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[KnightofPhoenix]

Ugh Origins DLCs. Don't remind me.

Hopefully DA2 DLCs are more like ME2's. Those were awesome.

[beckaliz]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Ugh Origins DLCs. Don't remind me.

Hopefully DA2 DLCs are more like ME2's. Those were awesome.

Aawwww, but Return to Ostagar and Soldier's Peak had new fun lines for Alistair to say!  Plus, macabre crucifictions. Ho ho ho.

Don't worry, I know I, for one, am going to get Legacy the moment it's available. I shall extoll its virtues to you.

[ademska]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Ugh Origins DLCs. Don't remind me.

Hopefully DA2 DLCs are more like ME2's. Those were awesome.

can't speak to the quality of it yet, but from the official synopsis, trailer, and achievement list, it looks like they're leaning toward an me2-style dlc.

which makes me pee my pants in all the ways.

[Mekarah]

highcastle wrote...

Hill-Hurwitz wrote...

Any Anders-related content is better than no Anders-related content in my eyes.

My thoughts exactly. And considering party members weren't even included in some of the Origins DLC, I'll take what I can get.

Yes to all of this, seriously. I was worried the DA2 DLC would be like the DAO ones, where they...don't have a whole lot to do with the current party. So, yay!

I was talking last night to a friend about, oh, I'll wait to see if it's good and if I want to buy it, etc., but... let's be honest. I'm going to get it.

Also, I'm not sure what exactly "what we're looking for" (as in, the DLC might not have exactly what we're looking for in terms of content) would even mean, considering this thread. She probably thinks we won't be satisfied unless Meredanders or Mermaid-Anders pops up.

[highcastle]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Ugh Origins DLCs. Don't remind me.

Hopefully DA2 DLCs are more like ME2's. Those were awesome.

Yep, learning to fly a touchy hovercraft and being forced to solo a mission in a squad based game is awesome. Wait...

I actually thought DAO's DLC was better than par for most games. It just could have been better. And part of that "better" benchmark means incorporating characters we already care about.

[beckaliz]

Mekarah wrote...

Yes to all of this, seriously. I was worried the DA2 DLC would be like the DAO ones, where they...don't have a whole lot to do with the current party. So, yay!

I was talking last night to a friend about, oh, I'll wait to see if it's good and if I want to buy it, etc., but... let's be honest. I'm going to get it.

Also, I'm not sure what exactly "what we're looking for" (as in, the DLC might not have exactly what we're looking for in terms of content) would even mean, considering this thread. She probably thinks we won't be satisfied unless Meredanders or Mermaid-Anders pops up.

I read an article a while back that quoted the devs as saying that they weren't going to do the same sorts of things with DA2 DLC that they did with DAO. All the DLC for DA2 is going to be very Hawke-centric.

My guess about what she said regarding Anders-content in Legacy is that there will be a part for him if he's there, but he may not necessarily be a required party member.

highcastle wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Ugh Origins DLCs. Don't remind me. 

Hopefully DA2 DLCs are more like ME2's. Those were awesome.

Yep, learning to fly a touchy hovercraft and being forced to solo a mission in a squad based game is awesome. Wait...

I actually thought DAO's DLC was better than par for most games. It just could have been better. And part of that "better" benchmark means incorporating characters we already care about.

Ha ha ha! The "reset" feature of the hovercraft is epic.

Modifié par beckaliz, 08 juillet 2011 - 06:08 .

[Ryzaki]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Ugh Origins DLCs. Don't remind me.

Hopefully DA2 DLCs are more like ME2's. Those were awesome.

 

Origins DLCs left much to be desired. 

If they're like ME2's that'd be sweet. If it reaches LoTSB quality I will reach gaming heaven. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 08 juillet 2011 - 06:12 .

[Soapbubbles]

If DA2 dlc Lair of the Shadowbroker quality I'd find a way to buy it.

I liked Return to Ostagar, but that's because Loghain had a bunch of lines with Wynne.

Modifié par Soapbubbles, 08 juillet 2011 - 06:49 .

[Evilnor]

I'm a bit leery of the Legacy DLC, honestly. They reference an ancient evil from 2000 years ago, but if you look at the established timelines, the grey wardens themselves have only been around for 1200-1300 years TOPS, so how could they have imprisoned something for 2000? Unless the ancient evil is rounding up or something. I could see darkspawn as being around as a race for some time before the First Blight, just never seen by other people, but otherwise the numbers just don't line up with what we've already been told. Heck, 2000 years of imprisonment would almost have it line up with the start of the Tevinter calendar (approximately 200 years after, when the First blight happened 800 TE).

So yeah, a timeline discrepancy of at least 600 years has me feeling skeptical. I'm curious to see how they explain this, so I'd probably buy the DLC even if it didn't have more Anders specialness.

[Soapbubbles]

Maybe it has something to do with the magisters who entered the Golden City? I'm not sure they ever specified when that happened. Unless they did.

[ademska]

Evilnor wrote...

I'm a bit leery of the Legacy DLC, honestly. They reference an ancient evil from 2000 years ago, but if you look at the established timelines, the grey wardens themselves have only been around for 1200-1300 years TOPS, so how could they have imprisoned something for 2000? Unless the ancient evil is rounding up or something. I could see darkspawn as being around as a race for some time before the First Blight, just never seen by other people, but otherwise the numbers just don't line up with what we've already been told. Heck, 2000 years of imprisonment would almost have it line up with the start of the Tevinter calendar (approximately 200 years after, when the First blight happened 800 TE).

So yeah, a timeline discrepancy of at least 600 years has me feeling skeptical. I'm curious to see how they explain this, so I'd probably buy the DLC even if it didn't have more Anders specialness.

malcolm hawke is a mage, and the amells have magic in their line. wouldn't surprise me at all if that 2000 year tevinter overlap wasn't intentional. for as much discrepancy as there is re: dao-daa-da2 timeline, because i will admit that takes some serious jerryrigging to reconcile, i can't imagine hepler would miss something that big if the plot was intended to coincide with the first blight.

SO EXCITED!

[KnightofPhoenix]

Soapbubbles wrote...
I liked Return to Ostagar, but that's because Loghain had bunch of lines with Wynne.

Yea him telling her to stfu was worth it.

[Mekarah]

beckaliz wrote...

I read an article a while back that quoted the devs as saying that they weren't going to do the same sorts of things with DA2 DLC that they did with DAO. All the DLC for DA2 is going to be very Hawke-centric.

My guess about what she said regarding Anders-content in Legacy is that there will be a part for him if he's there, but he may not necessarily be a required party member.

Yeah, that's cool. I mean, actually liked the Origins DLCs alright, but that's exactly what I didn't like - the lack of your companions (in any meaningful way, anyway).

And psh, get out of here with your logic. I assume he'll have some new dialogue though. Didn't Adam Howden tweet about going into the studio to do some work around the same time another DA VA did? My twitters have been on the fritz for a while so I'm a bit behind on it all.

Modifié par Mekarah, 08 juillet 2011 - 06:50 .

[Patchwork]

The timeline discrepancy makes me hopeful that the DLC will deal with the Enigma of Kirkwall. That codex really intrigues me.

Personally I'd rather have new companions for a questline than deal with silent companions.

[Soapbubbles]

Let's see, how to post a link...

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/306/index/5682342/582#7830468

New lines for all companions, and special scenes with Varric and Anders.  I need to go find better things to do with my today, those windows won't wash themselves... 

[Reflection Muse]

Ser Bard wrote...

The timeline discrepancy makes me hopeful that the DLC will deal with the Enigma of Kirkwall. That codex really intrigues me. 

Yes! Likewise. Of all the codex bits and pieces in DA2, that was the one I latched onto the most and am fiending for more info about it.

[madzilla84]

Mekarah wrote...
Didn't Adam Howden tweet about going into the studio to do some work around the same time another DA VA did? My twitters have been on the fritz for a while so I'm a bit behind on it all.

He did (the other was Gideon Emery on Facebook). And I guess that means you might not have seen his tweet today featuring a love song for Anders & Hawke.

twitter.com/A_HOWDZ/status/89388146810290177

Modifié par madzilla84, 08 juillet 2011 - 06:54 .

[Evilnor]

I agree that the Amells and Hawkes may very well be descendants of Tevinter Magisters, and while that's interesting, it has nothing to do with Grey Wardens on that alone. While timeline discrepancies of a few years can be worked around and written off as misremembering dates and such, it's a little harder to ignore a 600 year difference.

On the subject of what Hepler thinks we're expecting . . . weren't we just talking about a conversation with Justice before she put in her 2 cents? *sniffle*

Besides that, she's probably touched that we like her character so much but at the same time creeped out by how we show our affection . . . probably thinks we're all rabid fangirls writing baseless fanfics and drawing pictures about things Anders would never do, unicorns, rainbows, snogging Fenris, Varric, Bianca, etc. . . . *cough* The list goes on. Well, at least things she wouldn't get paid to write him doing.

Edit: ah yes, the Enigma of Kirkwall . . . I'm also fascinated by it!  Rereading it all just now made me a little disappointed at how it tied in with the Fel Grimoire and the pride demon you find basically in your basement, implying that was scary enough.  I've said before that my pet theory about what really went down in Kirkwall was the physical crossover point when the magisters entered the Golden City.  It's never specified exactly when that happens, but we know it's before the First Blight (800 TE).  Kirkwall was around well before then, but the slave disappearances weren't all at once.  They were ongoing, seeming to purposefully make the veil thinner and cause demons to contact even normal people.  Maybe that made it easier to physically cross the Veil, so they wouldn't need as many slaves when the time came to do so?

Modifié par Evilnor, 08 juillet 2011 - 07:06 .

[Sialater]

Evilnor wrote...

I agree that the Amells and Hawkes may very well be descendants of Tevinter Magisters, and while that's interesting, it has nothing to do with Grey Wardens on that alone. While timeline discrepancies of a few years can be worked around and written off as misremembering dates and such, it's a little harder to ignore a 600 year difference.

On the subject of what Hepler thinks we're expecting . . . weren't we just talking about a conversation with Justice before she put in her 2 cents? *sniffle*

Besides that, she's probably touched that we like her character so much but at the same time creeped out by how we show our affection . . . probably thinks we're all rabid fangirls writing baseless fanfics and drawing pictures about things Anders would never do, unicorns, rainbows, snogging Fenris, Varric, Bianca, etc. . . . *cough* The list goes on. Well, at least things she wouldn't get paid to write him doing.

We don't get paid for it either. LOL

[Evilnor]

Sialater wrote...

Evilnor wrote...

I agree that the Amells and Hawkes may very well be descendants of Tevinter Magisters, and while that's interesting, it has nothing to do with Grey Wardens on that alone. While timeline discrepancies of a few years can be worked around and written off as misremembering dates and such, it's a little harder to ignore a 600 year difference.

On the subject of what Hepler thinks we're expecting . . . weren't we just talking about a conversation with Justice before she put in her 2 cents? *sniffle*

Besides that, she's probably touched that we like her character so much but at the same time creeped out by how we show our affection . . . probably thinks we're all rabid fangirls writing baseless fanfics and drawing pictures about things Anders would never do, unicorns, rainbows, snogging Fenris, Varric, Bianca, etc. . . . *cough* The list goes on. Well, at least things she wouldn't get paid to write him doing.

We don't get paid for it either. LOL

Aah, but the things she gets paid to write would have to make sense!  

[Reflection Muse]

Evilnor wrote...
Besides that, she's probably touched that we like her character so much but at the same time creeped out by how we show our affection . . . probably thinks we're all rabid fangirls writing baseless fanfics and drawing pictures about things Anders would never do, unicorns, rainbows, snogging Fenris, Varric, Bianca, etc. . . . *cough* The list goes on. Well, at least things she wouldn't get paid to write him doing.

Haha! Well I think most artists, writers or otherwise, are thrilled when their creations evoke inspiration in others, even if the creations are sometimes not what they themselves would create. Inspiring others is always very rewarding. Who knows, maybe she's a closet Fenders fan, too.

[Sialater]

Evilnor wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Evilnor wrote...

I agree that the Amells and Hawkes may very well be descendants of Tevinter Magisters, and while that's interesting, it has nothing to do with Grey Wardens on that alone. While timeline discrepancies of a few years can be worked around and written off as misremembering dates and such, it's a little harder to ignore a 600 year difference.

On the subject of what Hepler thinks we're expecting . . . weren't we just talking about a conversation with Justice before she put in her 2 cents? *sniffle*

Besides that, she's probably touched that we like her character so much but at the same time creeped out by how we show our affection . . . probably thinks we're all rabid fangirls writing baseless fanfics and drawing pictures about things Anders would never do, unicorns, rainbows, snogging Fenris, Varric, Bianca, etc. . . . *cough* The list goes on. Well, at least things she wouldn't get paid to write him doing.

We don't get paid for it either. LOL

Aah, but the things she gets paid to write would have to make sense!  

Hey, I do my best to make sense with the little lore we have.

[Toastyblue2]

Reflection Muse wrote...

Evilnor wrote...
Besides that, she's probably touched that we like her character so much but at the same time creeped out by how we show our affection . . . probably thinks we're all rabid fangirls writing baseless fanfics and drawing pictures about things Anders would never do, unicorns, rainbows, snogging Fenris, Varric, Bianca, etc. . . . *cough* The list goes on. Well, at least things she wouldn't get paid to write him doing.

Haha! Well I think most artists, writers or otherwise, are thrilled when their creations evoke inspiration in others, even if the creations are sometimes not what they themselves would create. Inspiring others is always very rewarding. Who knows, maybe she's a closet Fenders fan, too.

I ain't gonna lie. Hepler has my dream job.

About five years ago, I had the chance to participate in a Q&A with a female video game developer...I forget for which company, but I asked her if there were any jobs specifically for writers who had a passion for video games in the industry. She basically said that no, if I was looking to work in the industry I'd have to look at it the other way around, to start first as a developer of code before I could get my hands on any script writing.

Nowadays, fans are very savvy, and rpg fans demand rpgs that feel like living, breathing, playable books. I'm glad to see that Bioware is using separate writers for each character, so that their "voices" sound unique in the physical script before they even get voiced.

Anyway. Cool story, me.

*back on topic* Anders is the bombsauce.

Oh dear, I just made a pun with my own euphamism.

[Mekarah]

Reflection Muse wrote...

Evilnor wrote...
Besides that, she's probably touched that we like her character so much but at the same time creeped out by how we show our affection . . . probably thinks we're all rabid fangirls writing baseless fanfics and drawing pictures about things Anders would never do, unicorns, rainbows, snogging Fenris, Varric, Bianca, etc. . . . *cough* The list goes on. Well, at least things she wouldn't get paid to write him doing.

Haha! Well I think most artists, writers or otherwise, are thrilled when their creations evoke inspiration in others, even if the creations are sometimes not what they themselves would create. Inspiring others is always very rewarding. Who knows, maybe she's a closet Fenders fan, too.

Not speaking for Hepler, mind, but if it were me, I think the only sort of "fan work" I would be genuinely creeped out about would be some sort of RL fanfiction about me. A character is one thing, but when people start writing fanfiction about real people hooking up with other real people...I don't know, to each their own, but that weirds me out a bit. But about a character? Sure, why not? It's fun, and I think it would be cool to see how people interpret my character. But maybe that's also just me speaking as someone who does enjoy both silly and not silly fanworks so, eh.

[Toastyblue2]

Mekarah wrote...
Not speaking for Hepler, mind, but if it were me, I think the only sort of "fan work" I would be genuinely creeped out about would be some sort of RL fanfiction about me. A character is one thing, but when people start writing fanfiction about real people hooking up with other real people...I don't know, to each their own, but that weirds me out a bit. But about a character? Sure, why not? It's fun, and I think it would be cool to see how people interpret my character. But maybe that's also just me speaking as someone who does enjoy both silly and not silly fanworks so, eh.

I think I share J.K. Rowling's views on the subject: I would be flattered by any fanworks about my characters, but I wouldn't read them due to intellectual property issues.

I'm not a fan of real person fic either. While it has a long and proud history (see ancient Greece and Rome), it seems obtrusive and makes a lot of assumptions about a celebrity.

Wow, I seem to be sharing a lot of 'cool stories' today. Maybe it's because I'm dragging my feet on doing a sinkful of dishes.