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[dragonageobsessed]

His romance definately was charged and complex. That's what makes it so hard to get out of my head I really hope that Dragon Age II: Legacy is set after the events of DA:II, and deals with Anders. I want to live out the "me and Anders on the run" story But, I know that I'm probably going to be disappointed

[Amondra]

Judging by the trailer it looks like it might be after the game, I saw Anders in the trailer, so that might mean it takes place before the game ends, or because he was a default character he got to be in the trailer and it might change in game if you killed him, and will be after the game ends. I know it has to do with the Wardens and a Darkspawn that makes me think of the Architect in Awakening

[TotoroTori]

I have four cats and a cell phone full of pictures of cats I cross, strays I try to grab and take home....I even have a collection of kitty videos I found on YouTube....
Awww I bet she is a angel!!

Actually when I played it the first time I didn't know who to choose but ended up falling for Anders. I will admit the poop bomb moment was kinda "Oh my gosh!" I was hoping for a Mage Revolution but that did surprise me and I told Anders to go away while my Hawke sided with the Mages and then Anders was there! (I think that was when I almost ended it but somehow I knew my Hawke really loved him and they stayed together though I was thinking through his last speech "Anders did you impregnate my Hawke?!?!") Fenris ended up with Isabela and I ended up shipping them and Sebastian was all "I will come after you and your precious Anders" I have to say that was his hottest moment but still...every game-play I try to romance another man I end up falling for the man who cares more about others then himself and maybe a headache but he acts selfless when helping people and that's why I like him more in DA2.And no I don't think when he says "I don't want to hurt you" is Twilight like I mean he has a freakin spirit in him! I dunno if I was glowing I would be careful as well with who I have a serious love with.

Well need me to link you to some Kink fics then? I remember reading one Anders/Hawke fanfic called "Heavy in Your Arms" and Anders died I was "Okay will only read what people wrote on kink meme..."

oh yeah we need a Anders image!

Modifié par TotoroTori, 08 juillet 2011 - 09:11 .

[DreamerM]

I became more interested in the LEGACY DLC when I saw Justice make a glowy appearence in the trailer...I really, REALLY hope this means we get to talk to Justice and not "hey look, you can bring Anders and he can do this cool thing, muaa!"

Hell, if it turns out the Legacy does involve the Architect, I can't believe Anders will have no opinion on the matter...

[Amondra]

@Totoro: No worries no Anders dying in my fic

@Dreamer: If it does involve him Anders better damn well have an opinion! Or I will be upset. Also I would love to have a chance to talk to Justice. I mean seriously I am a huge Justice fangirl >_>

[Patchwork]

I wonder if it is the Architect or if BW are just re-using the model. Or that's not the 2,0000 year old legacy monster.

Modifié par Ser Bard, 08 juillet 2011 - 10:01 .

[Amondra]

Ser Bard wrote...

I wonder if it is the Architect or if BW are just re-using the model. Or that's not the 2,0000 year old legacy monster.

I think the legacy monster is the actual first smart Darkspawn despite what people thought in Awakening, or what even the Architect thought.

[Giggles_Manically]

Anyone want to bet that Anders gets some new dialouge in the DLC?
What with him being a Grey Warden and the DLC showing Grey Wardens again?

[Heidenreich]

DreamerM wrote...

I became more interested in the LEGACY DLC when I saw Justice make a glowy appearence in the trailer...I really, REALLY hope this means we get to talk to Justice and not "hey look, you can bring Anders and he can do this cool thing, muaa!"

Hell, if it turns out the Legacy does involve the Architect, I can't believe Anders will have no opinion on the matter...

SOMEONEONE LINK ME THIS TRAILER, NOW 


*goes youtube hunting*


*squeels, fans herself*

Modifié par Heidenreich, 08 juillet 2011 - 12:49 .

[dragonageobsessed]

i need to read some of the fanfiction, but I'm worried that Anders will die in some of them, which I couldn't bear What I really would like is to see some sexy Anders artwork while I wait around for Legacy to come out

@TotoroTori: When Sebastian threatens Anders at the end, I really wish there was an option "stab Sebastian", cause I wanted to kill that raving Chantry lackey before he can hurt my 'precious' Anders And with Fenris, I was annoyed I somehow missed out on that quest where you get to ship him off to Tevinter, but I was glad I could finally deal with him after he turns on you when you support the mages

@Heidenreich: this is the trailer When I was watching it I was thinking, I don't care about the other companions... all I want is Anders I guess i can keep dreaming XD

[YamiSnuffles]

Although I'm not holding my breath for any major Anders interaction in Legacy, I really think he should have something to say. Either to the other Wardens or about the Dark Spawn. That's not too much to ask is it?

@dragonageobsessed I don't know that it qualifies as sexy, but this is my favorite piece of Anders artwork. I figure it's been long enough that I can post it here again:

by Sandara

Oh and if you're looking for good fics I suggest checking out the Anders Prompt Group. There are a lot of good submissions there ranging from funny to sad, serious to sexy.

Modifié par YamiSnuffles, 08 juillet 2011 - 01:11 .

[beckaliz]

 Yeah, having Warden stuff in it, I'm really excited to get to play my canon over again so that Anders can still be in it. *rolls eyes*

Maybe I've got an Act 2 save somewhere in his file.

Modifié par beckaliz, 08 juillet 2011 - 01:29 .

[SurelyForth]

beckaliz wrote...

 Yeah, having Warden stuff in it, I'm really excited to get to play my canon over again so that Anders can still be in it. *rolls eyes*

Maybe I've got an Act 2 save somewhere in his file.

If it's like DAO, the automatic DLC save is, technically, before anyone can be stabbed in the back or leave in a fit of rage. So Anders should still be there.

And, before you ask, I totally ran to camp after doing the Warden-Commander ending of Origins to kiss Alistair and tell him how sorry I was.

[River5]

ademska wrote...

River5 wrote...
I really saw it as a combination of the two.  Some aspects used from bipolar disorder, and some aspects used from dissociative identity disorder.

Nothing restrained her to using only a "pure model", so to speak.  We are dealing with an hypothetic, supernatural case of spirit possession.  So you can be allowed to play with that a lot.

Also, I've never seen a person suffering from bipolarity go "a demon made me do it"...  Or create another "entity" in order to take the blame for their bad behaviors.  That's more DID.

DID patients don't actively diffuse blame for actions to their alters, though, and the alters aren't created as scapegoats; like, that's just not how DID works.

you're right in that we can't use bipolar disorder as a blanket template for anders' psychology and physiology, because, well, fantasy, but i don't think it's necessary or even possible to reconcile the gaps there with DID, which is a medically controversial subject anyway. i'm much more comfortable, as someone who studied a bit of psychology, labelling anders' mental state as 'based loosely on bipolar disorder as a writing mechanic but with obviously diverging points'.

Actually, the main criteria for DID is the presence of at least two identities, or "personality states" within a single individual.  Each of them having their own ways of thinking; their own perceptions of themselve, the world around them, and the way they relate to both; their own behaviors and manierism; and sometimes even their own voice (the voice of the individual will change depending which one is in control).

Although some more severe forms of DID include absolute amnesia when switching from one identity to the next, that is not always the case.  There's almost always some form of memory impairment, but for some people suffering from DID, it will manifest more as feeling that they are "outside of their own bodies" with no control over what their other self (or selves) is (or are) doing.  So some level of self-awareness remains while "switching".

People suffering from the disorder often have a tendency towards self-persecution, self-sabotaging, and violence.  And, under the influence of their "alter", will find themselves engaging in behaviors that they wouldn't normally engage in themselves, while describing the experience as "being a passenger in their own skin", rather than the driver.

So, they will still be there when the actions they perceive as "undesirable" or "unacceptable" are being committed, but think that they have no other choice than to comply to the will of their "alter", who is the one in full control when these situations occur.

So yes, DID patients will readily blame their alter for actions that their "body" have committed, and use them as a scapegoats.  With the important precision that they 100% BELIEVE in that "alter".  It's not some excuse that they have conveniently invented on a conscious, voluntary level.

In psychiatry, DID is seen basically as a coping mechanism.  The person's "very unconvential and pathological" way to resolve life's dilemmas...  And/or a way for someone to dissociate themselves from earlier physical or psychological traumas that they are no longer able to endure (letting "someone else" deal with their pain and anger).

There is also a high incidence of comorbidity between DID, and other mental illnesses, such as bipolarity.

So Anders is actually a pretty strong case of DID.  The more "classic" manifestation being when Justice takes over, and Anders has no recollection of what the spirit has been doing or saying (the way that DID is often envisioned in the popular culture).

But the rest of the time, he still fits the diagnostic cluster for DID.

I am neither a psychiatrist or psychologist, but have studied a bit of both fields, and worked on a mental health patients unit for some time (I'm a nurse).  Though, to be fair, I have never met a single case of DID.  That's actually pretty rare.

Modifié par River5, 08 juillet 2011 - 02:32 .

[Sialater]

SurelyForth wrote...

beckaliz wrote...

 Yeah, having Warden stuff in it, I'm really excited to get to play my canon over again so that Anders can still be in it. *rolls eyes*

Maybe I've got an Act 2 save somewhere in his file.

If it's like DAO, the automatic DLC save is, technically, before anyone can be stabbed in the back or leave in a fit of rage. So Anders should still be there.

And, before you ask, I totally ran to camp after doing the Warden-Commander ending of Origins to kiss Alistair and tell him how sorry I was.

Heh, I've never gotten that achievement and probably never will.  I just can't do it. 

[FieryDove]

SurelyForth wrote...

And, before you ask, I totally ran to camp after doing the Warden-Commander ending of Origins to kiss Alistair and tell him how sorry I was.

That's reminds me again, why isn't Anders allowed a kiss end game like the others? I mean it looks like we may all die and stuff and all I got was a viva la revolution speech. unjust...sigh

YamiSnuffles wrote...

@dragonageobsessed I don't know that it qualifies as sexy, but this is my favorite piece of Anders artwork. I figure it's been long enough that I can post it here again:

I love this! So much fantasic art, so little wallpaper space.

I really hope we can talk to Justice in the dlc, the fade was just wasted, I really wanted to talk to him when for the moment he wasn't all angsty/Justice mode.

Modifié par FieryDove, 08 juillet 2011 - 03:01 .

[Sialater]

OK, I have a query/idea/pondering...

From the trailer of this DLC it seems like they're setting Hawke up to be a savior character like the Warden & Shepard. That DA2 was only her prologue, so to speak. Do you think this means our "everygirl" heroine* will be back and just as larger than life as her video game siblings in DA3, or that this is her last hurrah? If it's the former, what's to become of our beloved apostate?

*Feel free to switch for gender neutral identifiers.

[River5]

Sialater wrote...

OK, I have a query/idea/pondering...

From the trailer of this DLC it seems like they're setting Hawke up to be a savior character like the Warden & Shepard. That DA2 was only her prologue, so to speak. Do you think this means our "everygirl" heroine* will be back and just as larger than life as her video game siblings in DA3, or that this is her last hurrah? If it's the former, what's to become of our beloved apostate?

*Feel free to switch for gender neutral identifiers.

Well, if they bring back Hawke for DA3, all I hope is that they will do an Ashley / Kaidan on us...

For example: If you spared Anders and sided with mages, he comes back as your companion (and possible love interest)...  If you executed him, Sebastian is the one who comes back as a companion instead (since you have to choose between one or the other at the end without any way around it).

If you had Sebastian leave (by sparing Anders), and sided with the Templars (something that always results in Anders' death, even if he fights against the Cirlce with you), then neither of them are back; or Sebastian, having learned that Anders is dead, revises his position and comes back.

But I doubt that Hawke will be back.  "Dragon Age" seems more about the story of what's happening in Thedas during the "Dragon Ages"; than it is a story about a single man (or woman's) quest to save the galaxy.

[Sialater]

River5 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

OK, I have a query/idea/pondering...

From the trailer of this DLC it seems like they're setting Hawke up to be a savior character like the Warden & Shepard. That DA2 was only her prologue, so to speak. Do you think this means our "everygirl" heroine* will be back and just as larger than life as her video game siblings in DA3, or that this is her last hurrah? If it's the former, what's to become of our beloved apostate?

*Feel free to switch for gender neutral identifiers.

Well, if they bring back Hawke for DA3, all I hope is that they will do an Ashley / Kaidan on us...

For example: If you spared Anders and sided with mages, he comes back as your companion (and possible love interest)...  If you executed him, Sebastian is the one who comes back as a companion instead (since you have to choose between one or the other at the end without any way around it).

If you had Sebastian leave (by sparing Anders), and sided with the Templars (something that always results in Anders' death, even if he fights against the Cirlce with you), then neither of them are back; or Sebastian, having learned that Anders is dead, revises his position and comes back.

But I doubt that Hawke will be back.  "Dragon Age" seems more about the story of what's happening in Thedas during the "Dragon Ages"; than it is a story about a single man (or woman's) quest to save the galaxy.

I agree with that last part, but that's not what they seem to want to head toward.

[DAYtheELF]

Did anyone post the DA: Legacy trailer yet????

O.O -.- O.O -.- O.O!!!!!!! I NEED THIS NOW.



:O:O:O:O:O

[Hill-Hurwitz]

DAYtheELF wrote...

Did anyone post the DA: Legacy trailer yet????

O.O -.- O.O -.- O.O!!!!!!! I NEED THIS NOW.



:O:O:O:O:O

I need more glowing Justice. And, uh, talking to him. Totally just talking to him.

[YamiSnuffles]

I just hope if this revelation about the Hawke family is something hugely life changing, Hawke will get to talk to someone about it. I would prefer talking to your LI (more delicious Anders comfort) but it would also be nice even if it was Varric or Aveline.

[Ryzaki]

Sialater wrote...

OK, I have a query/idea/pondering...

From the trailer of this DLC it seems like they're setting Hawke up to be a savior character like the Warden & Shepard. That DA2 was only her prologue, so to speak. Do you think this means our "everygirl" heroine* will be back and just as larger than life as her video game siblings in DA3, or that this is her last hurrah? If it's the former, what's to become of our beloved apostate?

*Feel free to switch for gender neutral identifiers.

 

I hope Hawke's not back in DA3. Probably because due to the companion death variables ( I know ah yes "variables") there's a high chance of some companions not coming back in as much capacity of others. Though if he does come back I'll inclinedto believe he'll be on his own or with an LI for a short time before something makes them seperate for most of the game. 

[ashyraine]

@yamisnuffles or Varranders comfort?

Just watched the trailer (on my cell since the monsoon seems to have knocked out the DSL) and that just looks like Anders fighting in Vengeance mode. But I guess we can hope to interact with Justice anyway! Could be a hint. Come on July 26th

[Sialater]

Ryzaki wrote...

Sialater wrote...

OK, I have a query/idea/pondering...

From the trailer of this DLC it seems like they're setting Hawke up to be a savior character like the Warden & Shepard. That DA2 was only her prologue, so to speak. Do you think this means our "everygirl" heroine* will be back and just as larger than life as her video game siblings in DA3, or that this is her last hurrah? If it's the former, what's to become of our beloved apostate?

*Feel free to switch for gender neutral identifiers.

 

I hope Hawke's not back in DA3. Probably because due to the companion death variables ( I know ah yes "variables") there's a high chance of some companions not coming back in as much capacity of others. Though if he does come back I'll inclinedto believe he'll be on his own or with an LI for a short time before something makes them seperate for most of the game. 

God... not another "Horizon."