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YamiSnuffles wrote...

So we've mentioned songs that remind us of Anders/the romance, and this one jumped out at me this morning. Not sure if it's already been mentioned, but "Undisclosed Desires" by Muse seems super fitting.

www.youtube.com/watch


It is appropriate, in its own way. Muse has this habit of being appropriate for too many things. I feel like pointing out Peter Gabriel's rendition of My Body is a Cage again, and how much it reminds me of Anders in general. Probably because I've been listening to it on repeat for the past two days.

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 Good morning, fellow obsessives. :D
Last night while I was playing, I was retarded and failed to move Hawke out of a cloud of Arcane Horrow fartstink in time and she dropped. You know how companions will say stuff when other group members die? Well I heard something from Anders along the lines of:


"HAWKE, NO! Don't be dead, please, don't be dead!!"


Is this some generic thing he'll say about anyone? I only ask because it sounded so utterly anguished and desperate, and would be awesome if it was reserved for romanced Hawkes. He sounded so freaked out, I just wanted to huggle him and tell him Hawke was okay, she was just...sleepy.  ^_^

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And what Warden do you think they are speaking of at the end that is missing along with the champion missing?

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Kolotosa wrote...

 Good morning, fellow obsessives. :D
Last night while I was playing, I was retarded and failed to move Hawke out of a cloud of Arcane Horrow fartstink in time and she dropped. You know how companions will say stuff when other group members die? Well I heard something from Anders along the lines of:


"HAWKE, NO! Don't be dead, please, don't be dead!!"


Is this some generic thing he'll say about anyone? I only ask because it sounded so utterly anguished and desperate, and would be awesome if it was reserved for romanced Hawkes. He sounded so freaked out, I just wanted to huggle him and tell him Hawke was okay, she was just...sleepy.  ^_^


Note to self. Get Hawke dead tonight.

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Kolotosa wrote...

 Good morning, fellow obsessives. :D
Last night while I was playing, I was retarded and failed to move Hawke out of a cloud of Arcane Horrow fartstink in time and she dropped. You know how companions will say stuff when other group members die? Well I heard something from Anders along the lines of:


"HAWKE, NO! Don't be dead, please, don't be dead!!"


Is this some generic thing he'll say about anyone? I only ask because it sounded so utterly anguished and desperate, and would be awesome if it was reserved for romanced Hawkes. He sounded so freaked out, I just wanted to huggle him and tell him Hawke was okay, she was just...sleepy.  ^_^


I'm tempted to let my Hawke fall on purpose in the the next battle just to hear it myself. That being said, I've never heard him say it to a non-romanced Hawke, and I have a few of those playthroughs. Where I'd be stupid. As hell.

Arcane Horror Fartstink sounds marvelous. It made me giggle. I hate you.

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kellyofthemagi wrote...

And what Warden do you think they are speaking of at the end that is missing along with the champion missing?


Your warden, probably. I really only say that with confidence if Alistair is on the throne, though.

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Man, people have mentioned Anders despairing cry if Hawke falls in battle. Now I wish my Hawke wasn't Miss Indestructible Two-Handed Warrior. Seriously, a high dragon tried to eat her and she barely got scratched. =(

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YamiSnuffles wrote...

Man, people have mentioned Anders despairing cry if Hawke falls in battle. Now I wish my Hawke wasn't Miss Indestructible Two-Handed Warrior. Seriously, a high dragon tried to eat her and she barely got scratched. =(


Don't let that stop you. Not even indestructible 2H warriors are immune to the wiley charms of fartstink. Or maybe I'm just bad. :whistle:


There's not enough Anders on this page yet. Must remedy that.


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And some more Anders for this morning:

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Hey another song that reminds me of Anders Li or Fenris even ,Would be a Avenged Sevenfold song.I think it's called I give my heart to you.

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Hey, heres another song that reminds me of Anders li or even Fenris for his fans. Avenge Sevenfold " I Give My Heart To You."

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Thanks for the pic Rheia! Also good morning.

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Sorry for the double post.

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YamiSnuffles wrote...

Man, people have mentioned Anders despairing cry if Hawke falls in battle. Now I wish my Hawke wasn't Miss Indestructible Two-Handed Warrior. Seriously, a high dragon tried to eat her and she barely got scratched. =(


Be a Reaver, abuse Sacrificial Frenzy and Aura of Pain and run with squishy mages and rogues. I die fairly frequently, despite my massive health pool.

(also, because I am 12, I love the health and mana/stamina bars now because I can imagine this conversation happening):

Anders: I really don't know what Hawke sees in you.
Fenris: Probably my long health bar.
Anders: It's still shorter than my mana bar.
Fenris: Oh. *looks at Varric*
Anders: *looks at Varric*
Varric: What? Don't worry about me; I let my nimble fingers and quiet confidence speak for themselves.

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I wish I didn't have to go back to work. Otherwise, I would be obsessing next to you guys. Sadly, my Anders-alotted time is basically over. I'll pop in when I can, though. ;_;

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SurelyForth wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...

Man, people have mentioned Anders despairing cry if Hawke falls in battle. Now I wish my Hawke wasn't Miss Indestructible Two-Handed Warrior. Seriously, a high dragon tried to eat her and she barely got scratched. =(


Be a Reaver, abuse Sacrificial Frenzy and Aura of Pain and run with squishy mages and rogues. I die fairly frequently, despite my massive health pool.

(also, because I am 12, I love the health and mana/stamina bars now because I can imagine this conversation happening):

Anders: I really don't know what Hawke sees in you.
Fenris: Probably my long health bar.
Anders: It's still shorter than my mana bar.
Fenris: Oh. *looks at Varric*
Anders: *looks at Varric*
Varric: What? Don't worry about me; I let my nimble fingers and quiet confidence speak for themselves.


Hahaha. Anders does have the longest mana bar. :devil:

I do usually run exclusively with Anders and Varric. Generally the third is Merrill, who is definitely squishy despite me trying to build up her defenses. I suppose part of my problem does come from not being a Reaver. Whenever I think of Reavers I think of those annoying jerks in DA:O. Somehow I can never become one because of that. Granted, I also couldn't choose Templar because it felt weird considering the circumstances of DA2. Thus specializations are wasted on me.

EDIT: Will admit to playing like a retard for weird RP reasons.

Modifié par YamiSnuffles, 23 mars 2011 - 02:11 .


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Good day :lol:

Speaking of songs, I was listening to the Dragon Age 2 soundtrack:

www.youtube.com/watch (one of the best songs)

and it reminded me a lot of: www.youtube.com/watch

(the latter is a really sad love song, i guess it fits anders and hawke quite well)

#5193
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YamiSnuffles wrote...
Hahaha. Anders does have the longest mana bar. :devil:

I do usually run exclusively with Anders and Varric. Generally the third is Merrill, who is definitely squishy despite me trying to build up her defenses. I suppose part of my problem does come from not being a Reaver. Whenever I think of Reavers I think of those annoying jerks in DA:O. Somehow I can never become one because of that. Granted, I also couldn't choose Templar because it felt weird considering the circumstances of DA2. Thus specializations are wasted on me.


I based what ended up being my canon Warden on the Reavers in Haven (and The Bride, but only for the whole killing machine aspect). She learned the spec from a book in her grandfather's For Adult Eyes Only collection, while Hawke has it inflicted upon her when they clean out the Bone Pit the first time. It's a fun spec in DA2, but it's hard to roleplay a good person who uses, say, Devour with any frequency. Not that I let it stop me, she just does it on the sly and when she'd fighting someone she reeeeeeeeeeeally hates.

And Hawke also knows some templar skills, but she learned them to protect herself once she realized how many damned maleficar are in Kirkwall. Anders, Bethany and Merrill know she'd never use it against them.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 23 mars 2011 - 02:18 .


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So, I spared him last night. Not that anyone's surprised.

But the reason might surprise y'all since it surprised me. In the last romance dialog, Margaret was still pissed at him, so they were still fighting. He said something along the lines of, "There is nothing more important than justice."

Margaret glared at him and snapped, "Love is more important than justice." And she wasn't thinking about him, she was thinking about her brother.

But when the time came, she stood over Anders and remembered her own words to him and realized if she killed him, put him down, euthanized him, she'd be a hypocrite. She'd be choosing justice over love like he did.

But then, they had to fight, so kicking his ass would have to wait.

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SurelyForth wrote...

I based what ended up being my canon Warden on the Reavers in Haven (and The Bride, but only for the whole killing machine aspect). She learned the spec from a book in her grandfather's For Adult Eyes Only collection, while Hawke has it inflicted upon her when they clean out the Bone Pit the first time. It's a fun spec in DA2, but it's hard to roleplay a good person who uses, say, Devour with any frequency. Not that I let it stop me, she just does it on the sly and when she'd fighting someone she reeeeeeeeeeeally hates.

And Hawke also knows some templar skills, but she learned them to protect herself once she realized how many damned maleficar are in Kirkwall. Anders, Bethany and Merrill know she'd never use it against them.


Hmm, I suppose there is the idea that Hawke becomes a Reaver from killing so many darned dragons. And I suppose my Warden was simultaneously a Templar and best buds with Anders in Awakening. Although, it makes me think of Aveline asking Anders for tips on how to deal with bad mages and he gets very huffy.

Ah well, I shall have to think it out carefully as I replay my canon Hawke.

Modifié par YamiSnuffles, 23 mars 2011 - 02:28 .


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kellyofthemagi wrote...

Sooooo What do yall think may happen after Hawke leaves Kirkwall? I'm interested on your thoughts.


My Hawke pissed off a lot of people in Kirkwall over the years, and even more when she let that crazy mage of hers live. I imagine her, after that final scene, ordering Isabela to steal a ship from the Gallows Harbour and get it over to the town, so she and the rest of them can take advantage of the chaos in Kirkwall to go back to base, get some very basic supplies and money, and get the hell out of town before the sun goes down.

She'd choose to head down the Wounded Coast and hide for a day in the caves there, giving her companions a bit of a speech: she's sorry she's screwed up their lives in Kirkwall, and she knows what happened there was terrible, but she will stand by Anders regardless. They will be taking the fight to the Chantries, and if the others are not with her and Anders they've got until the next day to leave, because she doesn't want anyone she can't trust following her.
And then she'd dye her hair back to its natural colour - the red is fun and all, but it's a little too obvious for someone trying to lay low.

I imagine she convinces Aveline to leave and go start anew somewhere with Donnic, because even though they're BFFs she knows it would go against Aves' better judgement to help her. She might also advise Fenris to go with them, or tell him to simply get out of the country and head to Ferelden, because mages in the Free Marches will soon be raising hell.
I imagine Isabela would find it all very exciting and would choose to stick around, and Varric would probably shrug it off as being a good story to tell some day, even if his business affairs are probably shot to hell. Merrill and Bethany really have nowhere else to go, and Hawke would be happy to have them along now that Merrill has given up blood magic, although she would worry constantly about her sister's safety.

She would probably be unable to talk to Anders for a few days, as angry as she is at him. When she feels she can finally speak to him without wanting to throw things, she'd tell him how hurt and disappointed she is with him, but reaffirm that she intends to stand with him, and would extract a promise from him that he won't ever go behind her back like that again.

Following that, they'd probably head into the countryside for a month or so, laying low and listening to news of how it all turned out, before setting their sights on what needs to happen next. I think they'd try to get back into contact with any remnants of the apostate underground, and the Libertarians in the different Circles, to organise an uprising in other parts of Thedas now that the abuses in Kirkwall have come to light. They'd also be helping any mages taking advantage of the Kirkwall situation to escape from there, encouraging those that want to fight and hiding those that just want to live normal lives. They'd bounce around between cities across all of Thedas, listening, watching, and inspiring mages to fight for freedom, and running to ground in the wilds when things get too hot.
The first circle she'd want to see fall would be Starkhaven's, to pay back that backstabbing, self-righteous son-of-a-****, and I can imagine her glee when it falls while Sebastian is off with his army, stomping around long-abandoned Kirkwall.

With a bit of encouragment I think Bethany would make a good speaker for what really went on in the Kirkwall Circle, while Merrill can describe the Dalish system: how the care and protection of mages is spread across the whole community. Anders, Isabela and Hawke herself would be taking care of more martial affairs, though she would encourage political manoeuvering over explosives. The explosives are fun and all, don't get her wrong, but it isn't the best way to help regular people get over their fear of mages. Varric would be assisting with gathering information, both about inside the Circles and the wider world, notifying Hawke when it's getting too dangerous for the group to stay in one place.

As for where she disappears to, years later? I'm hoping BioWare will eventually tell me. :mellow:

ETA: Oh hell, sorry about the ginormous wall o' text. Your question may have got me thinking too hard.

Modifié par Threeparts, 23 mars 2011 - 02:53 .


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Threeparts wrote...

kellyofthemagi wrote...

Sooooo What do yall think may happen after Hawke leaves Kirkwall? I'm interested on your thoughts.


Following that, they'd probably head into the countryside for a month or so, laying low and listening to news of how it all turned out, before setting their sights on what needs to happen next. I think they'd try to get back into contact with any remnants of the apostate underground, and the Libertarians in the different Circles, to organise an uprising in other parts of Thedas now that the abuses in Kirkwall have come to light. They'd also be helping any mages taking advantage of the Kirkwall situation to escape from there, encouraging those that want to fight and hiding those that just want to live normal lives. They'd bounce around between cities across all of Thedas, listening, watching, and inspiring mages to fight for freedom, and running to ground in the wilds when things get too hot.

The first circle she'd want to see fall would be Starkhaven's, to pay back that backstabbing, self-righteous son-of-a-****, and I can imagine her glee when it falls while Sebastian is off with his army, stomping around long-abandoned Kirkwall.

As for where she disappears to, years later? I'm hoping BioWare will eventually tell me. :mellow:


I got this image of my Hawke taking over the role as resident staff-thumper and coming to the aid of mages who are defending themselves from the rogue Templars.  She would probably have to keep Anders at bay, since I'm sure his presence might intimidate or anger some mages, but he'd likely pitch into the morale-building speeches to add a bit of fire.  But when it came to the fighting, she and him would come swooping in with their bands of Libertarians and Resolutionists to fend the Templars off, then call out the Chantries who have seemed to lost control of their dogs.  I really hope it does not come down to bombing any more of them. ;)  Guess they better be careful of what they say or condone.

Also, I think the Starkhaven Circle was burned to the ground already?  I'll have to look into it, but I think that's how Grace and etc. got away in the first place.

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I found the rivalry romance really opened up my eyes towards Anders. Originally my Mage!Hawke was ready to incinerate anyone who came within two feet of Anders without good reason. He supported crushing that spineless whelp Elthina and the lunatic Meredith consequenceses, and whatever Varric and Sebastian had to say be damned. We were working for the greater good and Anders was only trying to protect me from himself.

Taking the opposing route however I got to see alot more of 'Vengance' and I didn't like what I saw. Suddenly everything I had been warned about was coming true. Anders was a selfish bastard that was just using me. I don't deny that at some point there may have been some love between us, but somewhere between the emotional blackmail, and his speech in the gallows that 'his first loyalty would always be to the cause', I realized. "This man is a selfish bastard." and "This relationship will never work."

I wished I had the option to kill him than and just cry in the corner for a few moments.

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I haven't thought about What Hawke Does beyond a few comedy options (like piling everyone up into Isabela's ship, running to Denerim and throwing herself on my Warden's good graces and affection for Anders).

What will most likely happen is that they do pile up on Isabela's ship. Aveline will be left behind to salvage what she can of her life. Hopefully, because Cullen let them escape, she can at least gather Donnic and have *something*. Hawke might try to apologize to everyone, but she's probably not in the best frame of mind to be talking to anyone, lest she seem like she's being too casual about the entire ordeal when it's burning her up inside that everyone she loves has been caught up in the storm and it's, largely, her own fault.

Beyond that, though...do they go to Ferelden? It seems like a safe place to gather their wits and maybe tie up some loose ends *cough* Anders' phylachtery *cough* until the **** really starts to go down. But, if the Circle there revolts like all the others, would that burn Alistair's good will towards mages or could he somehow proactively step in and be like "Hey, the mages are going to rebel. We need to take a huge step back if we're going to avoid bloodshed and maybe we can not **** up our country even more."

Any genuine and vague ideas of actual freedom fighting are very similar to Threeparts. I don't know if heading to Starkhaven would be Hawke's first choice, because she has to admit that Sebastian lost a lot in the bombing and his anguish was genuine, but it does seem incredibly logical.

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Yeah, the Starhaven Circle is no more.

What no one's ever pointed out is how a well-used Templar complements a fighting mage. Alistair and Moira Surana were pretty damned well unstoppable. I don't see why the two sides can't unite. Other than, you know... my Hawke's over-zealous boyfriend at whom she's still pissed.