The Anders Thread: Flash Fic Contest! Details on Pg. 2274
#50951
Posté 08 août 2011 - 09:06
How the hell do you do that?
Save every 10 seconds?
#50952
Posté 08 août 2011 - 09:34
Let's hope that turns out to be the case!Haradmir wrote...
Once I get my new laptop in a couple weeks though, hopefully that won't be a problem.
How do you manage to get that many saves? It seems as if my computer will only keep the 25 most recent saves. If I want any older than that, I have to move them to a different folder.
I'm bad, though. I don't save that often at all, mostly just at the end of a gaming session. I do use FRAPS to record all dialogues, cutscenes, and tricky combat, though. Fiance likes to talk to me while dialogue is playing, so I tend to just let him talk and then go back and play the dialogue again later, after he's done talking. Saves a lot of anxiety about "Dammit, dearie, you know I can't pause dialogue."
#50953
Posté 08 août 2011 - 09:34
"Ayeee!!!"AstraDrakkar wrote...
Leah.C wrote...
Personally, I think a kitten stampede is a much more effective method of dragonslaying.
I hereby demand that a kitten stampede be initiated by Anders in the next DLC!
All those in favor say "Aye".![]()
I'm logging in from smartphone because I missed reading this thread so much -B
ut, as you may see, it's a pain in the ass to write or type with this thing...
Special thanks and a whole lot of love to Hepler: you did an impressive, emotional job as for cheAracters and personal relationships. More and more pages to come.
P.S.: No, can't undo the typos.
#50954
Guest_Brodyaha_*
Posté 08 août 2011 - 09:45
Guest_Brodyaha_*
Jennifer Brandes Hepler wrote...
I always felt that thing about rivalry relationships in DA (for everyone, but particularly Anders) is that they're all talk, no action, and that's why they're still a form of relationship instead of the termination of that relationship. Gaining rivalry points with Fenris is a very different thing than actually turning him over to Danarius. When you are earning rivalry points, it means you are still loyal to the character, and they are still loyal to you, despite your disagreements.
When I wrote rival Hawke, I was imagining her gnashing her teeth in frustration that Anders can't see the mess he's made of his life, and he's just as frustrated that she can't see that he's in the right about it. She tries to shock him out of his acceptance of what he's become to force him to see that Justice has corrupted him (and ultimately succeeds when they split sufficiently for Justice to just take over and do the bombing, albeit not in a way that ends up benefiting anyone). Anders, for his part, recognizes that for all that Hawke says, she's saying it out of concern for him, since if she really just saw him as unsaveable, she would turn him over to the templars. It's certainly not a healthy relationship, but it's definitely a dynamic that exists in real life (granted, in real life, they've usually had time to build a foundation of that relationship *before* the crazy starts, but I thought it was at least a dynamic some people would relate to).
P.S. I love that 2000+ pages later, you guys are still actually talking about the character. Thanks for all the love.
And I love how you, as Anders'/Sebastian's writer, actually pop in to their fan threads and discuss the characters with the fans.
Thank you! <3
#50955
Posté 08 août 2011 - 10:20
a least once a minute, loooool.Giggles_Manically wrote...
Wow ipgd I though I was bad.
How the hell do you do that?
Save every 10 seconds?
#50956
Posté 08 août 2011 - 10:40
Anders in Regency
by YamiSnuffles
Modifié par Hilde, 08 août 2011 - 10:41 .
#50957
Posté 08 août 2011 - 11:16
#50958
Posté 09 août 2011 - 01:05
#50959
Posté 09 août 2011 - 01:30
You don't know how excited I am to soon be able to play DA on something higher than the lowest settings possible.berelinde wrote...
Let's hope that turns out to be the case!Haradmir wrote...
Once I get my new laptop in a couple weeks though, hopefully that won't be a problem.
How do you manage to get that many saves? It seems as if my computer will only keep the 25 most recent saves. If I want any older than that, I have to move them to a different folder.
I'm bad, though. I don't save that often at all, mostly just at the end of a gaming session. I do use FRAPS to record all dialogues, cutscenes, and tricky combat, though. Fiance likes to talk to me while dialogue is playing, so I tend to just let him talk and then go back and play the dialogue again later, after he's done talking. Saves a lot of anxiety about "Dammit, dearie, you know I can't pause dialogue."
They aren't unique saves...no way I can afford to use all that memory on here. o_o I have checkpoints where I create new saves, before certain events or scenes for example, and once I get far enough I start saving over the oldest saves. At most I have something-in-the-low-20's...of seperate saves.
Nice save. I've turned the subtitles on so I can at least read the dialogue in case anyone comes in and starts talking to me during a cutscene. Sorta rude, but.....
...yeah, I don't have an excuse for that. I'll go download FRAPS now and stop feeling horrible.
#50960
Posté 09 août 2011 - 01:39
Amondra wrote...
I just had to drop in and share this! A commission I had done of Thera and Anders by Thesilverraven on DA! It is so beautiful! I am still swooning over it.
I love that image, but it's making me all kinds of despressed. >_>
#50961
Posté 09 août 2011 - 01:49

ROFL. WTF. Wowww. That's not exactly how I pictured that but...that's funny.
#50962
Posté 09 août 2011 - 01:52
Fluffenstein wrote...
Amondra wrote...
I just had to drop in and share this! A commission I had done of Thera and Anders by Thesilverraven on DA! It is so beautiful! I am still swooning over it.
I love that image, but it's making me all kinds of despressed. >_>
Don't worry no mirror's were harmed in that commission
In seriousness I know what you mean, but I think it hits Thera's and Anders relationship on the head.
#50963
Posté 09 août 2011 - 01:53
Tidra wrote...
ROFL. WTF. Wowww. That's not exactly how I pictured that but...that's funny.
LOL that is one of the cpreepiest things ever...
#50964
Posté 09 août 2011 - 01:55
It's absolutely wonderful, having the luxury of replaying dialogue. But if you're going to try it, you should be aware that FRAPS does consume system resources. Not much, but some. If your system is struggling to run DA2 without crashing as it is, you might have more crashes with FRAPS. As a general rule, if you can run DA2 with other programs running in the background like an email program that updates when you get a new message, you can probably run FRAPS. The free version is great, but you can only record 2 minute segments at a time. I broke down and spent the $25 to register it.Haradmir wrote...
...yeah, I don't have an excuse for that. I'll go download FRAPS now and stop feeling horrible.
#50965
Posté 09 août 2011 - 01:56
In actuality, I always pictured it as more of a restless sleep where his mind would just inevitably wander to Hawke and stay there to the point where it started to drive him freaking nuts.
But I'm also super weird and think that line is sort of sweet...don't judge me for liking stalker obsessive lines. >.< Hahaha.
#50966
Posté 09 août 2011 - 02:10
Or you could not flirt with him in Act 1 and woo him in Act 2, in which case the whole aching for three years is almost brilliantly creepy.
Modifié par SurelyForth, 09 août 2011 - 02:15 .
#50967
Posté 09 août 2011 - 02:14
@Surely: Three years looking for that quick release! Three years! My Hawke was clearly a bit dense. I have a feeling if she walked into the clinic naked with a kitten it wouldn't have taken that long...
#50968
Posté 09 août 2011 - 02:18
SurelyForth wrote...
Well, one thing to consider: If Hawke flirts with him in Act 1 and doesn't pursue anyone else, chances are that they're still fairly close during the time skip and, ostensibly, in some sort of like with each other. You can roleplay it as being a sort of hands off friendmance where thesexual frustrationaching is less about Anders being creepy and more about the fact that Hawke is maybe pushing buttons on purpose in the hopes of find the quick-release on the chastity robes. So to speak.
Or you could not flirt with him in Act 1 and woo him in Act 2, in which case the whole aching or three years is almost brilliantly creepy. I
Oh, no..that's completely how I have always seen it. I don't think it's really creepy at all, but I know some people probably think that line sounds all stalkerish haha. I still think it is sort of cute. I think Anders just grows to adore Hawke even more over those 3 years and Hawke is probably either not wanting to push it because she's not sure he will ever do anything about it so they are just really close friends...or is completely and totally evil and loves to push his buttons. Or a bit of both. I like thinking it's a bit of both. Since I can see that really close friendship, and Hawke just being a total minx towards Anders at times in hopes that he will just admit he wants her. Which leads Anders to being all "aogehoaughea why do you torment and tempt me, woman?!?!" Lol
#50969
Posté 09 août 2011 - 02:25
Tidra wrote...
While it is a hard concept to really grasp, on
rivalry these people are still technically "your friends"...since they
are still remaining loyal to you despite disagreeing with your decisions
or what you say to them, etc. (which yeah, I think is dumb but that's
just how the game is) He becomes consumed with trying to prove to Hawke
that he isn't controlled by Justice, and all the while Hawke keeps going
"yes you are, yes you are...do something about it." He has no actual
support system, and this leads him into a depression where he is
desperately trying to prove everyone wrong so he tries extremely hard to
fight against Justice and what he has become.
I completely grasp the concept that rivalry doesn't mean your enemies and that you can even be friends. But the way rivaly is presented in this game is that you don't support Anders cause, not so much that your getting on his case about how Justice makes him a monster. With no support for his cause from anyone, except maybe Merrill who he thinks is part of the problem, I don't see him pushing Justice away. I see him thinking "I'm in this fight alone" so he only further embraces Justice's antics, if he does that, Justice wouldn't need to explode out of him, because Anders would do these things on his own at that point. I don't think he loses control because he is fighting Justice, I think he loses control because he doesn't know what he wants.
But with someone supporting his cause, but also actively telling him, he cant just do whatever he wants like say killing Ella, he would see that he can accomplish this without relying on Justice. So he would move away from it, of course that would be a struggle as Justice would try to push back and be more extreme and who knows how that would turn out. But I think a supported Anders would have more reason to not rely on Justice influenced actions. I think if he settled on what he wanted to be, either way, I think he would have more control over Justice.
#50970
Posté 09 août 2011 - 02:30
SurelyForth wrote...
Well, one thing to consider: If Hawke flirts with him in Act 1 and doesn't pursue anyone else, chances are that they're still fairly close during the time skip and, ostensibly, in some sort of like with each other. You can roleplay it as being a hands off friendmance where thesexual frustrationaching is less about Anders being creepy and more about the fact that Hawke is maybe pushing buttons on purpose in the hopes of finding the quick-release on the chastity robes. So to speak.
This is about how I imagine my canon Hawke's relationship with Anders pre-romantic relationship. She flirts with him in the hopes of saying just the right thing or saying something at just the right time to move things out of the Anders (*cough* Justice) enforced limbo. She doesn't constantly tease him, or anything. Usually they get along as close- albeit tense- friends. But every so often she gets sick of being just friends and she gets the distinct feeling that Anders is sick of it too.
Unfortunately she can't find that damnable quick-release button and she's too polite to just cut his robes off with her giant sword to see where things go from there.
Modifié par YamiSnuffles, 09 août 2011 - 02:34 .
#50971
Posté 09 août 2011 - 02:30
Both times Anders can get really assertive/aggressive with Hawke are right after Justice freak-outs. First, near the beginning, after Justice takes over during Tranquility and he kills Karl after, he can get very aggressively flirty with Hawke. And then, again in Act 2, after Dissent when Justice takes over and contributes to him either killing or nearly killing Ella -- if you're pursuing a romance path that's when he gives in.
It seems like those are the times when he's both most vulnerable and most desperate to assert his own independence over Justice. The rest of the time in-between those two events he seems to try to hold Hawke at arm's length. Even when it's implied Hawke's been goading him on the whole time.
#50972
Posté 09 août 2011 - 02:43
Leah.C wrote...
Something else I noticed and never really thought about before, and maybe it's complete poppycock, but it's a thought I had anyway:
Both times Anders can get really assertive/aggressive with Hawke are right after Justice freak-outs. First, near the beginning, after Justice takes over during Tranquility and he kills Karl after, he can get very aggressively flirty with Hawke. And then, again in Act 2, after Dissent when Justice takes over and contributes to him either killing or nearly killing Ella -- if you're pursuing a romance path that's when he gives in.
It seems like those are the times when he's both most vulnerable and most desperate to assert his own independence over Justice. The rest of the time in-between those two events he seems to try to hold Hawke at arm's length. Even when it's implied Hawke's been goading him on the whole time.
See, I think it's more a realization that Hawke knows what he is and is sticking around and it pushes him closer to the edge of his control because it means that much to him.
In my headcanon, the reason he waits until after Dissent is because he wants to make sure Hawke knows exactly what she's getting into. He knows she admires him for his selflessness, and she shares his views on mage freedom, but he also knows he has a side to him that can rage murder templars and Wardens. Until he feels like she's seen him at his worst, he's going to keep her at arm's length (theoretically, at least). After Dissent, if she's still around after he kills/almost kills Ella, he realizes that nothing will dissuade her at this point and he's sick of not being with someone who would look past the worst of him and still want a relationship/life with him.
Or, um, something like that.
#50973
Posté 09 août 2011 - 02:50
SurelyForth wrote...
Leah.C wrote...
Something else I noticed and never really thought about before, and maybe it's complete poppycock, but it's a thought I had anyway:
Both times Anders can get really assertive/aggressive with Hawke are right after Justice freak-outs. First, near the beginning, after Justice takes over during Tranquility and he kills Karl after, he can get very aggressively flirty with Hawke. And then, again in Act 2, after Dissent when Justice takes over and contributes to him either killing or nearly killing Ella -- if you're pursuing a romance path that's when he gives in.
It seems like those are the times when he's both most vulnerable and most desperate to assert his own independence over Justice. The rest of the time in-between those two events he seems to try to hold Hawke at arm's length. Even when it's implied Hawke's been goading him on the whole time.
See, I think it's more a realization that Hawke knows what he is and is sticking around and it pushes him closer to the edge of his control because it means that much to him.
In my headcanon, the reason he waits until after Dissent is because he wants to make sure Hawke knows exactly what she's getting into. He knows she admires him for his selflessness, and she shares his views on mage freedom, but he also knows he has a side to him that can rage murder templars and Wardens. Until he feels like she's seen him at his worst, he's going to keep her at arm's length (theoretically, at least). After Dissent, if she's still around after he kills/almost kills Ella, he realizes that nothing will dissuade her at this point and he's sick of not being with someone who would look past the worst of him and still want a relationship/life with him.
Or, um, something like that.
Exactly, because at least on screen he never mentions about how he left the Wardens, and the first time Hawke see's Justice going on a rage, it's understandable in a sense. Same with Dissent, up until he almost kills the mage girl. It hits home that both Anders and Justice can't fully control the anger they have, and it becomes as blind as justice. Blind rage.
#50974
Posté 09 août 2011 - 02:58
I suppose you could just bounce Anders back and forth, getting five points of friendship with him here and five points of rivalry there to try to end up exactly in the middle, but wow.
#50975
Posté 09 août 2011 - 03:08
LT123 wrote...
What's the criteria for not having the star option? The wiki says "achieving friendship or rivalry." So I guess it's basically impossible to for the option to be missing, since by Act II you'd probably have him at least 1/3 of the way towards friendship or rivalry.
I suppose you could just bounce Anders back and forth, getting five points of friendship with him here and five points of rivalry there to try to end up exactly in the middle, but wow.
LOL That is a lot of work just to not have an option. My boyfriend didn't see it and clicked one of the other ones and Anders killed her, when I explained it to him, he got pissed and reloaded going on about how Anders and Justice wouldn't have killed her, this is BS who wrote this....on and on. I was almost on the floor laughing my ass, then he went into "Yeah because my Hawke would just stand there and let him kill her..."
Oh my boyfriend how I love him so.





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