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[syllogi]

Sialater wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Yes, but he has "sources."

I'm on the view that not all Varric's "sources" can be trusted 

I'm of the view that half of DA2's story is exaggeration and hyperbole. 

I've decided that the reason that we don't have friendly fire on Normal or a top down camera on PC is because Varric thought all that description of action was tedious.

EDIT:  Here is my Devora Hawke, who would rather kill herself than let Anders die.  She'd also incinerate anyone who tells her she has to leave Anders behind for story reasons.

Modifié par TeenZombie, 16 août 2011 - 04:53 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
Total agreement here. I do not mind that Anders cannot be saved, either. IHowever, i still would have liked the option for hawke to at least try, or to show more concern for Anders own well being, outside of the mage cause or anything else, especially if Hawke is romancing him, because then Hawke's interest in Anders has gone beyond the mage cause, and has become personal.

Yet Hawke never really does this. Hell, my Wardens showed more concern and care for Anders well being, and he wasn't even possesed/crazy at that time, just really pissed off about the templars constantly harrassing him and hunting him down when all he wants is to live life on his own terms.

At least buy him a cat Goddamit.

And on a related note, if there is a way to help Anders, I believe the best place to look is Rivain, not Tevinter. The Rivani seers, specifically, who have long traditions and knowledge of their seers merging with helpful Fade spirits. Even if Justice could never be seperated from Anders, perhaps they might have the knowledge to help Anders learn to make inner peace and accord with Justice, and as a result, probably live a much happier life. And far less self destructive.

Yea he is more likely to be experimented upon in Tevinter (I know that's what I would do).

[Aeowyn]

TeenZombie wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Yes, but he has "sources."

I'm on the view that not all Varric's "sources" can be trusted 

I'm of the view that half of DA2's story is exaggeration and hyperbole. 

I've decided that the reason that we don't have friendly fire on Normal or a top down camera on PC is because Varric thought all that description of action was tedious.

Maybe action scenes wasn't Varric's strong suit when writing fanfiction. 

Modifié par Aeowyn, 16 août 2011 - 04:52 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Sialater wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Yes, but he has "sources."

I'm on the view that not all Varric's "sources" can be trusted 

I'm of the view that half of DA2's story is exaggeration and hyperbole. 

That's not funny.....*vein in forehead popping out*

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

TeenZombie wrote...


Anyone play NWN2: Storm of Zehir and get the reference to Casavir's fate?  I didn't even love the guy, and I was appalled.

Alot of people were appalled at NWN2 OC endings. Rocks fall, everyone dies, including your LI, either Casavir or Elanne. When storm of Zehir came out and this little tidbit about casavir being left for dead and taken by the Luskans set off the Casavir fangirl base in new directions, including some of the mod goddesses getting together to create a "rescue Cas" mod. As well as many fan fics detailing various rescue escapades.

Yeah, I was pretty appalled, but pleasantly so, because it at least defied the stupid "rocks fall, everyone dies" ending that Obsidian used to hamfisted kill off the OC companions. But I definitely would want to rescue him, given the type of people the Luskans are, and the various torments they would use on a Tyrran paladin, especially a neverwinter paladin.

[Sialater]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Yes, but he has "sources."

I'm on the view that not all Varric's "sources" can be trusted 

I'm of the view that half of DA2's story is exaggeration and hyperbole. 

That's not funny.....*vein in forehead popping out*

Why not?  The romance lines alone are so incredibly lame he had to have made them up. 

@Teen:  that is a gorgeous pic.  Did you do that?

[KnightofPhoenix]

Sialater wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

That's not funny.....*vein in forehead popping out*

Why not?  The romance lines alone are so incredibly lame he had to have made them up. 

Because the game I am stuck with annoys the heck out of me, because apparently Varric wants to be a loveable douche.

But nevermind, carry on.

[Aeowyn]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Sialater wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

That's not funny.....*vein in forehead popping out*

Why not?  The romance lines alone are so incredibly lame he had to have made them up. 

Because the game I am stuck with annoys the heck out of me, because apparently Varric wants to be a loveable douche.

But nevermind, carry on.

Yes KoP, we already know how much you hate DA2....

[Heidenreich]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Yes, but he has "sources."

I'm on the view that not all Varric's "sources" can be trusted 

I'm of the view that half of DA2's story is exaggeration and hyperbole. 

That's not funny.....*vein in forehead popping out*

Varric: And then some stuff happened, and Hawke-Awesome, and .. explody bodies.

Cassandra: What.

Varric: Look, I'm not so great at explaining combat, okay? I shoot my crossbow at stuff and Hawke would throw fire and bend gravity and.. its MAGIC. She would magic stuff, and it would die. Lets move on. I'll tell you about how she manged to get Anders to finally submit to her swaying hips, if you like.

Cassandra: You know an awful lot about Hawke's personal life.

Varric: She wrote it down in her journal and left it out on her desk.

Hawke from behind the door in the other room:

[syllogi]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...


Anyone play NWN2: Storm of Zehir and get the reference to Casavir's fate?  I didn't even love the guy, and I was appalled.

Alot of people were appalled at NWN2 OC endings. Rocks fall, everyone dies, including your LI, either Casavir or Elanne. When storm of Zehir came out and this little tidbit about casavir being left for dead and taken by the Luskans set off the Casavir fangirl base in new directions, including some of the mod goddesses getting together to create a "rescue Cas" mod. As well as many fan fics detailing various rescue escapades.

Yeah, I was pretty appalled, but pleasantly so, because it at least defied the stupid "rocks fall, everyone dies" ending that Obsidian used to hamfisted kill off the OC companions. But I definitely would want to rescue him, given the type of people the Luskans are, and the various torments they would use on a Tyrran paladin, especially a neverwinter paladin.

That's a better way of looking at it.  I'm probably too much of a roleplayer, so I couldn't ever romance Gann in MotB if I had previously romanced Casavir.  I can't just move on without knowing whether he was squashed...then, I find out that he's being tortured, but NYAHNYAH PLAYER CHARACTER, nothing you can do about it.  So I'm glad to hear that people wanted to change that with mods and fanfic.  I was pretty angry by the time SoZ came out, so I wasn't active in the community enough to know about that sort of thing.

Bringing it back to Anders, all I would ask for is to give me enough wiggle room in the canon to allow for my fanfiction-y happy ending, or reasonable facsimile thereof.  I don't even expect to learn that Anders was magically "fixed" after DA2, I just want to fill in the blanks myself, without knowing that my Hawke canonically blew everyone off for some vague fate.

[cmessaz]

@Teen Zombie- I love that pic! I have it in my faves on Deviant.

[YamiSnuffles]

Heidenreich wrote...

Varric: And then some stuff happened, and Hawke-Awesome, and .. explody bodies.

Cassandra: What.

Varric: Look, I'm not so great at explaining combat, okay? I shoot my crossbow at stuff and Hawke would throw fire and bend gravity and.. its MAGIC. She would magic stuff, and it would die. Lets move on. I'll tell you about how she manged to get Anders to finally submit to her swaying hips, if you like.

Cassandra: You know an awful lot about Hawke's personal life.

Varric: She wrote it down in her journal and left it out on her desk.

Hawke from behind the door in the other room:

That reminds me of this picture:


by kyuubifred

[syllogi]

Sialater wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Yes, but he has "sources."

I'm on the view that not all Varric's "sources" can be trusted 

I'm of the view that half of DA2's story is exaggeration and hyperbole. 

That's not funny.....*vein in forehead popping out*

Why not?  The romance lines alone are so incredibly lame he had to have made them up. 

@Teen:  that is a gorgeous pic.  Did you do that?

Why yes, yes I did!  Link  I have more Anders / Devora pic ideas, so hopefully I'll keep drawing them in the future.

Edit:

cmessaz wrote...

@Teen Zombie- I love that pic! I have it in my faves on Deviant.

Thanks!

Modifié par TeenZombie, 16 août 2011 - 05:09 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Heidenreich wrote...
Varric: And then some stuff happened, and Hawke-Awesome, and .. explody bodies.

Cassandra: What.

Varric: Look, I'm not so great at explaining combat, okay? I shoot my crossbow at stuff and Hawke would throw fire and bend gravity and.. its MAGIC. She would magic stuff, and it would die. Lets move on. I'll tell you about how she manged to get Anders to finally submit to her swaying hips, if you like.

Cassandra: You know an awful lot about Hawke's personal life.

Varric: She wrote it down in her journal and left it out on her desk.

Hawke from behind the door in the other room:

Varric: "And then, Orsino turned nuts, revealed he was behind Quentin and turned into a huge ugly Harvester creature!"

Cassandra: "...what?"

Varric: "Listen lady, have you ever heard a story without a boss fight? Mine is so awesome, that it needs TWO boss fights. Now shut it and listen"

Cassandra: "..."

Varric: "Then after Hawke ripping Orsino's head that is not so much a head off, Meredith turned nuts, turned out she had the idol we found years ago, and spawned red eyes with a red lightsaber sword thingy that I am so not plagiarising from Soul Edge, and then then, backflipped 10 foot in the air! And brought statues to life! No wait, transformer statues with ****ing flamethrowers!!"

Cassandra: "....that is so romantic :wub:"

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 16 août 2011 - 05:11 .

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

YamiSnuffles wrote...



That reminds me of this picture:

*snip

Awww.....That picture is so epic! Paranoid "Templars under the bed" Anders is so damned cute.:wub:

[Heidenreich]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Heidenreich wrote...
Varric: And then some stuff happened, and Hawke-Awesome, and .. explody bodies.

Cassandra: What.

Varric: Look, I'm not so great at explaining combat, okay? I shoot my crossbow at stuff and Hawke would throw fire and bend gravity and.. its MAGIC. She would magic stuff, and it would die. Lets move on. I'll tell you about how she manged to get Anders to finally submit to her swaying hips, if you like.

Cassandra: You know an awful lot about Hawke's personal life.

Varric: She wrote it down in her journal and left it out on her desk.

Hawke from behind the door in the other room:

Varric: "And then, Orsino turned nuts, revealed he was behind Quentin and turned into a huge ugly Harvester creature!"

Cassandra: "...what?"

Varric: "Listen lady, have you ever heard a story without a boss fight? Mine is so awesome, that it needs TWO boss fights. Now shut it and listen"

Cassandra: "..."

Varric: "Then after Hawke ripping Orsino's head that is not so much a head off, Meredith turned nuts, turned out she had the idol we found years ago, and spawned red eyes with a red lightsaber sword thingy that I am so not plagiarising from Soul Edge, and then then, backflipped 10 foot in the air! And brought statues to life! No wait, transformer statues with ****ing flamethrowers!!"

Cassandra: "....that is so romantic :wub:"

Pretty much this. You have to take everyting in DA2 with a spoon full of vinagar and remember that its someone telling a story.  What really happened is --

Orsino was all "Nooo my mages!" *slits wrist, regular blood magic*

and Hawke was all, "For the love of the maker isn't anyone in this stupid city not a blood mage?" *shoots fire and bends gravity and Orsino falls over dead/ Slices Orsino's head off with big sword/sharp daggers*


But that ****'s boring.

So, Varric had to spice it up a little.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
No wait, transformer statues with ****ing flamethrowers!!"

And missile launchers. In fact, when those big Voltron-looking statues came lumbering my way, thats exactly what those spikey things looked like: missile launchers.

I was half expecting the damn things to pull out a full nuclear assault on Hawke's party. That was one of the moments where I had to pause the game, because I couldn't stop laughing so hard.

Which pissed me off, because I was looking forward to killing Meredith gruesomely, but the b*tch stole my thunder with her lightsaber ninja skills, and then denying my the pleasure of slowly disembowling her by turning into glow giant lyrium dog poo.

I'm still quite pissed about that.<_<

[syllogi]

Heidenreich wrote...

Pretty much this. You have to take everyting in DA2 with a spoon full of vinagar and remember that its someone telling a story.  What really happened is --

Orsino was all "Nooo my mages!" *slits wrist, regular blood magic*

and Hawke was all, "For the love of the maker isn't anyone in this stupid city not a blood mage?" *shoots fire and bends gravity and Orsino falls over dead/ Slices Orsino's head off with big sword/sharp daggers*


But that ****'s boring.

So, Varric had to spice it up a little.

But you can tell that Varric really isn't that into Hawke with the way he skipped over the good parts of the love scenes...

[Aeowyn]

TeenZombie wrote...

Heidenreich wrote...

Pretty much this. You have to take everyting in DA2 with a spoon full of vinagar and remember that its someone telling a story.  What really happened is --

Orsino was all "Nooo my mages!" *slits wrist, regular blood magic*

and Hawke was all, "For the love of the maker isn't anyone in this stupid city not a blood mage?" *shoots fire and bends gravity and Orsino falls over dead/ Slices Orsino's head off with big sword/sharp daggers*


But that ****'s boring.

So, Varric had to spice it up a little.

But you can tell that Varric really isn't that into Hawke with the way he skipped over the good parts of the love scenes...

Maybe love scenes isn't his strong suit either hehe. 

[Sialater]

Aeowyn wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

Heidenreich wrote...

Pretty much this. You have to take everyting in DA2 with a spoon full of vinagar and remember that its someone telling a story.  What really happened is --

Orsino was all "Nooo my mages!" *slits wrist, regular blood magic*

and Hawke was all, "For the love of the maker isn't anyone in this stupid city not a blood mage?" *shoots fire and bends gravity and Orsino falls over dead/ Slices Orsino's head off with big sword/sharp daggers*


But that ****'s boring.

So, Varric had to spice it up a little.

But you can tell that Varric really isn't that into Hawke with the way he skipped over the good parts of the love scenes...

Maybe love scenes isn't his strong suit either hehe. 

Or Casssandra got all prudish and glared at him so he cut it short.

[Mr.House]

TeenZombie wrote...

Heidenreich wrote...

Pretty much this. You have to take everyting in DA2 with a spoon full of vinagar and remember that its someone telling a story.  What really happened is --

Orsino was all "Nooo my mages!" *slits wrist, regular blood magic*

and Hawke was all, "For the love of the maker isn't anyone in this stupid city not a blood mage?" *shoots fire and bends gravity and Orsino falls over dead/ Slices Orsino's head off with big sword/sharp daggers*


But that ****'s boring.

So, Varric had to spice it up a little.

But you can tell that Varric really isn't that into Hawke with the way he skipped over the good parts of the love scenes...

I have the true versions on steam

[Heidenreich]

Sialater wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

Heidenreich wrote...

Pretty much this. You have to take everyting in DA2 with a spoon full of vinagar and remember that its someone telling a story.  What really happened is --

Orsino was all "Nooo my mages!" *slits wrist, regular blood magic*

and Hawke was all, "For the love of the maker isn't anyone in this stupid city not a blood mage?" *shoots fire and bends gravity and Orsino falls over dead/ Slices Orsino's head off with big sword/sharp daggers*


But that ****'s boring.

So, Varric had to spice it up a little.

But you can tell that Varric really isn't that into Hawke with the way he skipped over the good parts of the love scenes...

Maybe love scenes isn't his strong suit either hehe. 

Or Casssandra got all prudish and glared at him so he cut it short.

Varric: And as they were making out on her bed, Anders pushed his quick release tab and his robes fell open dramatically and..

Cassandra: *glare*

Varric: ... and, uh, that's all she told me!

[MG800]

Aeowyn wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

Heidenreich wrote...

Pretty much this. You have to take everyting in DA2 with a spoon full of vinagar and remember that its someone telling a story.  What really happened is --

Orsino was all "Nooo my mages!" *slits wrist, regular blood magic*

and Hawke was all, "For the love of the maker isn't anyone in this stupid city not a blood mage?" *shoots fire and bends gravity and Orsino falls over dead/ Slices Orsino's head off with big sword/sharp daggers*


But that ****'s boring.

So, Varric had to spice it up a little.

But you can tell that Varric really isn't that into Hawke with the way he skipped over the good parts of the love scenes...

Maybe love scenes isn't his strong suit either hehe. 

Well, it could be his two male friends doing each other  I'm not sure, how you descirbe a scene, you don't want to know and hear about. Now, if it was Isabela talking... 

Modifié par MG800, 16 août 2011 - 05:46 .

[Sialater]

Heidenreich wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

Heidenreich wrote...

Pretty much this. You have to take everyting in DA2 with a spoon full of vinagar and remember that its someone telling a story.  What really happened is --

Orsino was all "Nooo my mages!" *slits wrist, regular blood magic*

and Hawke was all, "For the love of the maker isn't anyone in this stupid city not a blood mage?" *shoots fire and bends gravity and Orsino falls over dead/ Slices Orsino's head off with big sword/sharp daggers*


But that ****'s boring.

So, Varric had to spice it up a little.

But you can tell that Varric really isn't that into Hawke with the way he skipped over the good parts of the love scenes...

Maybe love scenes isn't his strong suit either hehe. 

Or Casssandra got all prudish and glared at him so he cut it short.

Varric: And as they were making out on her bed, Anders pushed his quick release tab and his robes fell open dramatically and..

Cassandra: *glare*

Varric: ... and, uh, that's all she told me!

Exactly!

[CulturalGeekGirl]

Woops, double post.

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 16 août 2011 - 05:58 .