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[beckaliz]

highcastle wrote...

The thing with drunkenness is that it can quickly spiral from bouncing-off-the-walls-goofy-antics into oh-Maker-what-did-we-do. It's like a free pass to be out of character. Or perhaps he's focused on the fun bits to deflect from the fact that he just helped kill a bunch of templars. I know my Noah's awfully good at not confronting anything negative until it ups and slaps him the face.

I figured it would help him be clueless and flirt with Anders accidentally. ;3 I'm gonna have to rework this scene later though. I can type so much faster than I write longhand but I can carry a notebook anywhere.

Yeah I like Noah. I like seeing his progression too. Seems to me he starts taking things more seriously as time goes on. Correm just starts to get angry I think. Or if not angry, then certainly he loses patience with Kirkwall as a whole. Act 3 certainly sees more red convo options for him.


BELATED EDIT FOR TOP...


Anders in Dreamland full strip

Modifié par beckaliz, 05 juillet 2011 - 01:05 .

[ipgd]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

I agree. I'm always saying "I know the solution: a polyamorous triad! why am I the only person who ever thinks the solution is a polyamorous triad? Hell, why can't all the characters just live in a big sex commune like in Stranger in a Strange Land? Guys? Where are you going? Guys?"

ikr

I'm still peeved they passed up the opportunity for poly in DA2. Isabela would have worked with any of the other love interests. Come onnn, Bioware, you did it in Jade Empire )':

Modifié par ipgd, 04 juillet 2011 - 11:48 .

[CulturalGeekGirl]

beckaliz wrote...

@ CGG:

You must link me this Fenders + Hawke. I insist n

Sillyness for Top.


by Rinkara


It's mostly in the realm of fanart, actually. A lot of people on tumblr seem fascinated by the idea of three dudes, and I have to say that, considering the particular dudes involved, I do not entirely disagree.

Bear in mind that I never liked a slash pairing before DA, and now, now I have been destroyed. I never read fanfic or looked at porny tumblrs. I blame Gone-Batty pretty much entirely, because well-drawn, non-porn fan comics were the one indulgence I allowed myself, and she lead me directly into the spiral of following 2-3 mightily risque fanartists on tumblr, and then the fan artists link to fics, and then I go insane.

Unfortunately, old tumblr stuff is often maddeningly hard for me to track down, because it goes by so fast and is archived so poorly. Oh Tumblr, you are like livejournal except that more people use you and also you are terrible for communication. If I find any stuff that is good, rest assured I will try to find some good way to share it.

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 05 juillet 2011 - 12:24 .

[beckaliz]

@CGG:

Can you take top for me? I can't edit posts from my phone. Lol. XD

Mercedes Lackey introduced me to slash. I was surprised, confused, curious, tolerant, then eventually I took a turn driving that bus myself.

I'm sure I could turn this around to a deconstruction of Anders vs. Fenris slash, but I think that's a touchy subject for some. (Plus, I'm using an iPhone right now. I have to manually make quotes for crissake. Forget about rambling.)

[SurelyForth]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

Also, love Fenders+Hawke. I've also seen a lot of interesting Alistair + PC + Anders (as a third brought in for fun) fics, though I haven't actually read any of them yet, as they're often really bloody long, with chapters and chapters of angst before the good stuff. I am impatient! 

I wish there was more Alistair + PC + Anders fic. 

Fenders still shreds my brain, and not even the idea of them with a Hawke who has slept with both of them can make it work for me. The only person who has made the presence of Fenris and Anders in the same sexual encounter work for me at all is (NSFW) Rattsu. 

[upsettingshorts]

Fenders only makes sense to me in one context.

This one.

With Iceman as Fenris and Maverick as Anders.

Basically, just copy every scene in Top Gun that has those two. It's homoerotic enough.

[River5]

Okay, so this is a complete change of subject (but still 100% related to Anders, don't worry)...  And I'm sorry if that has already been discussed...

But am I the only one who thinks that the situation that Anders is experiencing with Justice is very reminiscent of "The Incredible Hulk"?

As long as Bruce Banner stays calm and maintains his temper... All is well... But as soon as he lets his anger take over, the Hulk comes out, and though essentially "good", he can be pretty dangerous / destructive in his behavior because he has very little control over his rage.

The "Hulk" isn't a completely different entity from Banner, just as Anders says that Justice and he are "one"...  And both (Anders and Banner) don't always remember what their green / blue counterparts have been doing while in control...

I can easily imagine Anders giving people the warning "Don't make me angry... You wouldn't like me when I'm angry..."  Lol!

Modifié par River5, 05 juillet 2011 - 12:33 .

[beckaliz]

@River5:

BSN doesn't have a "like" button but if they did I'd be pushing it.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

beckaliz wrote...

@CGG:

Can you take top for me? I can't edit posts from my phone. Lol. XD

Mercedes Lackey introduced me to slash. I was surprised, confused, curious, tolerant, then eventually I took a turn driving that bus myself.

I'm sure I could turn this around to a deconstruction of Anders vs. Fenris slash, but I think that's a touchy subject for some. (Plus, I'm using an iPhone right now. I have to manually make quotes for crissake. Forget about rambling.)

Sure, I'll find a top in a sec.

And I don't consider canon homosexual pairings to be "slash." I was already on board with canon homosexual pairings. I had (have) a weird literary hangup about fanfiction in general that is rapidly being chiseled away. It's something I always mean to write an essay about, the problem is that both sides (pro-fic and anti-fic) are very... vocal, and describing my transition from being moderately anti-fic when I was very young to being more tolerant to actually enjoying it now might get angry letters from both sides. There's nothing I hate more than angry letters from both sides.

Anyway, in my weirdly regimented view: Slash is fanfiction that establishes a romantic relationship between characters who do not explicitly share one in canon (orig: a way of denoting the pairing in a fic, Kirk/Spock is the earliest recorded example). Elaboration on relationships that explicitly exist in canon may be erotic fanfiction, sort of a grey area (fic featuring Batwoman and Rene Montoya, for example. They are in a relationship in the comics)

So, to me, videos of M!Hawke and Fenris or Anders kissing are not slash in my book, they're a canon homosexual pairing. Fanfiction that elaborates on that idea is sort-of-slash, since it's elaborating on a canon relationship. Anders + Fenris is PURE slash, since it is inventing a relationship between two characters who do not share a canon relationship. None of this really matters, and it's largely an artifact in my thinking based on the fact that I first approached the idea of fanfiction with purely anthropological curiosity, as one would view a tribe of undiscovered pornsmiths who have remained uncontacted in the amazon for decades.

[ademska]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Fenders only makes sense to me in one context.

This one.

With Iceman as Fenris and Maverick as Anders.

Basically, just copy every scene in Top Gun that has those two. It's homoerotic enough.

iceman and maverick are still too homoerotic and within the realm of possibility to equate to fenders. and does that mean hawke is kellie mcgillis?

sidenote: my parents just called me to tell me they spent the 4th at the mansion of the guy who did the ****ty take my breath away song

[upsettingshorts]

Karl is Goose.
Hawke is Charlie.

[beckaliz]

@CGG: Nice top.

Actually my semantics are the same. I just used the word slash because it seems awkward to use the word "yaoi" on this forum. I actually have a picture of Captain Jack and Ianto from Torhwood smooching it up and the caption says "it's not slash if it's canon". Durhurhur.

Oh, ecclectic tastes.

I think Anders needs love and affection no matter who is giving it to him.

Modifié par beckaliz, 05 juillet 2011 - 12:44 .

[ipgd]

"The gay" works just fine.

[ademska]

@shorts, this is acceptable. there is a proper amount of ****** and dead times with goose.
@beckaliz lmao that's because no one's used the term "yaoi" since like 2004

i actually have well-articulated reasons for disliking fenders in any circumstance that does not fundamentally change the characters, because i don't think it's otherwise possible. even aesthetically, big manly hawke with his big manly beard all the way.

[ipgd]

As I've said before, the only way I can see Fenders happening is if Hawke sells Fenris to Danarius and he later returns in Dragon Age III: Fenris Strikes Back on a mission to rape everyone in Kirkwall.

[SurelyForth]

ademska wrote...

i actually have well-articulated reasons for disliking fenders in any circumstance that does not fundamentally change the characters, because i don't think it's otherwise possible. even aesthetically, big manly hawke with his big manly beard all the way.

This is my thing, too. And it's mostly, and weirdly, protective of Fenris. I think that he's honestly happier with someone like Isabela, who is cool, secure and willing to (for lack of a better word) empower those around her. Anders is good, but he's not a terribly supportive person. Also, clingy, emotional vampire. 

But I can admit that I am someone who has trouble bending characters past how they're presented in canon. If two characters legit hate each other, or express nothing for each other, and have literally no sexual heat between them, I can't bring myself to dig them together and I refuse to go digging through context to make it work. 

Unless it's Alistair and Anders. But, again, that's more of a Dream Threesome thing and has little to do with them actually being together in any meaningful way.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 05 juillet 2011 - 12:52 .

[beckaliz]

@ipgd Well, I'll get into the habit of using that, instead.

@ademska Hahaha speak for yourself! You're just looking in the wrong place. TBH tho I consider it's only "yaoi" if some asian drew it. ;d Or someone who was too heavily inspired by such a source.

Uummmm. What I like most about Anders is him trying so vewwy vewwy hawd. Aaaand then the inevitable pathos while he's failing.

ipgd wrote...

As I've said before, the only way I can see Fenders happening is if Hawke sells Fenris to Danarius and he later returns in Dragon Age III: Fenris Strikes Back on a mission to rape everyone in Kirkwall.

I want to see this as a spoof. I'll give you the money to film it.

Modifié par beckaliz, 05 juillet 2011 - 12:54 .

[beckaliz]

I knew someone online once who liked Frodo x Sam.

*shudder*

[ipgd]

beckaliz wrote...

I knew someone online once who liked Frodo x Sam.

*shudder*

... That's about as common of a pairing as it gets.

[SurelyForth]

beckaliz wrote...

I knew someone online once who liked Frodo x Sam.

*shudder*

Having never read past FOTR, I honestly thought that Frodo and Sam were canon by the end of The Two Towers. 

Modifié par SurelyForth, 05 juillet 2011 - 01:03 .

[ademska]

SurelyForth wrote...
This is my thing, too. And it's mostly, and weirdly, protective of Fenris. I think that he's honestly happier with someone like Isabela, who is cool, secure and willing to (for lack of a better word) empower those around her. Anders is good, but he's not a terribly supportive person. Also, clingy, emotional vampire. 

But I can admit that I am someone who has trouble bending characters past how they're presented in canon. If two characters legit hate each other, or express nothing for each other, and have literally no sexual heat between them, I can't bring myself to dig them together and I refuse to go digging through context to make it work. 

Unless it's Alistair and Anders. But, again, that's more of a Dream Threesome thing and has little to do with them actually being together in any meaningful way.

yeah, i could maybe, maybe, buy some kind of au thingiebob where fenris or anders didn't have their impassable hangups, like justice or danarius and all the consequences thereof, but by then what's the point? i have less than zero, literally negative interest in exploring that.

alistair and anders is an exception. that's just pretty.
edit: and also, you know, not diametrically opposed in every way

Modifié par ademska, 05 juillet 2011 - 01:09 .

[beckaliz]

Oh, I know it's common, it's just that personally I find it pretty demeaning. But, that's me, and I'm not really sure how to articulate why I feel that way.

This same person wanted Scar from Lion King to be gay. My response was, "WTF why can't a guy be sophisticated and skinny without being gay =3=;; for reals yo".

Here is some Anders cuteness.


sauce

[highcastle]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Fenders only makes sense to me in one context.

This one.

With Iceman as Fenris and Maverick as Anders.

Basically, just copy every scene in Top Gun that has those two. It's homoerotic enough.

Fenders makes sense to me in no context, but I can almost picture it if I replay Top Gun scenes in my head.

*starts humming Danger Zone*

[upsettingshorts]

You can be my wingman any time, highcastle.