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[beckaliz]

 Ok, my prompt response is up. :innocent: 



Oh crap. Top.

Here, since my prompt response is about these two.


by Yami

Modifié par beckaliz, 19 juillet 2011 - 05:24 .

[Sialater]

How have my fellow Anderstians been doing while I've been frolicking amongst the stars with Team Milky Way?

[Giggles_Manically]

Swimmingly.

[Sialater]

Ah! I see you still have your floaties on, too!

[beckaliz]

More quiet since Dance With Dragons came out. Though that could be coincidence.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

I need to go back over to Team Milky Way, though right now I don't have the brain. I'm trying to negotiate a job offer while reading Game of Thrones to distract myself from the stress while waiting for responses (I've gotten to the part in book two where my favorite character does something facepalmworthy. It hurt to read it the first time, and it hurts more now. Yes, you are a child and yes, you realize your folly but oh how different these books would be if you didn't make that one mistake.)

All this "Anders puts his cause over his own relationships" talk makes me realize how similar my Mahariel was to Anders on that front. She lacked the self hatred and bipolar and gunpowder, but she had the crusade (elf freedom!), and sacrificed hope of a happy relationship and a future for it (Alistair). Especially in my first playthrough, where I didn't know anything about hardening Alistair, so I was just nice to him. Alistair was the best human Mahariel had ever met, so when she had a chance to choose a human king, why not pick the best human? What are two broken hearts when weighed against a kind, just, elf-sympathetic King of Ferelden?

I was introduced to the whole "you may have to sacrifice your love to finish your quest" thing very early, now that I think of it. The Last Unicorn was my favorite animated movie when I was growing up, and in the end that's exactly what happens.

"My people are in the world again. No sorrow will live in my heart as long as that joy - save one, and I thank you for that, too."

Looking at this quote page, this Schmendrick quote stands out to me as well, for entirely different reasons: 

"But there are wizards and wizards; there is black magic and white magic, and the infinite shades of gray between — and I see now that it is all the same. Whether I decide to be what men would call a wise and good magician — aiding heroes, thwarting witches, wicked lords, and unreasonable parents; making rain, curing woolsorter's disease and the mad staggers, getting cats down from trees — or whether I choose the retorts full of elixirs and essences, the powders and herbs and banes, the padlocked books of gramarye bound in skins better left unnamed, the muddy mist darkening in the chamber and the sweet voice lisping therein — why, life is short, and how many can I help or harm? I have my power at last, but the world is still too heavy for me to move, though my friend Lír might think otherwise."

This is what gets me about Anders. Can the greatest and most powerful healer, working at his clinic day and night until he dies, truly make any real difference in the world? No man can do as much good as the one who truly changes the world, and what man has that much magic? One of my primary theories as to why Anders stays in Kirkwall is that Justice can see something there... a potential for a small act to cause huge ripples, a lever that can be pulled to topple a statue, the weak link in the chain of apathy and ennui. The fade is weak there, yes, but the fade is a place where moving the world, changing the world isn't just possible, it's inevitable, and Justice can feel a similar potential for change here, waiting for someone to push the candy-red button. It's the ability to see a chance and take it that gives Anders a power to move the world that no mere magic would have ever given him, light or dark.

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 19 juillet 2011 - 09:41 .

[Sialater]

That's.... incredibly melancholy, CGC.

[YamiSnuffles]

@Sia- I see you updated Loved. I haven't gotten a chance to read it yet, but I love you for this. I have been hankering so bad for some good Garrus and Shepard fic.

Oh, um... and Anders. He's a... guy. With a thirst for revenge, just like Garrus is sometimes. See! I'm on topic.

[Jean]

Anders is totes the one with flexibility.

[River5]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

This is what gets me about Anders. Can the greatest and most powerful healer, working at his clinic day and night until he dies, truly make any real difference in the world? No man can do as much good as the one who truly changes the world, and what man has that much magic? One of my primary theories as to why Anders stays in Kirkwall is that Justice can see something there... a potential for a small act to cause huge ripples, a lever that can be pulled to topple a statue, the weak link in the chain of apathy and ennui. The fade is weak there, yes, but the fade is a place where moving the world, changing the world isn't just possible, it's inevitable, and Justice can feel a similar potential for change here, waiting for someone to push the candy-red button. It's the ability to see a chance and take it that gives Anders a power to move the world that no mere magic would have ever given him, light or dark.

Yes, Justice and his big red "reset" button...    Lol!  I find myself quite in agreement with that theory.

[River5]

Batteries wrote...

Anders is totes the one with flexibility.

In my latest game, Anders was the one that had reach...  A bit too much reach that is...    See (and hopefully UNSEE) at your own risks...  thelostgirl21.deviantart.com/gallery/30937746#/d3j889m

[beckaliz]

Except Garrus can be persuaded out of it. Anders is quite a bit more motivated. :B Oh those devoted men!

[beckaliz]

@River: omfg. XD That's... pretty epic.

[Jean]

I'm more amused at that Darkspawn hand going straight through his gut.

[River5]

Batteries wrote...

I'm more amused at that Darkspawn hand going straight through his gut.

There is indeed an impressive amount of foreign objects penetrating solid matter in this single screenshot...    And no Fenris!  Implausible!

[YamiSnuffles]

River5 wrote...

Batteries wrote...

Anders is totes the one with flexibility.

In my latest game, Anders was the one that had reach...  A bit too much reach that is...    See (and hopefully UNSEE) at your own risks...  thelostgirl21.deviantart.com/gallery/30937746#/d3j889m

That picture is killing me. I am dead.  x_x

[River5]

YamiSnuffles wrote...

That picture is killing me. I am dead.  x_x

*Casts Revival*

Yami are you okay?
So, Yami are you okay?
Are you okay, Yami?

[LT123]

River5 wrote...

Batteries wrote...

Anders is totes the one with flexibility.

In my latest game, Anders was the one that had reach...  A bit too much reach that is...    See (and hopefully UNSEE) at your own risks...  thelostgirl21.deviantart.com/gallery/30937746#/d3j889m

Well, now I'm afraid to look.

Now I'm trying to think of other "sacrifice love for quest" moments in literature (other than the Last Unicorn, which I love and finally bought) and games, and all I can think of is the Elfstones of Shannara. Oh, and Final Fantasy Adventure. Bah. Must think!

[PseudoEthnic]

I finally finished the game with Anders as my love interest, and I have to say that it was damn good. The only criticism that I have(besides, again, the cheesy dialogue) was that there was no final kiss before the big battle. I loved the final speech he made, but I wish there was more(that can be said about the whole game really.) I would make Anders my canon romance, but I'm not into men. So, my Lady Hawke can have Anders while my canon Hawke will have Merrill.

[Jean]

I am more content with there being no kiss.

[SurelyForth]

PseudoEthnic wrote...

I finally finished the game with Anders as my love interest, and I have to say that it was damn good. The only criticism that I have(besides, again, the cheesy dialogue) was that there was no final kiss before the big battle. I loved the final speech he made, but I wish there was more(that can be said about the whole game really.) I would make Anders my canon romance, but I'm not into men. So, my Lady Hawke can have Anders while my canon Hawke will have Merrill.

If you rival him and side with the templars you get a kiss!

And then he probably kills himself. 

A lot of us agree that the kiss for a pro-mage ending would need to be something Hawke could initiate, considering the circumstances. Like Batteries, I'm ok with there being no kiss. 

Modifié par SurelyForth, 20 juillet 2011 - 01:09 .

[sagefic]

Sia! So here's where you've been when you're not around the Kaidanites. Hi!

So I got DA2 - steam summer sale - tried the Andersmance for 1st playthrough and - gah! Just had to stop into his fanthread to say EXCELLENT story there. Wow. I ended up with 2 endings for my femhawke - one where she decides to leave him and one where she decides not to. Can't decide which will be the 'canon' for that way-too-honorable-lady-mage.

So yeah, my sadness was that there was no final-battle nooky, and it was also strange to me that whether femhawke stays or goes, we're told 'anders stayed with her.' I'm wondering if this new DLC will shed any light on this. 

Anyhow, just thought I'd stop by and say hi, enjoyed the Anders story very much. It sort of bums me out that it ended so...sad. I completely understand his point of view, even as I personally (me the player) could not condone his decisions. Still not sure if my femhawke can. But that's good writing right there, imo.

anyhow, hi. go anders. save the mages.

Modifié par sagequeen, 20 juillet 2011 - 01:13 .

[SurelyForth]

@sagequeen Regarding Anders staying even if Hawke ends the relationship, apparently that's a glitch.

But I'll pretend that Anders just can't let go...Hawke is who he's meant to be with and even if she's not allowing a relationship to happen, he stays with her as long as she'll have him.

[leggywillow]

SurelyForth wrote...

@sagequeen Regarding Anders staying even if Hawke ends the relationship, apparently that's a glitch.

But I'll pretend that Anders just can't let go...Hawke is who he's meant to be with and even if she's not allowing a relationship to happen, he stays with her as long as she'll have him.

It's a little more disturbing when it's his dead corpse following Hawke around.  Anders would haunt Hawke, I suppose.

[sagefic]

SurelyForth wrote...

@sagequeen Regarding Anders staying even if Hawke ends the relationship, apparently that's a glitch.

But I'll pretend that Anders just can't let go...Hawke is who he's meant to be with and even if she's not allowing a relationship to happen, he stays with her as long as she'll have him.

lol, i'll buy that! in fact, i think if there ever is a DLC that continues this story with current characters (though that doesn't exactly seem to be a consistent BW trend), i'll import my 'staying with' one and pretend that's what happened. i figure if you have to flee the city, you have some time to talk things out afterward. what a convo that would be...

also, this is a very nice blog. thanks for that. very fun reading (now that i'm past the major spoilers part). is good stuff.