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[Dunizel]

maxernst wrote...

Naqey wrote...

Sure, you can go down the rivalry path and still side with the mages IN THE END. But to oppose him, you have to speak against mages more than once. It would be a little strange to suddenly side with them at the very end. What I felt important was to express my activley pro-mage stance throughout the game, and yet oppose Anders way of doing things. Sure, some options that we are given point in that direction, but it doesn't feel like a thorough standpoint which one can follow through wholely.

That's one of my problems with the whole rivalry mechanic.  The game essentially penalizes you with disloyal companions for taking moderate stances, while rewarding you if you consistently act in direct opposition to the character's wishes. 

Yeah, you have basically to metagame a lot and choose who you want to take on quest to maximize your rivalry/friendly meter. I I had a lot of problems with Isabela to be honest the first time, since I basically never used her in party. 

But, back to the point. 
Yes, you have to speak against mages sometimes. But to be honest there are some cases where speak against them is just common sense (especially for a non-mage Hawke imo). Especially Grace, to name one.  
I did just one playthrough rivaling Anders, and it was really good. I just sent Grace and Feynriel to the Circle, which doesn't change much. By the start of Act2 I could do whatever I wanted, Anders is extremely easy to ****** off or please. 

Side with them at the end anyway for me was more a "I don't want to slaughter people just because Meredith wants to". I could even feel sorry somehow for the templars I was killing. 
I cannot see the final decision as a "stand with the mages or templars" one. There my Hawke is just protecting people, as she/he tried to do the whole time. We all know Hawke had a bad luck with it, but oh well, she/he kept trying.

[SurelyForth]

Mekarah wrote...

Naqey wrote...

11th September: "@dragonage What about Anders? Don't make me go all Jenga on your ass!!!"

Seemingly a reply to a Bioware@dragonage's tweet of 9th of September: "Do you think if Ander's had only taken in a new stray, things could have been different?"

Actually it was the reply to, "So much Fenris love today!" However, the stray may have also helped avoid that too, so 

Also this made me giggle:

http://www.tumblr.co...fszlFdAl1qlvo9n
From Texts from Kirkwall

I must reiterate: why would you want to get out of wizard sex? 

[berelinde]

Maybe the wizard isn't Anders?

[Giggles_Manically]

Maybe the wizard by accident set off a cone of cold and lets just say a certain person lost all feeling below the waist line.

Allegedly.

I could be a lawyer if I you know wanted to waste eight-10 years getting there.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

SurelyForth wrote...

I must reiterate: why would you want to get out of wizard sex? 

Especially sex with a Wizard who has a third party voyer in his head and the fully maxed out walking bomb spell.:wub::wub::wub:

[Giggles_Manically]

Note to self laughing in the library earns funny looks.....

[Sialater]

Not sure how "walking bomb" is remotely sexy.

[Ashwraith]

PuppyFlavour wrote...

I know nothing makes my heart flutter more than watching a man explode like an intestine filled waterballoon.

...Now I'm hungry.
I really wonder about myself sometimes.

[Ashwraith]

Ah yes. The continuing adventures of Vi Shepard, Space Vampire.


*rips open uniform*
THIS IS THE SKIN OF A KILLER, ALENKO


...Wait, what were we talking about again?

Modifié par Ashwraith, 14 septembre 2011 - 08:55 .

[Mekarah]

SurelyForth wrote...

I must reiterate: why would you want to get out of wizard sex? 

Hey, I didn't create it  And I may have also asked the same question to myself when I saw it.

[Sialater]

Thank you. Thank you for those images. LOL

[LT123]

Ashwraith wrote...

Ah yes. The continuing adventures of Vi Shepard, Space Vampire.


*rips open uniform*
THIS IS THE SKIN OF A KILLER, ALENKO


...Wait, what were we talking about again?

Pffff.  I'm glad I wasn't eating or drinking anything when I read that. Day made.

[Maddcassel]

esper wrote...

Maddcassel wrote...

I'm new here and normally a lurker but I have to comment on this.
I think if Anders wants any sanity at all he MUST merge completely with Justice. Otherwise it will just keep going as the split personality thing and someone will have to put him out of his misery. They weren't a very good match like Wynne and her spirit. Both personalities have to give a little and become something better.

I agree which is why I personallu think that friendship is healhtier for Anders. In that path they seems more one merged personality than rivalry where they are a split personality.

What Anders seems to need is someone to tell him he's doing the right thing. Freedom for mages good! In the rival you are telling him he's wrong and it confuses him. Then you throw Justice in the mix and you have a guy who is very happy he planted a bomb.

That comic is very cute!

[SurelyForth]

PuppyFlavour wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Not sure how "walking bomb" is remotely sexy.

I know nothing makes my heart flutter more than watching a man explode like an intestine filled waterballoon.

Well, confections maybe, but I have a terrible sweet tooth.

I might have a Warden who is strangely fond of VWB. The first time she saw Morrigan do it, she kinda wanted to hump her leg.

As for other things, I'm disappointed they took out telekinetic for all mages in DA2. I'm certain Anders could find some creative uses for a good telekinesis spell...

[YamiSnuffles]

Ashwraith wrote...

Ah yes. The continuing adventures of Vi Shepard, Space Vampire.


*rips open uniform*
THIS IS THE SKIN OF A KILLER, ALENKO


...Wait, what were we talking about again?

I am dying now. Thank you. 

[Naqey]

Mekarah wrote...

Naqey wrote...

11th September: "@dragonage What about Anders? Don't make me go all Jenga on your ass!!!"

Seemingly a reply to a Bioware@dragonage's tweet of 9th of September: "Do you think if Ander's had only taken in a new stray, things could have been different?"

Actually it was the reply to, "So much Fenris love today!" However, the stray may have also helped avoid that too, so 

Also this made me giggle:

http://www.tumblr.co...fszlFdAl1qlvo9n
From Texts from Kirkwall

Ah, this way it makes a lot more SENSE.

Still, I totally support the stray idea. But maybe we should have given that stray to Elthina instead? Maybe that cute, innocent kitty could have achieved more than a buch of templars and sisters and devotees? I mean, WHO could kill a kitten? 

Hmm... mage-sex. I'm never 100% percent sure if that thought rather intrigues me or creeps me out... Especially with a non-mage Hawke listening to the little "electric hand" banter between Anders and Isabella. There must be NASTY things going on.

Dunizel wrote...

But, back to the point. 
Yes, you have to speak against mages sometimes. But to be honest there are some cases where speak against
them is just common sense (especially for a non-mage Hawke imo). Especially Grace, to name one. 
I did just one playthrough rivaling Anders, and it was really good. I just sent Grace and Feynriel to the Circle, which doesn't change much. By the start of Act2 I could do whatever I wanted, Anders is extremely easy to ****** off or please. 

My point was simply that you cannot go a rivalry path with Anders where he'll think that I oppose his Justice decision and his radical outlook and still support the mage cause in general. He will always think I'm siding with the templars. But I guess that has been discussed a lot already

Modifié par Naqey, 15 septembre 2011 - 06:43 .

[Dunizel]

Well yes sadly, I was thinking about the possibilities to roleplay this kind of Hawke...the game doesn't recognize it sadly, but hey, we have to fill a lot of gaps already, I've filled this like I wanted xD

I still think a mage Hawke could learn a trick or two from Anders to spice up their nights...although walking bomb honestly doesn't strike me as sexy, but oh well xD

[Iceyone]

Hi Anders thread -waves-
Although I'm a Fengirl, Anders in every pt has been my best friend, love the guy to bits!

For science -cough, cough- I decided to try and rival him this latest pt on my fem rogue, it's not going well atall, I feel awful for him and guilty about what I believe I'm doing to his mental state.
Do you guys get the feeling that on rival path, that your Hawke is solely responsible for his virtual mental breakdown? I know the man is unstable regardless of which path you chose but on friend path I feel like my Hawke is his crutch, supporting him, keeping him relatively stable and keeping him safe. As a rival, I feel like my Hawke is quite literally tearing him apart =/

Most of the other rival paths with companions, I can actually see some positives from going that route but with Anders it just feels so wrong. I'm doubting if I can even finish this pt. almost at the end of Act2 and I know it's only going downhill from now on in and I'm really not looking forward to the "end game".

[berelinde]

Iceyone wrote...
Do you guys get the feeling that on rival path, that your Hawke is solely responsible for his virtual mental breakdown?

Absolutely.
 

I know the man is unstable regardless of which path you chose but on friend path I feel like my Hawke is his crutch, supporting him, keeping him relatively stable and keeping him safe. As a rival, I feel like my Hawke is quite literally tearing him apart =/

I know. Yes, "tough love" is a wonderful thing that lets you talk sense into Merrill and she even thanks you for it, but with Anders, there's nowhere to go but downhill. Unlike the other companions, he cannot wish his troubles away. Yes, he is in a mess of his own making, but punishing him for poor judgment when it's too late for him to change it is not helpful. Yes, he can fight it, but he will always lose. Justice is stonger than he is. If your Hawke does believe in Anders's cause, she will probably prefer helping him create a world where Justice will be happy, anyway.

Most of the other rival paths with companions, I can actually see some positives from going that route but with Anders it just feels so wrong. I'm doubting if I can even finish this pt. almost at the end of Act2 and I know it's only going downhill from now on in and I'm really not looking forward to the "end game".

I know what you mean. With the other companions, their "demons" are reversible decisions. Stop hating mages, stop playing with tainted mirrors, start thinking of others, but with Anders, "stop being possessed" is not an option. I did complete a rival playthrough. It left me depressed for days.

[silver1881]

SurelyForth wrote...

I am so confused by Anders/Justice, which makes writing from Anders' perspective a chore. I like the idea that Anders has an innate understanding of what thoughts are his own and what thoughts belong to Justice, in the beginning. Like he still knows how he thinks and what he would think in any given situation, and when he has a thought that doesn't fit, then it's Justice. Over time, though, he stops being able to see the difference until it's all a Janders slurry in there.

The fic I'm currently working on is partially from Anders' perspective, and it takes place early on (fairly soon after the deep roads expedition). The way I always imagined it, at least in the early stages, was that Justice makes himself heard as thoughts. Not like there are two voices in his head arguing with each other, but more like he manifests as doubts, or that sudden urge you get to do something totally unlike you. And he has to constantly repress those doubts and urges, and more or less succeeds except for the few times when he loses control and Justice comes out. As time goes on and he starts to come apart, it becomes harder to repress them and Justice comes out more and more, to the point where he starts having blackouts (I believe he mentions this somewhere in the rivalry path).

So yeah, you're right. It's hard to write it when we don't know exactly how it works. I guess we just have to kind of pick one and go with it!

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

PuppyFlavour wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Not sure how "walking bomb" is remotely sexy.

I know nothing makes my heart flutter more than watching a man explode like an intestine filled waterballoon.

Well, confections maybe, but I have a terrible sweet tooth.

Are we related?

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Come to think of it, I think it would be awesome to have mage sex in the Fade. Like, both Anders and mage Hawke get a hold of a bunch of Lyrium, then enter the Fade together. And then engage in all matter of fun and freaky sexual activity, because in the Fade, all things happen by thought and will. The laws of gravity, physics, and bioloogy don't exist in the Fade, and your sexual adventures would only be limited by will, thought, and imagination.

And Justice would be available for a seriously tripped out full on threesome, instead of just a third party voyuer.

Think of the possibilities.

[Heidenreich]

*squeeks around the corner and curls up behind Surely and berelinde and Yami.*

Can I uh... hang in here again for a while guys? I totally spent my day off watching H.S.O.D. on netflix and missed a visit from Gaider.. and the apparent off-the-deep-endedness of one of the Fenris thread posters.


*trembles*