that way. 

I guess this is why I don't like most psychology, I have  been to a counseller and it was one of the worst experiences of my life. If you don't know the answers, please don't try and mess with my head and go with gut instincts. I honestly feel the counselling made things worse. I do think it is better to leave well alone than to try guessing games with people. I think what bothers me the most about psychology is it seems very 'jack of all trades' to me. You wouldn't want a heart surgeon operating on your kidneys, yet in psychology generally the NHS offers one or two counsellers in an area who seem to deal with everything.

However, I do love science far too much and the only psychologists I like are the ones doing experiments on the brain and look at testable hypotheses. Which even I know is not how medicine always works, many things get cured by a mistake rather than research, so... I guess it could work but I personally wouldn't take the risk of making someone worse. 

However, as someone who works at a science funding council maybe I could sneakily fund your research on human sexuality ^_^

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Queen-of-Stuff wrote...

His legs are fabolous. Does he shave them?

 


waxes, so i hear. then he doesn't have to take a razor up sundermount


Would explain why he doesn't remove any of his stubble. I'm not a man, but I can imagine that waxing half your face would be most unpleasant.

He does seem to go at his eyebrows, though.

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Byebye KoP~

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Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...

kromify wrote...

Queen-of-Stuff wrote...

His legs are fabolous. Does he shave them?

 


waxes, so i hear. then he doesn't have to take a razor up sundermount


Would explain why he doesn't remove any of his stubble. I'm not a man, but I can imagine that waxing half your face would be most unpleasant.

He does seem to go at his eyebrows, though.


Or he could use magic to burn the hair at the root like with electrolysis or pulsed light hair removal... 

Okay, I think I'm giving it WAY too much thought...  :blink:

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Or he could use magic to burn the hair at the root like with electrolysis or pulsed light hair removal... 

Okay, I think I'm giving it WAY too much thought...  :blink:


i think the lucrosians could have secured better mage rights with this useful magic. now if only the dishes could be enchanted to wash themselves...

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In a lot of ways, KoP reminds me of that one guy who takes 19th century romantic literature partially because he enjoys it and partially because he knows he'll be the only dude in a class full of educated ladies. In a good way, though. Those dudes are often much more savvy about the way the world works.

Also, Anders was totally that guy in the tower.
"Anders, why are you taking healing? That class is full of girls."
"So it is, boys. So it is."

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Or he could use magic to burn the hair at the root like with electrolysis or pulsed light hair removal... 

Okay, I think I'm giving it WAY too much thought...  :blink:


Ooooh... I want to visit a magical beauty salon. Pulsed light hair removal that doesn't hurt? With a side of hobo mage? Yes please!

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ElleMullineux wrote...

River5 wrote...
Or he could use magic to burn the hair at the root like with electrolysis or pulsed light hair removal... 

Okay, I think I'm giving it WAY too much thought...  :blink:


Ooooh... I want to visit a magical beauty salon. Pulsed light hair removal that doesn't hurt? With a side of hobo mage? Yes please!


I'm going to have to touch your legs to do the procedure. Is that all right? 

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Wonderful!  I feel like...  This could be a disaster, but I can't live without it!  I would drown the entire BSN in blood to keep you all safe!  :o<3


I want you right here in this thread UNTIL THE DAY WE DIE! :wub:<3

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CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

ElleMullineux wrote...

River5 wrote...
Or he could use magic to burn the hair at the root like with electrolysis or pulsed light hair removal... 

Okay, I think I'm giving it WAY too much thought...  :blink:


Ooooh... I want to visit a magical beauty salon. Pulsed light hair removal that doesn't hurt? With a side of hobo mage? Yes please!


I'm going to have to touch your legs to do the procedure. Is that all right? 


I've booked in for the full body procedure :innocent::whistle:

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Or he could use magic to burn the hair at the root like with electrolysis or pulsed light hair removal... 

Okay, I think I'm giving it WAY too much thought...  :blink:


No, no, no, no. This is a Very Important Discussion. I've spent so much time considering these kinds of practical uses for magic, you have no idea.

I also figured that the reason default Carver looks like his eyebrows have been shaven off and painted on is because his siblings must have burned them off on accident (or not) and he tried to fix it. Either that, or he must have accepted grooming tips from King Cailan.

Oh, Your Majesty, what have your eyebrows ever done to you.

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CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

In a lot of ways, KoP reminds me of that one guy who takes 19th century romantic literature partially because he enjoys it and partially because he knows he'll be the only dude in a class full of educated ladies. In a good way, though. Those dudes are often much more savvy about the way the world works.

Also, Anders was totally that guy in the tower.
"Anders, why are you taking healing? That class is full of girls."
"So it is, boys. So it is."


then be stuck with a degree that doesn't suit in the name of notching the bedpost? i disagree

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CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

In a lot of ways, KoP reminds me of that one guy who takes 19th century romantic literature partially because he enjoys it and partially because he knows he'll be the only dude in a class full of educated ladies. In a good way, though. Those dudes are often much more savvy about the way the world works.

Also, Anders was totally that guy in the tower.
"Anders, why are you taking healing? That class is full of girls."
"So it is, boys. So it is."


Yes, and then he got so used to being "one of the girls", that his first sexual encounter was with Karl!  Lol!

Joking aside, I can confirm that the only 3 men we had in a class of about 25 when I studied nursing didn't complain much.  ;)

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I've booked in for the full body procedure :innocent::whistle:


ooo me too! me too! 

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River5 wrote...

Wonderful!  I feel like...  This could be a disaster, but I can't live without it!  I would drown the entire BSN in blood to keep you all safe!  :o<3


I want you right here in this thread UNTIL THE DAY WE DIE! :wub:<3


Want a Sandwich?  :wub:<3:D

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River5 wrote...

Wonderful!  I feel like...  This could be a disaster, but I can't live without it!  I would drown the entire BSN in blood to keep you all safe!  :o<3


I want you right here in this thread UNTIL THE DAY WE DIE! :wub:<3


Want a Sandwich?  :wub:<3:D


Our bed has room for everyone. Except the dog :P

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kromify wrote...

ElleMullineux wrote...
I've booked in for the full body procedure :innocent::whistle:


ooo me too! me too! 

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Wait, is that a hair on my breast?  *Gasp*  I think it is!  :innocent:

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