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[Evilnor]

We're not ALL hopelessly romantic Anders friendmancing fangirls here . . . granted, I prefer the ending where he lives and my Hawke runs away to be apostate fugitives together with him, but I was severely close to killing him. I almost cried when I spared him, actually, because I knew by that point he was ready to die.

Even my aggro!Hawke who was everyone's rival couldn't kill him on the spot, but didn't shed a tear when Anders appeared to bar the way to killing all the mage children and the psycho Orsino. Poor Anders got what he wanted, after all . . .

You hear "Poor Anders" a lot around here.

Edit: what an uninteresting ToP.  Have a cute manifesto-reading Anders to make up for it.

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Modifié par Evilnor, 24 juillet 2011 - 03:45 .

[beckaliz]

tommyt_1994 wrote...

Hey Anders thread. First time poster here.

**snip good example of expressing a personal opinion**

Hiiiieee first time poster! *wavewave*

Don't worry, there are ALL KINDS of opinions in here, and people are very accepting of that. Did you end up siding with the Templars or the Mages?

I also killed Anders on my first PT--on a mage-supporting friendmance no less!--and sided with the Templars because I felt it was the best way that I could save Bethany. Plus I felt the Kirkwall mages were all psycho and didn't want to risk my hide to defend blood mages.

Modifié par beckaliz, 24 juillet 2011 - 03:46 .

[tommyt_1994]

I was just being precautions, I know how some unpopular opinions are "welcomed" on BSN and I didn't want to give off the wrong impression.

So as to not make a post completely off-topic, I'll post a query that I'm curious about that could spark some on-topic conversation.

Do you guys think Anders will be more stable after blowing up the Chantry? Or do you expect him to repeat a similar pattern? Or maybe something else entirely.

[Evilnor]

Omg, I just saw this and it's perfect. Ever wonder about Meredith's increasing paranoia? This is totally it.


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tommyt_1994 wrote...

I understand that my opinion is not popular here but please do not confuse this post as trolling. (I don't know what this thread is like, this is just precautionary)

This is the thread where trolls are repeatedly shocked to discover we basically agree with them.

[tommyt_1994]

beckaliz wrote...

tommyt_1994 wrote...

Hey Anders thread. First time poster here.

**snip good example of expressing a personal opinion**

Hiiiieee first time poster! *wavewave*

Don't worry, there are ALL KINDS of opinions in here, and people are very accepting of that. Did you end up siding with the Templars or the Mages?

I also killed Anders on my first PT--on a mage-supporting friendmance no less!--and sided with the Templars because I felt it was the best way that I could save Bethany. Plus I felt the Kirkwall mages were all psycho and didn't want to risk my hide to defend blood mages.

On my first run, I sided with the mages, but when I replay and perfect that run I think I may side with the Templars. I'm still torn on that topic. Ultimately I feel there is no right answer to that final question, mages or templars, but I love how Anders' involvment as one of my Hawke's friends (even if I rival him) makes the decision even more difficult. 

And hello!

Nice to know that this thread is different than many others here on BSN. 

Modifié par tommyt_1994, 24 juillet 2011 - 03:53 .

[SurelyForth]

tommyt_1994 wrote...

Do you guys think Anders will be more stable after blowing up the Chantry? Or do you expect him to repeat a similar pattern? Or maybe something else entirely.

All this is assuming that he was Friendmanced.

I think that getting him away from Kirkwall and at least giving him the illusion that you're working towards the cause will help him immensely. I'm of the mind that Kirkwall is as much to blame for his mental state in Act 3 as his possession. It's a worst case scenario for him, a hopeless deadlock and he's living on top of a Hellmouth. Having kicked the door open, having gained the support of the person he cares most about, I can't help but think he'll go back to a more Act 2 state of being. He'll still be paranoid, obsessive and bi-polar, but hopefully with less drastic swings between extremes. 

[legbamel]

I'll second what igpd said. I've seen trolls come in here and post that Anders is insane and should be killed and some of us write, "Yup," and then we discuss rival vs. friend paths and how separate Anders and Justice are and whether the underwear shrines he building for Hawke include all her panties or some of his own. Dive on in!

[berelinde]

To clarify my earlier post, no one is going to argue with you about killing Anders because justice or your conscience demanded it. I, personally, might quibble with the idea of killing him because he's lost Hawke's trust, if only because doing so for that reason alone is a bit excessive, but that usually isn't the only reason.

[Sinaxi]

tommyt_1994 wrote...

I was just being precautions, I know how some unpopular opinions are "welcomed" on BSN and I didn't want to give off the wrong impression.

So as to not make a post completely off-topic, I'll post a query that I'm curious about that could spark some on-topic conversation.

Do you guys think Anders will be more stable after blowing up the Chantry? Or do you expect him to repeat a similar pattern? Or maybe something else entirely.

I have thought about that. Honestly, I'm not really sure (obviously since I don't write Anders) but...imo I just can't really see him pulling something that big again. He already did what he wanted, he effectively created a situation where people were forced to stop "playing" at being neutral and choose sides and therefore created a war that has been going on for 3 years. So, no, I don't really see why it would be at all necessary for him to do that again. I do believe he would want to be actively involved in this war though, which is why I really do hope we find out what happens with his character (if the PC chose to leave him alive) and what he has been doing. If he thought it was necessary to do something like that again though, then yeah I think he would...but it would probably be a more concentrated attack (I would hope) without as much potential for civilian casualities.

As far as being more stable...I would like to say...yes? but tbh, there's no way to know. He appears to be relatively fine at the end of DA2 on friendship path, like he is ready for what is to come...but he does show remorse for what he did and I have a feeling it would end up hitting him even harder after they left Kirkwall. It's something he will have to live with for the rest of his life, and that is a worse fate than even death. But I think that since he is the one that pretty much put all of this into action, it is a total cop-out to just let him accept death. If you wanted a war, Anders, you are damn well sticking around to fight it. That's how I see it. So in a way, yes, I think he would be more stable - because he has FINALLY gained at least some ground on what he hopes to accomplish in the long run. 

[beckaliz]

Anyone have that panty cat pic saved? I think the artist was the one that got dAramatic and deleted her dA account.

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legbamel wrote...

I'll second what igpd said. I've seen trolls come in here and post that Anders is insane and should be killed and some of us write, "Yup," and then we discuss rival vs. friend paths and how separate Anders and Justice are and whether the underwear shrines he building for Hawke include all her panties or some of his own. Dive on in!

"ANDERS IS A CRAZY MURDEROUS TERRORIST"
"ikr isn't it great :D"

[legbamel]

This one?

from here

[beckaliz]

@legbamel Yeeessss that's the one. ... But yeah, it's a personal decision and I understand and can accept it, but I'm just disappointed that the dA account was removed completely, rather than just leaving stuff up and not logging in ever again.

btw I am going to the coffee shop in the morning and will do that thing for you. Cullen yaaaay!

[Jean]

So, theoretically speaking, if Anders lived in our world, what kind of vehicle do you think he'd drive?

[legbamel]

beckaliz wrote...
@legbamel Yeeessss that's the one. ... But yeah, it's a personal decision and I understand and can accept it, but I'm just disappointed that the dA account was removed completely, rather than just leaving stuff up and not logging in ever again.

btw I am going to the coffee shop in the morning and will do that thing for you. Cullen yaaaay!

[off-topic happy dance]

As for whether Anders would be more stable after bombing the Chantry, I would think the answer would be yes only if he stays active in "the cause".  If Hawke tried to get him into hiding somewhere he'd tear his skin off in frustration in about a week.

[SurelyForth]

Batteries wrote...

So, theoretically speaking, if Anders lived in our world, what kind of vehicle do you think he'd drive?

A Subaru?

That was literally the first thing that popped into my head...followed by a custom painted VW bus with Hello,Kitty fuzzy dice hanging from the rearview mirror. 

[berelinde]

Batteries wrote...

So, theoretically speaking, if Anders lived in our world, what kind of vehicle do you think he'd drive?

Something he bought for $200 and his beat-up electric guitar. It would be held together with body putty and good intentions and he would fuel it with quarters found under the sofa. Either that, or it would be a junk car he rebuilt himself. What's the use in being a mage if you can't fix your own wheels?

[Evilnor]

SurelyForth wrote...

Batteries wrote...

So, theoretically speaking, if Anders lived in our world, what kind of vehicle do you think he'd drive?

A Subaru?

That was literally the first thing that popped into my head...followed by a custom painted VW bus with Hello,Kitty fuzzy dice hanging from the rearview mirror. 

I'm leaning towards more of an 80's station wagon or some sort of contradiction at war with itself like a hybrid SUV.  The VW bus is a good one, though.  Rainbow fuzzy dice are a must for whatever he drives, though.

I did have a dream once where he was driving a Gremlin, though.

[beckaliz]

Batteries wrote...

So, theoretically speaking, if Anders lived in our world, what kind of vehicle do you think he'd drive?

I know someone with an old Honda Accord that is barely running, makes clunky noises, and the back panels (possibly even the whole back half of the frame) is held on with long metal pieces that are bolted in place just above the wheel wells.

Modifié par beckaliz, 24 juillet 2011 - 04:40 .

[legbamel]

I'm definitely on-board with Anders in a VW bus, hand-painted cat on the door, fuzzy dice in rainbow colors, and lute in the back.

[SurelyForth]

beckaliz wrote...

Batteries wrote...

So, theoretically speaking, if Anders lived in our world, what kind of vehicle do you think he'd drive?

I know someone with an old Honda Accord that is barely running, makes clunky noises, and the back panels (possibly even the whole back half of the frame) is held on with long metal pieces that are bolted in place just above the wheel wells.

*wonders if we've met before* Actually, I had to get rid of that car when the trunk popped off.

And this conversation is moot. Anders either drives a classic Harley or he's never gotten his license because it's too easy for the government to track you, and he could never afford a vehicle anyway and, besides, his good buddy Hawke will chauffer his handsome hobo butt around, and even let him listen to crazypants AM radio. 

[Evilnor]

SurelyForth wrote...

beckaliz wrote...

Batteries wrote...

So, theoretically speaking, if Anders lived in our world, what kind of vehicle do you think he'd drive?

I know someone with an old Honda Accord that is barely running, makes clunky noises, and the back panels (possibly even the whole back half of the frame) is held on with long metal pieces that are bolted in place just above the wheel wells.

*wonders if we've met before* Actually, I had to get rid of that car when the trunk popped off.

And this conversation is moot. Anders either drives a classic Harley or he's never gotten his license because it's too easy for the government to track you, and he could never afford a vehicle anyway and, besides, his good buddy Hawke will chauffer his handsome hobo butt around, and even let him listen to crazypants AM radio. 

And here I thought the radio would be his HAM radio so he can listen to the static for propoganda from "the man" while Hawke's trying to get him out of the house to go to concerts and stuff.  He'd totally be a conspiracy theorist like Mel Gibson.  Someone needs to photoshop Anders in a tinfoil hat.

[Jean]

I dunno. I can kinda see him whizzing around San Francisco on a moped. Authorities would have to go through most the town already filled of weird people before they'd find him.

[beckaliz]

SurelyForth wrote...

beckaliz wrote...
*wonders if we've met before* Actually, I had to get rid of that car when the trunk popped off.

And this conversation is moot. Anders either drives a classic Harley or he's never gotten his license because it's too easy for the government to track you, and he could never afford a vehicle anyway and, besides, his good buddy Hawke will chauffer his handsome hobo butt around, and even let him listen to crazypants AM radio. 

Haha, really? Nah this person is pretty young, and simply isn't smart enough to write even half as well as you do. *cough* Not to be making disparaging comments about people I barely know, mind you. I'm sure she's a... lovely girl. (*coughfurrycough*)

You know, I think I like the Harley idea. It's got to be an old one, though. Something that he found from one of those papers with the little phone number tags at the bottom that you see posted up in small town grocery store foyers.

Here is a picture that represents your other idea fairly well, of that type of Anders.


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Modifié par beckaliz, 24 juillet 2011 - 05:00 .