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CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

I find the question of Merril and the Eluvian to be very interesting narratively, because it's literally impossible to understand or metagame. It could end up being the salvation of everyone or it could unleash some unspeakable horror. It could literally be anything. It's risk incarnate.


Exactly, this. I've always seen it as a bit of a Pandora's Box situation.


Aaand, I got top again. Alright, this time I'll share with you all a one-page comic that I thought was particularly beautiful. (I'm begging her to do more.) You'll probably need to click on it to read the text.

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Part of me sort of wants the Eluvian to lead to the Fade or something, but only because I have this irrational wish to see the Black City up close and exploring it. (A bad idea I know).

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I find the idea of it unleashing some unspeakable horror unlikely, to be honest, considering that so many people in the past have dealt with it seemingly without harm. The Arlathan elves must have known everything about it and what it does and where it leads to, Morrigan knew that it at least leads to some pocket dimension beyond the Fade - being the daughter of Flemeth, this is perhaps not so strange - and the magisters of the ancient Tevinter were so baffled by it that they could only use it to communicate across distances. I don't think Merrill would be able to achieve more than they did, to be honest. But who knows, perhaps it leads to even more pocket dimensions than the one Morrigan mentioned, perhaps some of the ancient elves managed to escape there.

However. I'm a little curious about the underground city that Tamlen mentioned - at first I thought it was part of the Deep Roads, since the caves become filled with darkspawn, but now I wonder. Arlathan was sunken into the ground, wasn't it? Could that be it? And why are the Mirrors filled with the Taint once they break? Perhaps there is a connection there. Between Arlathan and its Mirror and the creation of darkspawn, since it was in the Deep Roads they were first encountered.

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Just because there aren't enough rugged and realistic Anders and Hawke's out there, please enjoy this:

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Art courtesy of MilliBayley
It's an image from Rattsu's amazingly epic fanfic. Honestly, it's one of the best ones out there. The chapter this image is from is Here.

I like Anders, and I like when people talk about Anders. Seeing as how there are other threads for things that aren't related to him. Just saying.

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Can I post more Anders art instead of talking about him? Actually, I'll talk about him, too.

This is how I wished DA2 ended if you spared Anders and said you'd run with him...leaving Kirkwall behind and facing whatever it is that happens to be ahead. Also, doesn't Anders look pretty awesome in Malcolm's jacket? Slightly less like an "I'm a renegade mage!" sign than the feathered pauldrons...

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ElleMullineux wrote...
I like Anders, and I like when people talk about Anders. Seeing as how there are other threads for things that aren't related to him. Just saying.



Elle, this almost feels rude. I'm sure it wasn't meant to be such, but even still. The best part of this thread is that its denisens discuss all sorts of topics, even if the vast majority are related to Anders in some way, shape or form. Once and a while we go on a tangent about a non-world-related book, or a non-anders related character development, but it always eventually swings around to Anders. If you dislike the current turn in topics you could always try and relate it to Anders in some way, rather then strong-arm the topic.

Pretty much anything known to us about Thedas is fair game in this thread, because even if it doesn't directly relate to Anders, it has influence on how his character is shaped due to it being the world he's a part of.

If it wasn't, then this would be the Fenris(pr perhaps the Alistair) thread, where they have the same 5 discussions, a mound of squee, and irrational hostility to anyone who may attempt to argue a different point-of-view, even if they LIKE Fenris (or Alistair).



Also, *gives a cookie*

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@ellemullineux: That's a lovely picture. I like grungy-ness too. A lot of Anders art looks really good but doesn't have that same quality.

@SurelyForth: Do you know where I can find a pic of that jacket? Is that from the mage item pack or somethin'?

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@SurelyForth: Do you know where I can find a pic of that jacket? Is that from the mage item pack or somethin'?


Here's the reference used: link!

Those aren't the boots or gloves that go with it, though. And it is from  the mage pack.

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SurelyForth wrote...

beckaliz wrote...


@SurelyForth: Do you know where I can find a pic of that jacket? Is that from the mage item pack or somethin'?


Here's the reference used: link!


You rule. <3 I do like the idea of Anders wearing it.

I'm surprised nobody in-game is like hey that guy is wearing Tevinter feathery robes!! GET 'IM

Modifié par beckaliz, 14 juillet 2011 - 10:22 .


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I wish companions changed their outfits between acts.
Honestly... I mean its kind of weird to me a little bit .

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ElleMullineux wrote...



I like Anders, and I like when people talk about Anders. Seeing as how there are other threads for things that aren't related to him. Just saying.


Eh. Anders is interesting, but he's not so interesting that he is worth near 2000 pages of conversations exclusively about him without the thread getting dreary rather quickly. A few breaks now and then is healthy.

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beckaliz wrote...


@SurelyForth: Do you know where I can find a pic of that jacket? Is that from the mage item pack or somethin'?


Here's the reference used: link!

Those aren't the boots or gloves that go with it, though. And it is from  the mage pack.


Is the item pack available for PS3-users? I've never found it.

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Ah I can still hear the post:
THIS IS A SQUEE THREAD! GTFO IF YOU ARE NOT HERE TO SQUEE.

Sometimes I wake up at night screaming about that.
Or that could just be because I have nightmares about goldfish sometimes.

True story.

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Heidenreich wrote...

River5 wrote...

*You* feel old...  After having just said that "The Crow" was before your time, *you* feel old?!?!?!  :blink:

I was 13 when "The Crow" came out...  Just old enough to be intensely lusting after Brandon Lee!  Lol!

Now you're starting to make me feel like a grandma!  :crying:  Thanks!  ;)

Oh!  And the character's name is Eric Draven.  :P


I was 12 :P Just young enough to be oblivious to such worldly goings on! I was pretty sheltered, I didn't abandon my barbies in leu of Teen Bop till I was 14.:innocent:

Don't feel old, it's only a year <3


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Re: The Crow stuff
It came out when I was 10, but I'm not sure if I
saw it unil I was around 16 or 17. I never got to see a lot of intense
movies like that at that age... Happens when you're the oldest and no
older siblings to be watching stuff outside your age category. ;d

As
far as parallels with the movie and Anders go, well, the main character
does have a kind of death that turns into a rebirth that allows him to
go after, um, general badness and vengeance/ justice type ideals. A lot
of the Janders conversations on here have involved the idea that
"Anders" ceases to be to make way for "Janders". And for both of these
characters, they are able to accomplish things after this that they
would not have otherwise been able to before.


Lol!  I was an only child, with a (undiagnosed borderline) mother that thought it would be a good idea to be "best friends" with her kid; and what could probably be described as a co-dependant father (he basically let my mom do whatever the heck she liked with me).  So, I suppose that I may have been a bit precocious when it came to certain subjects; while clung to childhood when it came to others.

For example, I still own a collection of over 300 stuffed animals that are my pride and joy!  :P

But yeah, back to the Crow / Anders comparison, I like the way you're thinking becka.  Oooh...  And fans of Anders  / Karl can also imagine him seeking revenge for the death of his lover...  ;)

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

Ah I can still hear the post:
THIS IS A SQUEE THREAD! GTFO IF YOU ARE NOT HERE TO SQUEE.

Sometimes I wake up at night screaming about that.
Or that could just be because I have nightmares about goldfish sometimes.

True story.


Good times.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Ah I can still hear the post:
THIS IS A SQUEE THREAD! GTFO IF YOU ARE NOT HERE TO SQUEE.

Sometimes I wake up at night screaming about that.
Or that could just be because I have nightmares about goldfish sometimes.

True story.


Good times.

As the great Tuco once said:
"If you are going to squee, squee dont discuss"

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Is the item pack available for PS3-users? I've never found it.


According to the BW site it is! 

And I was just happy that Anders got more than just a pallette swap for his upgrade. I thought he'd be rocking the hobo look the entire game (just like Garrus' loyalty armor kept the gunship scars), but at least his second outfit was buttoned up.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Ah I can still hear the post:
THIS IS A SQUEE THREAD! GTFO IF YOU ARE NOT HERE TO SQUEE.

Sometimes I wake up at night screaming about that.
Or that could just be because I have nightmares about goldfish sometimes.

True story.


Good times.

As the great Tuco once said:
"If you are going to squee, squee dont discuss"



To be fair, the person who said that misread what we were saying and took it personally, due to similar experience in rl.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

To be fair, the person who said that misread what we were saying and took it personally, due to similar experience in rl.

In what, the Fenris thread? There are certainly more than a few squee-only people over there, lolololol

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You guys keep saying the word Crow, and it is not evoking in me the thoughts it should be, especially since Crow is my amoral troll character, and she is named after an entirely different Crow.

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(in-character she is really named for several historical native americans, because she was originally a Shadowrun Amerind, who are startlingly similar to the Dalish. She was also a physical adept, which is very similar to a spirit warrior, only she specialized in hand-to-hand rather than swords. The humanis policlub reminds me of the chantry, because it advocates the oppression of both those with magical powers and those of nonhuman descent. And there, we've brought it back to Anders!)

Actually, since the solution to a bunch of major problems in Shadowrun was to elect a Great Dragon president of the United States, maybe the solution to everything in Dragon Age is to get Flemeth appointed Divine. I think I just broke the universe.

I also still don't know what Flemeth is. Some have suggested she's an abomination like Anders, but I don't see it. She seems... to much one thing. There's also the theory that she's the Dread Wolf, but the Wolf was not a friend to the Dalish, and Flemeth seems to like and trust them. Maybe she softened over the centuries. She could also be just a dragon, but one uncorrupted by the taint somehow. At this point, I don't even bother to kill her in DA:O playthroughs. Things are more interesting if she looks kindly upon my Warden, too.

The thing that annoys me most about Anders in Dragon age is his lack of intellectual curiosity, compared to DA:A. In Awakenings he was all like "Velanna! Let's share magical knowledge!" and seemed fascinated by a lot of the more... interesting things you discovered. Now it's all close-minded assumptions and tevinter explosives. The Eluvian should have fascinated him... and yes, I do think there's a significant chance it links to the sunken city of the elves, and that that links to the blights and that there is oh so much to be learned. I may have to change Esk to my canon Hawke, since she's the only bloody person in all of Thedas who seems to have a scrap of intellectual curiosity left.

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ipgd wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

To be fair, the person who said that misread what we were saying and took it personally, due to similar experience in rl.

In what, the Fenris thread? There are certainly more than a few squee-only people over there, lolololol


No, it's in the Origins section.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

No, it's in the Origins section.

oic

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CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

The thing that annoys me most about Anders in Dragon age is his lack of intellectual curiosity, compared to DA:A. In Awakenings he was all like "Velanna! Let's share magical knowledge!" and seemed fascinated by a lot of the more... interesting things you discovered. Now it's all close-minded assumptions and tevinter explosives. The Eluvian should have fascinated him... and yes, I do think there's a significant chance it links to the sunken city of the elves, and that that links to the blights and that there is oh so much to be learned. I may have to change Esk to my canon Hawke, since she's the only bloody person in all of Thedas who seems to have a scrap of intellectual curiosity left.


It probably scares the **** out of him. An ancient magic mirror being repaired with the help of a demon? Especially if he knows anything about Tamlen/Mahariel (either because of the Dalish Warden or because Hawke relayed Merrill's story).

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Crow Hawke hehehehe. She'll kill me now won't she.

.........

Random comment: Anders's haircut is my favorite haircut on a guy. <3 The half-ponytail. Though maybe a little longer than they have it on him. :3

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beckaliz wrote...
Random comment: Anders's haircut is my favorite haircut on a guy. <3 The half-ponytail. Though maybe a little longer than they have it on him. :3


Like Xanatos'?

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I also still don't know what Flemeth is. Some have suggested she's an abomination like Anders, but I don't see it. She seems... to much one thing. There's also the theory that she's the Dread Wolf, but the Wolf was not a friend to the Dalish, and Flemeth seems to like and trust them. Maybe she softened over the centuries. She could also be just a dragon, but one uncorrupted by the taint somehow. At this point, I don't even bother to kill her in DA:O playthroughs. Things are more interesting if she looks kindly upon my Warden, too. 


I've read one suggestion saying that she is Dumat/Dumat-reborn-as-Andraste. Mostly because Andraste with her amazing superpowers came exactly 26 years after Dumat was slain. Which... I don't know. As likely an explanation as any, I suppose.

The thing that annoys me most about Anders in Dragon age is his lack of intellectual curiosity, compared to DA:A. In Awakenings he was all like "Velanna! Let's share magical knowledge!" and seemed fascinated by a lot of the more... interesting things you discovered. Now it's all close-minded assumptions and tevinter explosives. The Eluvian should have fascinated him... and yes, I do think there's a significant chance it links to the sunken city of the elves, and that that links to the blights and that there is oh so much to be learned. I may have to change Esk to my canon Hawke, since she's the only bloody person in all of Thedas who seems to have a scrap of intellectual curiosity left.


There, there, Esk is not alone. My Hawke is the same way. Only that she doesn't exist in your Hawke's universe, so it does very little to help :P But the possible connection between Arlathan and the Taint is interesting. Maybe I'll open a speculation thread. If a brief moment of being non-lazy should occur, that is.